imo an unrealistic fight, not gonna happen next for babic, i dont even consider it when suggesting opponents
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 05:59
by margaret thatcher
now looking at it from the continue the ko run perspective:
simon kean - big giant guy with nearly 100 percent kos himself, london olympian. but made of total glass
umut camkiran - 17-0 (16) turk, tough looking, but in reality basically a bouncer
browne of course - still seems to have a name and we know he's pretty much done, but did ko chag
stiverne - former champ, but been past it for years and took a bad bad beating last time
wallish - basically the german molina, though without reaching the level molina did years ago
iago kiladze - a well used punch bag
alexander flores - 6'5 american, 18-3, but a glassman vs anyone decent. fought ortiz and parker
pawel kolodz - big pole, handsome, 35-1 but he only fought 1 notable opponent (denis lebedev at cruiser) and was ko'd
onoriode ehwarieme - 6'7 nigerian, 18-2 (17). looks the part but falls apart
ustinov - giant with still decent looking 36-5 record , but way past it and never that good to start
if they want a brit, then kash ali
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 06:14
by mickey1975
Herg will knock him out.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 06:15
by margaret thatcher
i agree
how lucrative is hrg-babic in croatia? because it seems to me like if they make hrg-babic, they need to see it as the cashout for the promotion /hype they've done of babic. is it worth it, and is it worth it now ? i think babic still has several more fights in him as the winning promoted a side, that's why i dont think it's realistic to consider for his next one
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 06:21
by margaret thatcher
i should add that i actually quite enjoy the cabbage, just that molina is one of these types of fighters i cant stand. even vs wardley when he had a better showing, as soon as it heats up he goes down. then as soon as he's counted out he gets up and is laughing and smiling and then does a prayer with wardley.
simply no bottle, and no, these are not huge shots he's getting nailed with
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 07:44
by stujones
Is Chisora too big a step up? I mean assuming he loses too Parker. Not thinking the loser automatically, just thinking it will be hard to recycle Del Boy again as a fringe contender, so he might aswell be a big pay day for Babic
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 09:32
by jameswilson
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 06:21
i should add that i actually quite enjoy the cabbage, just that molina is one of these types of fighters i cant stand. even vs wardley when he had a better showing, as soon as it heats up he goes down. then as soon as he's counted out he gets up and is laughing and smiling and then does a prayer with wardley.
simply no bottle, and no, these are not huge shots he's getting nailed with
I think I said in the group at the time I didn’t even think the last two knockdowns were from punches landed.
I hope they don’t look to make a Lucas Browne fight as that will be the same result.
I’m pretty sure tho that unless Babic moves down to cruiserweight he will very soon come unstuck, the matchmaking has been unbelievably selective.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 10:05
by forcefraser
Sling Babic in with that aussie ex league player Paul Gallen. Would be a good scrap
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 13:31
by KiwiRider
forcefraser wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 10:05
Sling Babic in with that aussie ex league player Paul Gallen. Would be a good scrap
Gallen was pretty faded when he had his last fight. Lost to a 4-0.
The cabbage would turn him into coleslaw
forcefraser wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 10:05
Sling Babic in with that aussie ex league player Paul Gallen. Would be a good scrap
Gallen was pretty faded when he had his last fight. Lost to a 4-0.
The cabbage would turn him into coleslaw
It wasn’t that gallen was faded, it’s that huni is actualy a world class prospect,
Gallen was 39 and slower than I recall seeing him. Benefit of the doubt - an off night- reality though is probably age. He trained for it, no doubt work was done in the gym.
But mate, he was slow. Huni is an exciting prospect, and I'm keeping an eye on him because they are a bit rare down here. But it was Gallen showing age against a younger guy pressing the action - exactly like what Babic would do, and Gallen taking way too many shots for my liking. Gallen is now 40.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 13:31
Gallen was pretty faded when he had his last fight. Lost to a 4-0.
The cabbage would turn him into coleslaw
It wasn’t that gallen was faded, it’s that huni is actualy a world class prospect,
Gallen was 39 and slower than I recall seeing him. Benefit of the doubt - an off night- reality though is probably age. He trained for it, no doubt work was done in the gym.
But mate, he was slow. Huni is an exciting prospect, and I'm keeping an eye on him because they are a bit rare down here. But it was Gallen showing age against a younger guy pressing the action - exactly like what Babic would do, and Gallen taking way too many shots for my liking. Gallen is now 40.
I think it was galens best showing ever, did well to last. He looked slow because instead of being in with trash he was on with one of the fastest heavyweights in the division.
Huni would beat the shit out of babic, even at 21 and 4-0. Babic is getting his head rocked back by molina punching in slow motion, huni would pop his head back so often he would spend more time looking at the lights that huni if they fought.
It wasn’t that gallen was faded, it’s that huni is actualy a world class prospect,
Gallen was 39 and slower than I recall seeing him. Benefit of the doubt - an off night- reality though is probably age. He trained for it, no doubt work was done in the gym.
But mate, he was slow. Huni is an exciting prospect, and I'm keeping an eye on him because they are a bit rare down here. But it was Gallen showing age against a younger guy pressing the action - exactly like what Babic would do, and Gallen taking way too many shots for my liking. Gallen is now 40.
I think it was galens best showing ever, did well to last. He looked slow because instead of being in with trash he was on with one of the fastest heavyweights in the division.
Huni would beat the shit out of babic, even at 21 and 4-0. Babic is getting his head rocked back by molina punching in slow motion, huni would pop his head back so often he would spend more time looking at the lights that huni if they fought.
Ok
I'm just wrapped someone else is following Huni
Top prospect.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 16:13
by morm
Give him Zhang or Mc Kean
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 16:53
by JamesPhilips
Now I know he's hardly beaten a murderers row of boxers, but is Babic that poor? The way people speak about him you'd think he was Andrew Flintoff Could he actually surprise anyone and do well?
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 31 Oct 2021, 20:27
by Grilling Machine
If he waited for Briedis to retire and fought at his natural weight, sure!
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 01 Nov 2021, 03:38
by Gnome
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 16:53
Now I know he's hardly beaten a murderers row of boxers, but is Babic that poor? The way people speak about him you'd think he was Andrew Flintoff Could he actually surprise anyone and do well?
The full punches he is taking from domestic level fighters, over and over again, indicate that he's going to be battered once he faces an opponent who a) is motivated b) has half decent power and c) has a modicum of defence.
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 16:53
Now I know he's hardly beaten a murderers row of boxers, but is Babic that poor? The way people speak about him you'd think he was Andrew Flintoff Could he actually surprise anyone and do well?
The full punches he is taking from domestic level fighters, over and over again, indicate that he's going to be battered once he faces an opponent who a) is motivated b) has half decent power and c) has a modicum of defence.
Yeah, it's hard to pick Pubic against any real top fighter.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 01 Nov 2021, 04:17
by Dioufy
Shocking performance by Molina. Hardly a surprise though so for Hearn to say that’s the last time he’s working with him is a joke. He knew exactly what he was getting.
Has Eddie Hearn’a rep ever been so low among British boxing fans? Not like he would give a shit.
Game. Changed.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 01 Nov 2021, 04:36
by fizzjambo
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 16:53
Now I know he's hardly beaten a murderers row of boxers, but is Babic that poor? The way people speak about him you'd think he was Andrew Flintoff Could he actually surprise anyone and do well?
Too small, no defence and only has one gear that we’ve seen. He’s great entertainment but he’s getting sparked in the not so distant future and once he’s been figured out he’s done
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 16:53
Now I know he's hardly beaten a murderers row of boxers, but is Babic that poor? The way people speak about him you'd think he was Andrew Flintoff Could he actually surprise anyone and do well?
Too small, no defence and only has one gear that we’ve seen. He’s great entertainment but he’s getting sparked in the not so distant future and once he’s been figured out he’s done
If Price was still active, I think he would be the man to stop the Babic hype train.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 01 Nov 2021, 05:01
by gregregegg
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 05:59
now looking at it from the continue the ko run perspective:
simon kean - big giant guy with nearly 100 percent kos himself, london olympian. but made of total glass
umut camkiran - 17-0 (16) turk, tough looking, but in reality basically a bouncer
browne of course - still seems to have a name and we know he's pretty much done, but did ko chag
stiverne - former champ, but been past it for years and took a bad bad beating last time
wallish - basically the german molina, though without reaching the level molina did years ago
iago kiladze - a well used punch bag
alexander flores - 6'5 american, 18-3, but a glassman vs anyone decent. fought ortiz and parker
pawel kolodz - big pole, handsome, 35-1 but he only fought 1 notable opponent (denis lebedev at cruiser) and was ko'd
onoriode ehwarieme - 6'7 nigerian, 18-2 (17). looks the part but falls apart
ustinov - giant with still decent looking 36-5 record , but way past it and never that good to start
if they want a brit, then kash ali
If he fought that entire list next year i wouldent be mad. But if your going to fight bad, you have to fight often, so if its just 4 off that list its pathetic.
Nick web is a glaring ommision to the KO party. Agron Smakici another croation he could batter. Lovejoy is a freebee.
Re: Alen Babic v Eric Molina
Posted: 01 Nov 2021, 06:56
by 553771
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 05:59
now looking at it from the continue the ko run perspective:
simon kean - big giant guy with nearly 100 percent kos himself, london olympian. but made of total glass
umut camkiran - 17-0 (16) turk, tough looking, but in reality basically a bouncer
browne of course - still seems to have a name and we know he's pretty much done, but did ko chag
stiverne - former champ, but been past it for years and took a bad bad beating last time
wallish - basically the german molina, though without reaching the level molina did years ago
iago kiladze - a well used punch bag
alexander flores - 6'5 american, 18-3, but a glassman vs anyone decent. fought ortiz and parker
pawel kolodz - big pole, handsome, 35-1 but he only fought 1 notable opponent (denis lebedev at cruiser) and was ko'd
onoriode ehwarieme - 6'7 nigerian, 18-2 (17). looks the part but falls apart
ustinov - giant with still decent looking 36-5 record , but way past it and never that good to start
if they want a brit, then kash ali
all of these matchups seem a step back, at least rating-wise, from molina. dont you think he gonna go for a strong top 50 like dazn is suggesting (hrgovic, zhang, efe or bakole). i get that u all think he gonna be matched up to punching bags to maintain 100% ko but he rejected lovejoy who wanted to step in after browne pulled out, and said he wants well rated opponents. dillian, eddie speculating on dave allen fight, what do u think bout that?
