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Fury got up before the referee counted to 10; that's all he needed to do.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 03:40

Rocky- wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 03:13 There's no coming back from this.

ref never even gave him a chance to beat the count, like he gave to fury. pretty unfair, wilder deserves another go with a fair ref.

and 'wilder always has a shot with that power', and 'ive just got a feeling' he wins the 4th, so you cant rule him out.

Maybe they should schedule 10 fights? Then after Wilder loses the first nine we can have a tenth just to see if all the previous results were flukes?

They could fight 100 times and Wilder would never win.

The only way a 4th fight would have made sense is if Wilder won.

Then the records would be 1-1-1 and it would makes sense but now Wiler is 0-2-1 losing by KO x2. He would need to win a few fights and there not to be any viable challengers for a 4th fight to happen. By the time that happens Wilder could be approaching 40 so, probably will never happen.

Fury just has too much of an unfair weight advantage. If the 4th fight takes place in zero gravity within the confines of Jeff Bezos' penis shaped rocket then I might be tempted by the PPV.

The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 09:57 Fury just has too much of an unfair weight advantage. If the 4th fight takes place in zero gravity within the confines of Jeff Bezos' penis shaped rocket then I might be tempted by the PPV.

I don't think the weight advantage was even a top 3 problem for Wilder in this fight. He can't box, that's by far #1. He has no cardio. Totally drops defense when the fight starts getting tough. Wilder just simply isn't a good enough boxer to beat Fury, that's it. Weight has little to do with it.

571103 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 10:08

The Gratest wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 09:57 Fury just has too much of an unfair weight advantage. If the 4th fight takes place in zero gravity within the confines of Jeff Bezos' penis shaped rocket then I might be tempted by the PPV.

I don't think the weight advantage was even a top 3 problem for Wilder in this fight. He can't box, that's by far #1. He has no cardio. Totally drops defense when the fight starts getting tough. Wilder just simply isn't a good enough boxer to beat Fury, that's it. Weight has little to do with it.

Fury's much more comfortable with that additional weight though. Against Wallin he was not as physically strong as usual, and he uses his weight to great effect when up close with mauling and pushing down on opponents. This would have had a major factor in sapping Wilder's strength and tiring him out.
The penis rocket is the only way, although I do realise it would play havoc with any knockdowns.

The issue in this one is the illegal ear punch and holding. If fury has to box wilder would win easy

If Wilder beats a Ruiz, Parker, Joyce, Whyte level fighter first, sure, why not, other than his health.

But without a big win first? No.

Loftgroov wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 09:05

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 03:40

Rocky- wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 03:13 There's no coming back from this.

ref never even gave him a chance to beat the count, like he gave to fury. pretty unfair, wilder deserves another go with a fair ref.

and 'wilder always has a shot with that power', and 'ive just got a feeling' he wins the 4th, so you cant rule him out.

Maybe they should schedule 10 fights? Then after Wilder loses the first nine we can have a tenth just to see if all the previous results were flukes?

Wilder didn't exactly know how to hold and/or counter there. I do think there are advantages to starting boxing when you're about 10. Not in his muscle memory.

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:03 The issue in this one is the illegal ear punch and holding. If fury has to box wilder would win easy

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:03 The issue in this one is the illegal ear punch and holding. If fury has to box wilder would win easy

That was a epic fight but does not need to be done again.
Unless Wilder can climb back up the ranks after three straight loses an d earn it.
But at his age and temperament that isn't bloody likely.

It is absolutely pointless to ever have a fourth fight unless Wilder cleans up the rest of the division which I do not see happening. Some men will always have your number no matter what you do and Fury is always going to beat Wilder.

It would probably sell based on how exciting last night's fight was. Wilder took too much punishment and, in my view, should never fight Fury again.

pointless nonsensical idea

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:03 The issue in this one is the illegal ear punch and holding. If fury has to box wilder would win easy

This is the dumbest thing I've seen on here.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:06 If Wilder beats a Ruiz, Parker, Joyce, Whyte level fighter first, sure, why not, other than his health.

But without a big win first? No.

ya, a tune up first, sharpen his game up, develop some new skills to deliver his power .

hed only been working with scott for 1 fight, imagine if he gets more time, could be a shocker for fury

571103 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 17:15

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:03 The issue in this one is the illegal ear punch and holding. If fury has to box wilder would win easy

This is the dumbest thing I've seen on here.

Was 5771102 already taken?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 17:17

Tony1244 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:06 If Wilder beats a Ruiz, Parker, Joyce, Whyte level fighter first, sure, why not, other than his health.

But without a big win first? No.

ya, a tune up first, sharpen his game up, develop some new skills to deliver his power .

hed only been working with scott for 1 fight, imagine if he gets more time, could be a shocker for fury

I know you're busy high fiving yourself celebrating Fury's victory and it was a great victory, but they both obviously could hurt each other, and it being game of inches, a Wilder win isn't out of the question.

I don't recommend a tuneup for skill sharpening, a 4th fight simply isn't justified without another big win for Wilder. Having said all that, Wilder should retire for health reasons. If it was a video game, beat a Whyte first.

Tony1244 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 18:32

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 17:17

Tony1244 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 11:06 If Wilder beats a Ruiz, Parker, Joyce, Whyte level fighter first, sure, why not, other than his health.

But without a big win first? No.

ya, a tune up first, sharpen his game up, develop some new skills to deliver his power .

hed only been working with scott for 1 fight, imagine if he gets more time, could be a shocker for fury

a Wilder win isn't out of the question.

a wilder win isnt out of the question, youre right about that

thats what makes a 4th fight so interesting. wilder can ko anyone with 1 shot. fury is so unreliable. this is heavyweight boxing.

the 3rd was great, so lets do a 4th

i wonder what odds we could get on wilder delivering the big ko

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 18:33

Tony1244 wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 18:32

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 17:17

ya, a tune up first, sharpen his game up, develop some new skills to deliver his power .

hed only been working with scott for 1 fight, imagine if he gets more time, could be a shocker for fury

a Wilder win isn't out of the question.

a wilder win isnt out of the question, youre right about that

thats what makes a 4th fight so interesting. wilder can ko anyone with 1 shot

the 3rd was great, so lets do a 4th

i wonder what odds we could get on wilder delivering the big ko

I would NOT say Wilder could KO anyone with one shot. He could not have KO'D a prime Ali, Holmes or Jimmy Young. But he could KO Fury.

well, i didnt think we were talking about ali, holmes, etc lol

a Wilder ko win isnt out of the question. third fight was great.

so why not a 4th? a very dangerous task for fury

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Oct 2021, 18:33
a wilder win isnt out of the question, youre right about that

thats what makes a 4th fight so interesting. wilder can ko anyone with 1 shot

the 3rd was great, so lets do a 4th

i wonder what odds we could get on wilder delivering the big ko

Hell yeah. Let's do it, but only if both sign on to a 5th fight deal if Fury wins the 4th match. If Wilder wins then we don't do a 5th. Simple.

exactly, if wilder wins the 4th, he wins the series, no rematch for fury. it's only fair after having to fight through long counts, bad juju, crooked refs, spy trainers,white privilege, heavy costumes, and loaded gloves