margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Oct 2021, 15:43
minter's stirring in his 5'10 grave about this injustice of a 5'9 listing
Can imagine this guy going all Burke and Hare to find Minters “missing inch”.
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 15:54
by Controversial
All tale of the tapes are made up and most measurements are exaggerated.
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 16:04
by Ambling Alp II
Does that mean we don't have to talk about measurements and weight ever again?
We could then talk about stuff that we used to, like speed, power, jab, left hook, chin, defense, etc. You know, stuff that actually matters.
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 16:09
by margaret thatcher
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑29 Oct 2021, 16:04
Does that mean we don't have to talk about measurements and weight ever again?
We could then talk about stuff that we used to, like speed, power, jab, left hook, chin, defense, etc. You know, stuff that actually matters.
or the ultimate trump card.........the era when the guy fought and whether he is still active
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 17:01
by Caractacus
yeah, I remember reading in Joe Frazier's own autobiography where he gave his reach,
but it was not the one listed on boxrec.
They said there's was the "official" reach.
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 17:38
by margaret thatcher
maybe boxrec wont change it to 5'11.5 because they saw that none of the people who met minter on this forum and others thought he was as tall as youre suggesting. this is several people now, not just one guy, and they all say pretty much the same thing
it's stuff like 'a couple inches under 6 feet', 'im 5'8 and he was barely taller than me' etc
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 17:49
by margaret thatcher
but i agree, there's no big deal about discussing heights, reaches, etc....its all just a bit of interest and discussion on the side
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 29 Oct 2021, 18:19
by margaret thatcher
you're not suggesting he's that tall? how tall do you think he was then?
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑29 Oct 2021, 18:19
you're not suggesting he's that tall? how tall do you think he was then?
Oh yeah?
how tall do you think he was?
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 30 Oct 2021, 00:13
by Controversial
There was a similar discussion about this on another forum, some said he was a lot little taller than 5'8" and others who met him guessed he was between 5'10" to 6'0"
People can be bad at judging heights though
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 05:50
by Controversial
Footage here of Minter running next to Jimmy Cable. Minter looks shorter
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑29 Oct 2021, 16:04
Does that mean we don't have to talk about measurements and weight ever again?
We could then talk about stuff that we used to, like speed, power, jab, left hook, chin, defense, etc. You know, stuff that actually matters.
or the ultimate trump card.........the era when the guy fought and whether he is still active
I don't think it matters when the guys fought. Have seen saying that on this forum for since the early 2000's.
Sometimes a guy from long ago was better than someone recent' sometimes not. Sometimes guys who fought way before my time was better, sometimes not.
I wish everyone was like that. That is the way the Boxing History Forum (formerly Boxers of the Past) used to be.
In the last few years, we now have a lot of people that think the sport began the day you became interested in it. They just come on the Boxing History Forum to shit on the old timers. They really don't care about Boxing History before they became interested in boxing.
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑29 Oct 2021, 16:04
Does that mean we don't have to talk about measurements and weight ever again?
We could then talk about stuff that we used to, like speed, power, jab, left hook, chin, defense, etc. You know, stuff that actually matters.
What's the big deal about striving for accuracy in stats such as height and reach? That's an important part of boxing too. It's nonsense to argue that such issues don't "actually matter."
In cases where Boxrec is egregiously wrong about a fighter's height and weight, patrons of this board should raise the issue. Nothing obnoxious or anal about that.
Nothing wrong about being factually correct. We just need to stop being so obsessed about the tape measure and the scale.
Re: Who here met Alan Minter in person?
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 15:46
by Wee Tommy
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 06:22
agree that's what i'd peg him at
hey joe, would 5'10.5 suffice, or do you still want taller?
What's the big deal about striving for accuracy in stats such as height and reach? That's an important part of boxing too. It's nonsense to argue that such issues don't "actually matter."
In cases where Boxrec is egregiously wrong about a fighter's height and weight, patrons of this board should raise the issue. Nothing obnoxious or anal about that.
Nothing wrong about being factually correct. We just need to stop being so obsessed about the tape measure and the scale.
Arguing about a difference between 5'9" and 5'11" is not "getting obsessed." That's a significant difference in height for a middleweight.
Curiously, why are posting on this thread if you find it to be ridiculous and "obsessive?"
