Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑12 Aug 2021, 03:19
David Price and Kevin Mitchell - Never saw the hype in either. Price in particular was lauded over on here.
Having watched his amateur career with bit of interest I knew he was a car crash waiting to happen, but still got caught up in the hype
Yeah I fell for Pricey despite seeing him get knocked down multiple times by some Welsh lad a 4 nations Amateur match. Pricey came back to win but by god you could tell his chin was something else even then.
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Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑12 Aug 2021, 03:19
David Price and Kevin Mitchell - Never saw the hype in either. Price in particular was lauded over on here.
Having watched his amateur career with bit of interest I knew he was a car crash waiting to happen, but still got caught up in the hype
Yeah I fell for Pricey despite seeing him get knocked down multiple times by some Welsh lad a 4 nations Amateur match. Pricey came back to win but by god you could tell his chin was something else even then.
Yeah I saw that.
Pea heads can’t take a shot especially at heavy
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021, 14:30
by margaret thatcher
a tiny indian also bounced pricey off the canvas 3 times in the commonwealths. tbh surprised fight like that allowed to continue in the ams, but he eventually came back and won by stoppage in the 4th (when am fights had 4 rounds)
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021, 16:32
by JamesPhilips
George Collins as well. He just never looked anything special…. Yet was so heavily hyped and was so often on TV. Big difference between battering young kids two years younger than you as a junior (allegedly) and facing men…. You would’ve thought after Gary Stretch smashed him in a round in his first senior amateur fight (I think) the hype would end. Tony Collins got almost as much hype, a similar fate awaited him….
PS anyone got a link to the Collins Stretch fight? I’m sure I’ve seen it but just can’t locate it online
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021, 16:39
by margaret thatcher
someone posted it here a few months ago, it wasnt the whole fight but a highlight of the ko was shown as part of another fight , maybe eubank - sonny or something?
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021, 16:43
by margaret thatcher
here
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Thanks mate - yes that must’ve been it. Would like to see the whole fight…. I don’t understand why Fwank with all his experience thought Collins would be a star after that. I mean he was flattened….. he does get some wrong, but I feel like Sam Jones should’ve been patronising Warren there when he was bigging up Collins…..”Come on Frank…. George Collins? Come on Frank….. really…. “
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Posted: 12 Aug 2021, 18:53
by coghaugen11
Tony Collins was more talented than George.
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Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 04:14
by My Name Is Earl
a force wrote: ↑11 Aug 2021, 12:22
I always say Bute with anything like this. It’s the most convinced I’ve ever been that the underdog would win & not only win but destroy him when he fought Froch.
I just didn’t see what others saw. I couldn’t believe it when people were putting him at 9 & 10 in P4P lists when his best win was that farcical victory over Andrade when he showed how vulnerable he was.
Don’t get me wrong he still had a good career but he was very well looked after before the Froch fight.
Agree with that. Fine career, but his IBF run was on a par with some of those WBO reign's.
Being left out of the Super Six actually enhanced his status, with him being lined up for the winner
in a "super-fight". A lot of the boxing fraternity had him as the 'real' 168 king.
Couldn't believe it when Froch's team got him over to Nottingham.......and Froch was up to 9/4 in places.
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Thanks mate - yes that must’ve been it. Would like to see the whole fight…. I don’t understand why Fwank with all his experience thought Collins would be a star after that. I mean he was flattened….. he does get some wrong, but I feel like Sam Jones should’ve been patronising Warren there when he was bigging up Collins…..”Come on Frank…. George Collins? Come on Frank….. really…. “
I remember Liverpool's Keith Wallace also lost his last amateur fight before turning pro with Warren. An American by the name of Tony Pruitt stopped Wallace with a body shot but Wallace went on to win the Commonwealth flyweight title as a pro and proved a good fighter. George was also a good fighter but he had a stamina problem and Gary Jacobs outlasted him for the Commonwealth welterweight title in 1989. He was never going to beat Kirkland Laing for the British title.
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Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 05:04
by TheLeprechaun
Anthony Fowler. Hyped up a lot before the Fitzy fight and I went to have a look at some of his fights and couldn't believe he was being hyped up so much. I expect Liam Smith to ko him.
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I remember taking a dislike to Stretch at a boxing show in 1987 at York Hall. Stretch was managed by Mike Barrett at the time and made his way to the ring with a bunch of mates, all of them complete posers. There was no need for it at York Hall and there was no need for it because Stretch was fighting someone who didn't stand a chance. Stretch eventually left Barrett and linked up with F rank Warren. He won the British light-middleweight title from Gary Cooper after 12 hard rounds in 1988, with the same posers at ringside.
Then Warren matched him with an Argentine fighter by the name of Ernesto Sena. Southpaw Sena quickly decided to rough Stretch up and got away with it, so he roughed him up again. Referee Tony Walker did nothing. Sena then cut loose with every foul in the book: low blows, elbows, butting, hitting Stretch after the bell, and so on and so forth. Walker was in a world of his own as this went on for the full 10 rounds. You know, I don't think I've ever enjoyed a fight more.
Re: hyped/highly rated fighters where you were like "da f@ck?"
I remember taking a dislike to Stretch at a boxing show in 1987 at York Hall. Stretch was managed by Mike Barrett at the time and made his way to the ring with a bunch of mates, all of them complete posers. There was no need for it at York Hall and there was no need for it because Stretch was fighting someone who didn't stand a chance. Stretch eventually left Barrett and linked up with F rank Warren. He won the British light-middleweight title from Gary Cooper after 12 hard rounds in 1988, with the same posers at ringside.
Then Warren matched him with an Argentine fighter by the name of Ernesto Sena. Southpaw Sena quickly decided to rough Stretch up and got away with it, so he roughed him up again. Referee Tony Walker did nothing. Sena then cut loose with every foul in the book: low blows, elbows, butting, hitting Stretch after the bell, and so on and so forth. Walker was in a world of his own as this went on for the full 10 rounds. You know, I don't think I've ever enjoyed a fight more.
Re: hyped/highly rated fighters where you were like "da f@ck?"
I remember taking a dislike to Stretch at a boxing show in 1987 at York Hall. Stretch was managed by Mike Barrett at the time and made his way to the ring with a bunch of mates, all of them complete posers. There was no need for it at York Hall and there was no need for it because Stretch was fighting someone who didn't stand a chance. Stretch eventually left Barrett and linked up with F rank Warren. He won the British light-middleweight title from Gary Cooper after 12 hard rounds in 1988, with the same posers at ringside.
Then Warren matched him with an Argentine fighter by the name of Ernesto Sena. Southpaw Sena quickly decided to rough Stretch up and got away with it, so he roughed him up again. Referee Tony Walker did nothing. Sena then cut loose with every foul in the book: low blows, elbows, butting, hitting Stretch after the bell, and so on and so forth. Walker was in a world of his own as this went on for the full 10 rounds. You know, I don't think I've ever enjoyed a fight more.
Lol I bet the referee thought the same as you and allowed it on purpose. In those days flash bastards weren’t really tolerated. Never knew what to think about Stretch as a person or boxer. I bet he got no modelling jobs for a month….
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Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 09:57
by margaret thatcher
another old school thing - no logos on gloves
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Posted: 14 Aug 2021, 05:25
by BigGar
Francisco Bojado.
Hyped as a future superstar. Didn’t quite get there.
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Posted: 14 Aug 2021, 06:44
by coghaugen11
I still can’t believe he went out with Raquel Welch.
When Gary wanted to make a comeback in 1993, John Mugabi punched his lights out in sparring; clean out of the ring. Haha.
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Posted: 14 Aug 2021, 07:23
by Wee Tommy
Broner. Could see the writing on the wall fairly early.
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Posted: 14 Aug 2021, 14:07
by JamesPhilips
coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2021, 06:44
I still can’t believe he went out with Raquel Welch.
When Gary wanted to make a comeback in 1993, John Mugabi punched his lights out in sparring; clean out of the ring. Haha.
Raquel Welch was about 90 by then LOL
I heard Stretch and Mugabi had a bad tempered spar but didn’t hear he got Kod.
I would think a lot of hatred for Stretch is jealousy because he is such a good looking bastard, but there are enough stories around that make him sound like a actual prick…. Does anyone have any different view or experiences of him? (No posts from DH please LOL)
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Posted: 14 Aug 2021, 14:07
by JamesPhilips
BigGar wrote: ↑14 Aug 2021, 05:25
Francisco Bojado.
Hyped as a future superstar. Didn’t quite get there.
Good one
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coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2021, 06:44
I still can’t believe he went out with Raquel Welch.
When Gary wanted to make a comeback in 1993, John Mugabi punched his lights out in sparring; clean out of the ring. Haha.
Raquel Welch was about 90 by then LOL
I heard Stretch and Mugabi had a bad tempered spar but didn’t hear he got Kod.
I would think a lot of hatred for Stretch is jealousy because he is such a good looking bastard, but there are enough stories around that make him sound like a actual prick…. Does anyone have any different view or experiences of him? (No posts from DH please LOL)
There was a rumour he got knocked out by a Welsh rugby league player for pushing to the front of the queue in a St Helens kebab shop, Carlos prob knows the whole story.
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coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2021, 06:44
I still can’t believe he went out with Raquel Welch.
When Gary wanted to make a comeback in 1993, John Mugabi punched his lights out in sparring; clean out of the ring. Haha.
Raquel Welch was about 90 by then LOL
I heard Stretch and Mugabi had a bad tempered spar but didn’t hear he got Kod.
I would think a lot of hatred for Stretch is jealousy because he is such a good looking bastard, but there are enough stories around that make him sound like a actual prick…. Does anyone have any different view or experiences of him? (No posts from DH please LOL)
There was a rumour he got knocked out by a Welsh rugby league player for pushing to the front of the queue in a St Helens kebab shop, Carlos prob knows the whole story.
Lol
Gary Stretch
Pro Record: 23 wins 14 KOs 2 losses 1 by Ko
Street record: 0 wins 2 losses by Ko
Sparring record: 0 wins 1 loss by Ko
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coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2021, 06:44
I still can’t believe he went out with Raquel Welch.
When Gary wanted to make a comeback in 1993, John Mugabi punched his lights out in sparring; clean out of the ring. Haha.
Raquel Welch was about 90 by then LOL
I heard Stretch and Mugabi had a bad tempered spar but didn’t hear he got Kod.
I would think a lot of hatred for Stretch is jealousy because he is such a good looking bastard, but there are enough stories around that make him sound like a actual prick…. Does anyone have any different view or experiences of him? (No posts from DH please LOL)
There was a rumour he got knocked out by a Welsh rugby league player for pushing to the front of the queue in a St Helens kebab shop, Carlos prob knows the whole story.
Sucker punch.
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coghaugen11 wrote: ↑14 Aug 2021, 06:44
I still can’t believe he went out with Raquel Welch.
When Gary wanted to make a comeback in 1993, John Mugabi punched his lights out in sparring; clean out of the ring. Haha.
Raquel Welch was about 90 by then LOL
I heard Stretch and Mugabi had a bad tempered spar but didn’t hear he got Kod.
I would think a lot of hatred for Stretch is jealousy because he is such a good looking bastard, but there are enough stories around that make him sound like a actual prick…. Does anyone have any different view or experiences of him? (No posts from DH please LOL)
There was a rumour he got knocked out by a Welsh rugby league player for pushing to the front of the queue in a St Helens kebab shop, Carlos prob knows the whole story.
Yeah, Stuart Evans chinned him. That was one back for rugby because Colin Jones had chinned Richard Moriarty some years earlier. I've never heard anything good said about Stretch but he was a dynamite light-middleweight, really special. As soon as he moved up to middleweight, he lost something and was out of the game by the age of 24. Pat Barrett was the same when he moved from light-welterweight to welterweight.
Just looking at the clip again when Stretch chins Collins in the NABC's, and Collins turns southpaw in a stupid attempt to taunt southpaw Stretch and gets nailed.
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I heard Stretch and Mugabi had a bad tempered spar but didn’t hear he got Kod.
I would think a lot of hatred for Stretch is jealousy because he is such a good looking bastard, but there are enough stories around that make him sound like a actual prick…. Does anyone have any different view or experiences of him? (No posts from DH please LOL)
There was a rumour he got knocked out by a Welsh rugby league player for pushing to the front of the queue in a St Helens kebab shop, Carlos prob knows the whole story.
Yeah, Stuart Evans chinned him. That was one back for rugby because Colin Jones had chinned Richard Moriarty some years earlier. I've never heard anything good said about Stretch but he was a dynamite light-middleweight, really special. As soon as he moved up to middleweight, he lost something and was out of the game by the age of 24. Pat Barrett was the same when he moved from light-welterweight to welterweight.
Just looking at the clip again when Stretch chins Collins in the NABC's, and Collins turns southpaw in a stupid attempt to taunt southpaw Stretch and gets nailed.
thanks. You have to day even though its 1-1 Rugby vs Boxing,,rugby had a big weight advantage LOL.
Ricky Hatton allegedly got Kod by a bodybuilder in a pub over some argument involving a fruit machine.... Hatton giving the big un..... can anyone confirm?
Weird thing about Collins Stretch fight is that George doesn't even look like George..... Collins was always rellay swarthy with a jet black Errol Flynn tache,, yet his hair is sandy blonde there. Still don't get why an experienced Warren, and the boxing community thought that Collins would be great. Beating up actual kids when you're a grown man (rumoured 2 years older) then getting completely (Gary) Stretched in about d is hardly the stuff of future legends......
Agree with that. Fine career, but his IBF run was on a par with some of those WBO reign's.
