Jaron Ennis vs. Thomas Dulorme | Showtime - October 30, 2021

Who wins?

Poll ended at 31 Oct 2021, 05:03

Ennis - Decision
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12%
Ennis - T/KO
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88%
DRAW
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Dulorme - T/KO
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No votes
Dulorme - Decision
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No votes
 
Total votes: 17

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Re: Jaron Ennis vs. Thomas Dulorme | Showtime - October 30, 2021

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gregregegg wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 00:20 weird stop, too early for a title fight (even a fake title). Looked early live, but judging by james looking unwell while the ref held him, might of had his eyes roll back. would like a close up slow mo cause the ref saw something i didnt.

Ref was getting in too involved all fight really.
He wasn't right. It was only going one way and bleeding quite badly
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Ok where is Ennis go now? Ugas, Stanionis and Butaev are in some kind of tournament. Anyway Ennis is probably above those guys. Right now, i would favor him against everybody not named Crawford
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he should fight ugas or garcia
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Jaron Ennis looks like a real power puncher, no doubt and this is a great result.

It's so tempting to get caught into the hype of a power puncher early in his career, when he's coming up the ladder, and his opponents are dropping like flies. Adrien Broner, Sergey Kovalev, and even Peter Quillin are recent examples of guys who looked like Ennis does now. But then it all went "sideways" and the whole thing collapsed like a pyramid ponzy scheme or a phony deck of cards trick.

If you look closely, defensively, Ennis is not all there. He takes shots to give his and at the top level that strategy doesn't usually work out. He is there to be hit, doesn't move his head. Dulorme was able to land some solid shots even though he was KO'd. Sergey Lipinets in Ennis' last fight landed many flush shots.

It's one thing to take a shot from Dulorme or Lipinets but its entirely another when it comes to someone who also has explosive KO power.

It's early but I see holes in the defensive side of things for Ennis, and against a good boxer puncher that will be front and center.
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Cent0089 wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 02:27 Ok where is Ennis go now? Ugas, Stanionis and Butaev are in some kind of tournament. Anyway Ennis is probably above those guys. Right now, i would favor him against everybody not named Crawford
He said after the fight he is the #3 contender to one of Spence's belts and called him out.
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Ennis looks ready for the bigger challenges. Match him against Danny Garcia.
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Wow. Who knew?

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well he should hook up with al then
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I'm hoping for Crawford versus Ennis this time next year. Between now and then, I'd love to see Ennis fight twice. would Clayton be a step up for Ennis ?
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goose 5 wrote: 31 Oct 2021, 20:08 I'm hoping for Crawford versus Ennis this time next year. Between now and then, I'd love to see Ennis fight twice. would Clayton be a step up for Ennis ?
Im okay with Ennis vs Clayton :box: Anyway, im wondering if Spence would rather take Crawford - Porter winner or Ennis
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Re: Jaron Ennis vs. Thomas Dulorme | Showtime - October 30, 2021

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the punch ennis took flush from dulorme between the knockdowns could've easily meant game over for him vs a harder puncher.

completely unnecessary to square off carelessly like that.

done the job but still got things to learn (naturally).

crawford would still take him apart without much problem atm.
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Re: Jaron Ennis vs. Thomas Dulorme | Showtime - October 30, 2021

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Dulorme's Team To File Protest With NSAC Over Ennis' Punch That Caused First Knockdown

Thomas Dulorme has a mark partially on the back of his head that he and his team consider evidence that Jaron Ennis hit him with an illegal punch early in the first round Saturday night.

Dulorme’s team plans to file a protest on his behalf with the Nevada State Athletic Commission on Monday because Dulorme is certain Ennis’ right hand landed behind his head, not to the side of it, approximately a minute into the first round of a scheduled 10-round welterweight fight Dulorme lost by first-round knockout. Ennis’ downward right hand was ruled a legal punch by referee Mike Ortega after that shot sent Dulorme down to his gloves and knees a minute into the action at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino’s Michelob ULTRA Arena.

Ortega determined that Ennis’ chopping punch drilled Dulorme, who was bent over, more to the side of his head. Had Ortega concluded that punch hit Dulorme on the back of his head, it would’ve been considered an unintentional foul and Dulorme would’ve been given a maximum of five minutes to recover and continue.

A disoriented Dulorme still answered Ortega’s count at seven, but he never really regained his equilibrium. Ennis sensed his 11th first-round knockout was near and pounced on Dulorme.

Though Dulorme drilled Ennis with a right hand that briefly backed him up, Ennis responded soon thereafter with a right hook and then a straight left hand that dumped Dulorme flat on his back barely halfway into the first round. Dulorme attempted to beat Ortega’s count again, but Ortega waved an end to their fight as Dulorme got to his feet just as Ortega was about to count to 10.

Philadelphia’s Ennis (28-0, 26 KOs, 1 NC) was declared a first-round knockout winner just 1:49 into a co-feature Showtime televised.

The 31-year-old Dulorme (25-6-1, 16 KOs) lost by knockout or technical knockout for the third time in the Puerto Rican veteran’s 13-year pro career. This was by far the earliest he was stopped, though, as Terence Crawford beat him by sixth-round TKO in April 2015 and Luis Carlos Abregu defeated him by seventh-round TKO in October 2012.
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tbf i did think when i first saw it that it caught the back of the head, though dulorme was ducking low

no chance it's overturned , i want danny garcia for boots next

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Ennis unintentionally landed a rabbit punch to a ducking Dulorme, which essentially ended the fight, because the Puerto Rican’s senses were completely scrambled for the remainder of the contest.

In a perfect world, I would have liked the ref to ruled-out the knockdown and given the Puerto Rican ample time to recover.

Anyway, I’m a fan of Jaron Ennis’ and I am pleased he got away with his victory. I think he would have won the fight regardless the rabbit punch.

I don’t think the fight should be declared a no contest. And I don’t think it will be.

Any fighter that ducks low, to the point their eyeballs are looking directly at the canvas, whilst in close quarters, during a punch exchange, are running the risk of being on the receiving end of a rabbit punch.

Fighters should defend themselves at all times. And they should also look at their opponents at all times, because it’s difficult to defend against punches you can’t see being thrown.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 12:52 Ennis unintentionally landed a rabbit punch to a ducking Dulorme, which essentially ended the fight, because the Puerto Rican’s senses were completely scrambled for the remainder of the contest.

In a perfect world, I would have liked the ref to ruled-out the knockdown and given the Puerto Rican ample time to recover.

Anyway, I’m a fan of Jaron Ennis’ and I am pleased he got away with his victory. I think he would have won the fight regardless the rabbit punch.

I don’t think the fight should be declared a no contest. And I don’t think it will be.

Any fighter that ducks low, to the point their eyeballs are looking directly at the canvas, whilst in close quarters, during a punch exchange, are running the risk of being on the receiving end of a rabbit punch.

Fighters should defend themselves at all times. And they should also look at their opponents at all times, because it’s difficult to defend against punches you can’t see being thrown.
There is no such thing as a perfect world with regard to fouls, if one guy is favored and liked better. Didn't you watch the Wilder/Fury fights? Lots of rabbit punches.
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Re: Jaron Ennis vs. Thomas Dulorme | Showtime - October 30, 2021

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ya wilder landed a lot of rabbit punches didnt he
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ennis looks real quality great jab carrys power, yea he got hit good he took he is going get hit again in furture , mikey garcia next i reckon any one in the top 10
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2021, 11:26 tbf i did think when i first saw it that it caught the back of the head, though dulorme was ducking low

no chance it's overturned , i want danny garcia for boots next

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that punch reminded me of this punch.

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ya very similar :TU:
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Re: Jaron Ennis vs. Thomas Dulorme | Showtime - October 30, 2021

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Dulorme Sends Letter To NSAC, Aims To Overturn KO Loss To Jaron Ennis

Welterweight contender Thomas Dulorme (25-6-1, 16 KOs) has officially submitted a letter to the Nevada State Athletic Commission, disputing the result of his bout against Jaron Ennis (28-0, 26 KOs), in which he claims he was hit with an illegal rabbit punch to the back of the head.

The fight took place at Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Saturday, October 30, 2021.

Dulorme is making a request for the Nevada State Athletic Commission to overturn the knockout loss to a no decision.

Dulorme argues that the assigned in-ring referee, Mike Ortiz, instructed the fighters that a punch to the back of an opponent’s head would constitute an illegal blow subject to penalty, as codified under:

NAC 467.675 Acts constituting fouls in boxing.

The following acts constitute fouls in boxing:

12. Using a rabbit punch or otherwise striking an opponent on the back of the head, the base of the skull or the back of the neck.


Dulorme alleges that at the one-minute mark of the first round, Ennis threw a right hook that landed to the back of his head. Dulorme claims the punch left him dazed, unbalanced, and physically incapable of adequately defending himself. It didn't take long before Dulorme was knocked down a second time and could not beat the count of ten.

“I feel I wasn’t given the allocated time to recover by the referee, after getting hit from what was clearly an illegal rabbit punch to the back on my head, forcing me to fight at a disadvantage,” said Dulorme.

“Jaron Ennis is a great fighter and I’m not taking anything away from his talent, I’m just disputing that I should have been given the allotted time to regain my composure. I’m hoping that Nevada State Athletic Commission will honor my appeal based on their rules.”
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So I guess Wilder should get a lawyer too?
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big d got hit the side of the head, pretty sure that one messed his ear up

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Bandog wrote: 03 Nov 2021, 20:10There is no such thing as a perfect world with regard to fouls, if one guy is favored and liked better. Didn't you watch the Wilder/Fury fights? Lots of rabbit punches.
Turning your head away from your opponent, either to the side or bent at the waist facing the floor, prevents you from seeing your opponents’ blows.

A fighter can’t defend themselves against punches they can’t see being thrown.

Any fighter that intentionally decides to look away from their opponent during a fight (especially in the midst of an exchange at close quarters), has to be willing to accept the potential consequences of their actions, because they’re supposed to protect themselves at all times.

Ennis threw the overhand right a fraction of a second before Dulorme ducked and faced the floor - the punch didn’t change trajectory in mid-flight.

Wilder made the same amateurish mistake Dulorme did against Tyson Fury.
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try looking straight at your opponent while turning your head to avoid/ride a punch or duck one.

you are talking rubbish.
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adislav123 wrote: 16 Nov 2021, 17:32 try looking straight at your opponent while turning your head to avoid/ride a punch or duck one.

you are talking rubbish.
Have you boxed?

Do you usually try avoiding shots without even watching them being thrown?

That’s never worked for me, but I guess you have some sort of Spidey Sense.
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