What's Next For Deontay Wilder?

[Bandog]

they were both welterweights for years of crossover, Floyd would have got slaughtered by Williams at 147 or 154. Easy easy work for Paul.

You originally said that a Mayweather-Williams fight could have taken place “ late 2009 2010”.

Why did you say that? Was it a lie, whilst desperately hoping I wouldn’t fact-check your claims?

And if this was only a mistake on your part, then please provide an alternate date when Mayweather could have fought Williams?

If you can’t answer this very simple question, then do you at least have enough integrity to admit the fact you’ve lied?

Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight. He moved up because Haymon wouldn't give him the Floyd fight after beating Margarito, another fight Floyd ducked for over a year. Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.

Since we're back off topic, I believe Floyd retired after fighting Oscar D and Hatton in 2007. Williams moved up in 2008, which was a year Floyd was "retired". PW lost to someone (Cintron?)the year before he moved up, but avenged it. Floyd came back in 09 to fight JMM, who was #2pfp at the time. I was a big fan of PW, and at 6'1" would have given Floyd some trouble, for sure.

[Bandog]

Back ON topic, Lackeos made some good points, (although I think it's premature to call Fury a top 10 atg just yet)

Wilder would be competitive and beat most heavys. His KO's draw people in, even if his boxing skills are subpar.

Ones I think could beat him other than Fury? Possibly Usyk, Joshua, and Jarred Anderson. My opinion.

[bjornborgbook]

You originally said that a Mayweather-Williams fight could have taken place “ late 2009 2010”.

Why did you say that? Was it a lie, whilst desperately hoping I wouldn’t fact-check your claims?

And if this was only a mistake on your part, then please provide an alternate date when Mayweather could have fought Williams?

If you can’t answer this very simple question, then do you at least have enough integrity to admit the fact you’ve lied?

Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight. He moved up because Haymon wouldn't give him the Floyd fight after beating Margarito, another fight Floyd ducked for over a year. Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.

Since we're back off topic, I believe Floyd retired after fighting Oscar D and Hatton in 2007. Williams moved up in 2008, which was a year Floyd was "retired". PW lost to someone (Cintron?)the year before he moved up, but avenged it. Floyd came back in 09 to fight JMM, who was #2pfp at the time. I was a big fan of PW, and at 6'1" would have given Floyd some trouble, for sure.

Floyd fake retired to duck who he needed to duck and try to build up demand to see him box again. Totally fraudulent fake retirement for business and ducking reasons. Williams would have either knocked out Floyd or beat him 120-108 on all three cards. Easy work for Punisher. Sadly Paull was misused by Haymon as a pawn when he had the talent to be a dominant superstar. He lost to Quintana because it was a boring dud meaningless fight he couldn't get up for. Great fighters can't get up for mediocre opponents - Duran vs Laing, Lewis vs McCall, Tyson vs Buster, etc. It had to be depressing for Paul to know Haymon was only ever going to use him as a pawn to protect Floyd. Sad when great fighters get misused and mismanaged like that and never get the realy big fights they deserve - Beterbiev, Vivian Harris, Angel Vazquez, Margarito, Crawford...

[KiwiRider]

Just to get back on topic, what is next for Wilder is retirement, another child to another baby momma.
Property settlement, child support, selling off his bling for 1/4 what he paid for it, then a heralded return to the ring at 39 years old for a one off match on ppv where he does his shoulder in R1, then gets knocked over (not out) by Andy Ruiz, who at 400 pounds finds his ankles just aren't up to it.

Internet people are weird.

What do you mean?
That sort of thing happens all the time. Holyfield? Tyson? Broner? Heck, even David Haye pretty much did that prior to his impending divorce.

[H8Usernames]

Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight. He moved up because Haymon wouldn't give him the Floyd fight after beating Margarito, another fight Floyd ducked for over a year. Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.

Since we're back off topic, I believe Floyd retired after fighting Oscar D and Hatton in 2007. Williams moved up in 2008, which was a year Floyd was "retired". PW lost to someone (Cintron?)the year before he moved up, but avenged it. Floyd came back in 09 to fight JMM, who was #2pfp at the time. I was a big fan of PW, and at 6'1" would have given Floyd some trouble, for sure.

Floyd fake retired to duck who he needed to duck and try to build up demand to see him box again. Totally fraudulent fake retirement for business and ducking reasons. Williams would have either knocked out Floyd or beat him 120-108 on all three cards. Easy work for Punisher. Sadly Paull was misused by Haymon as a pawn when he had the talent to be a dominant superstar. He lost to Quintana because it was a boring dud meaningless fight he couldn't get up for. Great fighters can't get up for mediocre opponents - Duran vs Laing, Lewis vs McCall, Tyson vs Buster, etc. It had to be depressing for Paul to know Haymon was only ever going to use him as a pawn to protect Floyd. Sad when great fighters get misused and mismanaged like that and never get the realy big fights they deserve - Beterbiev, Vivian Harris, Angel Vazquez, Margarito, Crawford...

Vivian Harris? Margarita? I want some of the stuff that you are smoking.

[JamesPhilips]

Back ON topic, Lackeos made some good points, (although I think it's premature to call Fury a top 10 atg just yet)

Wilder would be competitive and beat most heavys. His KO's draw people in, even if his boxing skills are subpar.

Ones I think could beat him other than Fury? Possibly Usyk, Joshua, and Jarred Anderson. My opinion.

And he'd have a chance with all of them. I think he'd ko a low confidence and gunshy AJ

[margaret thatcher]

he's going on 37 , hasnt won in like 3 years, and just got brutally ktfo, i think his odds vs anyone are shrinking and coming back should be done sooner than later

let's see how confident he is himself next time out

[Bard of Boxrec]

he's going on 37 , hasnt won in like 3 years, and just got brutally ktfo, i think his odds vs anyone are shrinking and coming back should be done sooner than later

let's see how confident he is himself next time out

I think he beats everyone in the division outside fury, Usyk and maaaaybe AJ

[margaret thatcher]

he should get back soon and finally win again then

curious to see if he's gunshy or less confident himself after getting ko'd twice and not having won in 3 years, the last one was brutal too

[oogiebe]

he should get back soon and finally win again then

curious to see if he's not gunshy or less confident himself after getting ko'd twice, the last one was brutal too

He still beats most anyone not named Fury, but I think he's done.

[margaret thatcher]

he probably does.........but the point he's at in his career, turning to late 30s, back to back stoppage losses, etc.......are some of the signs when a guy starts to go downhill and lose when you'd expect him to beat those guys just shortly before. i am interested in his comeback

[bjornborgbook]

Since we're back off topic, I believe Floyd retired after fighting Oscar D and Hatton in 2007. Williams moved up in 2008, which was a year Floyd was "retired". PW lost to someone (Cintron?)the year before he moved up, but avenged it. Floyd came back in 09 to fight JMM, who was #2pfp at the time. I was a big fan of PW, and at 6'1" would have given Floyd some trouble, for sure.

Floyd fake retired to duck who he needed to duck and try to build up demand to see him box again. Totally fraudulent fake retirement for business and ducking reasons. Williams would have either knocked out Floyd or beat him 120-108 on all three cards. Easy work for Punisher. Sadly Paull was misused by Haymon as a pawn when he had the talent to be a dominant superstar. He lost to Quintana because it was a boring dud meaningless fight he couldn't get up for. Great fighters can't get up for mediocre opponents - Duran vs Laing, Lewis vs McCall, Tyson vs Buster, etc. It had to be depressing for Paul to know Haymon was only ever going to use him as a pawn to protect Floyd. Sad when great fighters get misused and mismanaged like that and never get the realy big fights they deserve - Beterbiev, Vivian Harris, Angel Vazquez, Margarito, Crawford...

Vivian Harris? Margarita? I want some of the stuff that you are smoking.

Vivian Harris was the first one to expose Floyd's cowardice and ducking/handpicking. Floyd turned down a wba title shot vs Harris to fight a hired patsy named Henry Bruseles and HBO bought that garbage.

https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/103933

[Jason Calara]

DW can still fight and can still win.
Vs andy ruiz, Anthony Joshua, even with usyk. Stil interesting if DW can still place that big punch.

[Bandog]

If anyone thinks Wilder is shot from being stopped by Fury, anyone with a bit of sense can say the same about Fury.

How will Fury respond after all of the heavy shots from Wilder? Fury has never been a big puncher. Wilder always has been. Fury beat Wilder because of his ability to take a punch, and Wilder being a sub par boxer. We'll have to see how that has affected Fury. Wilder wasn't disciplined enough to sustain a body attack. Hopefully Whyte is. It's not surprising Fury didn't want to fight Usyk. Usyk would school Fury.

[margaret thatcher]

well, there's also wilder being older than fury and being ko'd back to back, which fury wasnt. we are in 2022 but wilder hasnt won a fight since 2019.

but who knows, maybe wilder took something from fury too. that's why it'd be nice if fury got his ass in the ring vs a good opponent next and acted like a true champ who stays busy vs solid contenders

[Enlightened-One]

In the last five years (since the Gerald Washington bout), how many times has Deontay Wilder actually won a round on the judges' scorecards without scoring the knockdown?

Deontay Wilder will be 36½ years of age and also celebrating the 2½ year anniversary of his most recent victory when his suspension ends on the 8th April.

He’s overly-reliant on speed as the main source of his power, which is one of the first physical attributes that declines with age.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has also suffered five knockdowns and two stoppage losses, coupled with being on the receiving end of prolonged beatings, during his last two outings.

Therefore, I think it’s safe to say that Wilder will be given a confidence-building tune-up for his next appearance, which will be followed-up with a bout involving one of his big-name fellow PBC stablemates.

I strongly-suspect the Fury beatings will result in an inevitable dip in Wilder’s performance levels from this point onwards.

I think the new version of Wilder would probably still be good enough to beat many top-ten world-rated heavyweights, but I seriously doubt he’ll win another world title fight ever again.

There’s also a small possibility he may end up retiring, because the winner of Fury-Whyte will probably end up engaging in two fights against the eventual victor of Usyk-AJ, which means he’ll be frozen out of the heavyweight title picture until 2024.

And by that time, he’ll be pushing forty years of age and probably would have suffered another loss by then (unless his handlers protect him by cherry-picking Efe Ajagba-esque type journeymen).

[Perkin Warbeck]

Deontay Wilder is Still Unsure About His Future in The Sport

https://www.BS.com/deontay-wil ... rt--164117

He's still considering retirement, not sure whether he wants to continue boxing. Seems like Tyson Fury may have broken his will to fight.

[Enlightened-One]

Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight.

Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.

I’m still waiting for you to provide a timescale to justify your beliefs about when the Mayweather-Williams bout should have been made?

You’re still claiming that Mayweather "ducked" Williams, even though you clearly don’t know anything about the timelines of both fighters.

[Enlightened-One]

In the last five years (since the Gerald Washington bout), how many times has Deontay Wilder actually won a round on the judges' scorecards without scoring the knockdown?

Deontay Wilder will be 36½ years of age and also celebrating the 2½ year anniversary of his most recent victory when his suspension ends on the 8th April.

He’s overly-reliant on speed as the main source of his power, which is one of the first physical attributes that declines with age.

‘The Bronze Bomber’ has also suffered five knockdowns and two stoppage losses, coupled with being on the receiving end of prolonged beatings, during his last two outings.

Therefore, I think it’s safe to say that Wilder will be given a confidence-building tune-up for his next appearance, which will be followed-up with a bout involving one of his big-name fellow PBC stablemates.

I strongly-suspect the Fury beatings will result in an inevitable dip in Wilder’s performance levels from this point onwards.

I think the new version of Wilder would probably still be good enough to beat many top-ten world-rated heavyweights, but I seriously doubt he’ll win another world title fight ever again.

There’s also a small possibility he may end up retiring, because the winner of Fury-Whyte will probably end up engaging in two fights against the eventual victor of Usyk-AJ, which means he’ll be frozen out of the heavyweight title picture until 2024.

And by that time, he’ll be pushing forty years of age and probably would have suffered another loss by then (unless his handlers protect him by cherry-picking Efe Ajagba-esque type journeymen).

[KiwiRider]

Deontay Wilder is Still Unsure About His Future in The Sport

https://www.BS.com/deontay-wilder-still ... rt--164117

He's still considering retirement, not sure whether he wants to continue boxing. Seems like Tyson Fury may have broken his will to fight.

Either that or having 50+ million in the bank is plenty for now.
I don't expect him to ever fight again. After earning all that money for the trilogy, how motivated is he going to be for a million dollars a fight?
Maybe if he blows it all, and that is possible, but not for a few years.
Which is why threads like this are pointless.

[bjornborgbook]

Big deal, I forget the exact years Williams was a welterweight.

Floyd and Williams were both at welter at the same time and that's when Williams should have gotten his shot at Floyd. But haymon and floyd knew Williams would destroy Floyd.

I’m still waiting for you to provide a timescale to justify your beliefs about when the Mayweather-Williams bout should have been made?

You’re still claiming that Mayweather "ducked" Williams, even though you clearly don’t know anything about the timelines of both fighters.

when they were both at 147 which was a considerable period. surely williams would have come down for the payday from 154 but of course haymon would have made him dive or play soft to the cash cow.

[margaret thatcher]

lol did you guys see this part - wilder is going psychedelic

During a recent interview, Wilder revealed that he was going to use psychedelics in deciding whether or not to move forward with his in-ring career.

Now the fighter, 36, has revealed he is set to turn to Ayahuasca - a South American psychedelic brew - to help him decide his next steps.

"I'm thinking about doing Ayahuasca. That's gonna be my decision making process… Boxing's put a bad taste because of what it's done to me. It's dangerous, politics, cheating… I still have love for the sport though," Wilder told the Byron Scott Podcast.

[Bandog]

Imagine for a moment, being 36, a multi- millionaire, considering retirement?

I wish I had those hard decisions 30 yrs ago.

[Lackeos]

There’s also a small possibility he may end up retiring, because the winner of Fury-Whyte will probably end up engaging in two fights against the eventual victor of Usyk-AJ, which means he’ll be frozen out of the heavyweight title picture until 2024.

All he needs is to fight the loser of Usyk - AJ for a bunch of money.

[Bandog]

There’s also a small possibility he may end up retiring, because the winner of Fury-Whyte will probably end up engaging in two fights against the eventual victor of Usyk-AJ, which means he’ll be frozen out of the heavyweight title picture until 2024.

All he needs is to fight the loser of Usyk - AJ for a bunch of money.

True. Wilder has a legit chance against either, regardless of skill differences.