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Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 19 Mar 2022, 16:24
by bjornborgbook
caldo2025 wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 12:07
bjornborgbook wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 08:52
caldo2025 wrote: 18 Mar 2022, 20:45

Pretty dopey posts man. Don’t you understand what fighters go through after getting knocked out? Wilder was having serious issues upstairs after the first Fury TKO. This time, he got cleanly knocked the hell out. There’s a lot that goes into getting that fighter in a healthier mindset enough to get back in the gym never mind another super fight like this would be against AJ. Lastly, after considering all of the stuff above, Wilder is now a very rich man already. He could retire comfortably right now for life without working another minute in his whole life. His children are covered for life. His grand children are set. It’s not like offering, let’s say, you this sum of money. Of course we’d take the money. It’s different when the money isn’t so much of what tells the story when it comes to matchmaking.
None of his fights made big money. Don't forget haymon and finkel took their cuts so did Uncle Sam.
His net worth is between 30-40m dude. He didn’t make that jank fighting all of the other taxi drivers on his resume. Wilder is living well from here on out whether he fights again or not.
Hope you're right and factored in child support and baby momma payments which are probably maximum amounts.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 19 Mar 2022, 17:34
by Counter-puncher
Caldo, you’re talking to a dude who says GGG threw the Canelo fights. As in, he went easy deliberately. He’s a fkin nut, just so you’re warned

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 12:59
by Bandog
Is Joyce fighting Joshua now or will it still be Usyk does anyone know?

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 13:30
by Enlightened-One
Bandog wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 12:59 Is Joyce fighting Joshua now or will it still be Usyk does anyone know?
Eddie Hearn expects the Joshua-Usyk rematch to happen in June, because it is believed the Ukrainian government are expected to allow Oleksandr and Vasyl Lomachenko to resume their boxing careers.

Hearn's claims mirror the sentiments expressed last weekend by Bob Arum.

That said, the situation changes on almost a daily basis, which means I wouldn't stake your life savings on Hearn and Arum's claims coming to fruition.

But as it stands, I'd expect Hearn to schedule the Joshua-Usyk rematch in June, whilst also having a backup plan in place, potentially with someone like a Joe Joyce or a Filip Hrgovic calibre fighter appearing on the undercard (willing and physically able to take the AJ bout at late notice).

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16
by bjornborgbook
Counter-puncher wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 17:34 Caldo, you’re talking to a dude who says GGG threw the Canelo fights. As in, he went easy deliberately. He’s a fkin nut, just so you’re warned
I'm not saying it as fact but for my eyes and senses it looked like GGG played soft for Canelo for the monster paydays. And all the evidence and elements suggest Canelo and Oscar used their draw power as leverage to squeeze GGG to agree to ALL their terms. If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope. Oscar revealed in the lawsuit with Canelo's old promoter that he projected Canelo and himself to earn $400M each over the next ten years. So they had the wealth to buy off and squeeze GGG. Losing to GGG would have cut that $400M each way way way way down.

You disappoint me with your ignorant sanctimonius stupidity and refusal to grasp reality.

Mayweather and Haymon did the same thing for over a decade. If you want the biggest payday of your career you have to play soft with me or take the dive. Anyone who refused was ducked. That's why every one of Floyd's fake fights looked like the same damned boring soft sparring session. Floyd got forced by Les Moonves to fight Pac and they rigged the judges, just get to the final bell and take no risks and the judges would give the decision to Phloyd.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 06:08
by Counter-puncher
bjornborgbook wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16
Counter-puncher wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 17:34 Caldo, you’re talking to a dude who says GGG threw the Canelo fights. As in, he went easy deliberately. He’s a fkin nut, just so you’re warned
I'm not saying it as fact but for my eyes and senses it looked like GGG played soft for Canelo for the monster paydays. And all the evidence and elements suggest Canelo and Oscar used their draw power as leverage to squeeze GGG to agree to ALL their terms. If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope.
but if you believe GGG actually did it, then you think he is a conman (conning fans who bet on him thinking that the fight and he were on the level) and a weakling (for letting Canelo and Oscar dupe him like that) and a fraud (claims to be a real fighter, isn't) and a dupe and an idiot (he didn't even get the third fight that you say he threw two other fights, just to get that third fight, so he threw two fights for nothing, according to you)

so it's either (1) I am a sanctimonious dope and
(2) GGG is a fraud, weakling, idiot, dupe, and a fake-ass non-fighter who doesn't believe in giving a full effort in the ring and prostituted his ability for money and still got conned




ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

(3) you're a fvcking imbecile


yeah, I'm good with (3), thanks, and so is pretty much everyone else around here I'd imagine

:wave:

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 12:35
by bjornborgbook
Counter-puncher wrote: 22 Mar 2022, 06:08
bjornborgbook wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16
Counter-puncher wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 17:34 Caldo, you’re talking to a dude who says GGG threw the Canelo fights. As in, he went easy deliberately. He’s a fkin nut, just so you’re warned
I'm not saying it as fact but for my eyes and senses it looked like GGG played soft for Canelo for the monster paydays. And all the evidence and elements suggest Canelo and Oscar used their draw power as leverage to squeeze GGG to agree to ALL their terms. If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope.
but if you believe GGG actually did it, then you think he is a conman (conning fans who bet on him thinking that the fight and he were on the level) and a weakling (for letting Canelo and Oscar dupe him like that) and a fraud (claims to be a real fighter, isn't) and a dupe and an idiot (he didn't even get the third fight that you say he threw two other fights, just to get that third fight, so he threw two fights for nothing, according to you)

so it's either (1) I am a sanctimonious dope and
(2) GGG is a fraud, weakling, idiot, dupe, and a fake-ass non-fighter who doesn't believe in giving a full effort in the ring and prostituted his ability for money and still got conned




ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

(3) you're a fvcking imbecile


yeah, I'm good with (3), thanks, and so is pretty much everyone else around here I'd imagine

:wave:
GGG may be the best MW ever. But the money was protecting Canelo and the only way to get the big prize was to play soft for the Mexican fraud. That's how it works. That's what Leonard did to Hagler, that's what Floyd did for over a decade, that's the nature of the corruption side of the business.

GGG slaughtered Canelo is sparring so bad in LA that Canelo and Oscar knew it would happen again and that's why they had to duck and dodge and play money games to stall GGG from the career defining victory. Boxing isn't real anymore, Floyd even said this on fight hype on video when he was depressed for ducking Pacquiao and losing HBO support HBO dumped Floyd but Haymon manipulated Espinoza and showtime to buy fraudweather's at for six fights $150m guaranteed (which they used to buy off every opponent except Pac).

You are a surface reader with no capacity to critically think or perceive the corruption of boxing. Keep being a sheeple you're good at it.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 12:54
by Counter-puncher
just to confirm, you are saying:

(2) GGG is a fraud, weakling, idiot, dupe, and a fake-ass non-fighter who doesn't believe in giving a full effort in the ring and prostituted his ability for money and still got conned


give me a yes or no on that, if you could please? that GGG is a fraud and a dupe and an idiot, and a conman who cons the sporting public.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 24 Mar 2022, 00:26
by Wales
bjornborgbook wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16

If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope. Oscar revealed in the lawsuit with Canelo's old promoter that he projected Canelo and himself to earn $400M each over the next ten years. So they had the wealth to buy off and squeeze GGG.
So GGG was paid and squeezed to lose the fight? Surely if that’s the case he’d take a dive and not win the fight in most peoples eyes

one judge, Adelaide Byrd, scored the fight 118-110 to Canelo yet you think GGG is the one that’s been paid off and thrown the right?

There is corruption in boxing - but Oscar couldn’t pay off and squeeze a prostitute that had photos of him in fish net rights and high heels; the. He couldn’t pay off and squeeze a hooker that released a story about him having sex with her and putting a kitchen utensil up his arse.

So believe me he isn’t going to pay off and squeeze GGG and K2 into losing

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 08:19
by bjornborgbook
Wales wrote: 24 Mar 2022, 00:26
bjornborgbook wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16

If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope. Oscar revealed in the lawsuit with Canelo's old promoter that he projected Canelo and himself to earn $400M each over the next ten years. So they had the wealth to buy off and squeeze GGG.
So GGG was paid and squeezed to lose the fight? Surely if that’s the case he’d take a dive and not win the fight in most peoples eyes

one judge, Adelaide Byrd, scored the fight 118-110 to Canelo yet you think GGG is the one that’s been paid off and thrown the right?

There is corruption in boxing - but Oscar couldn’t pay off and squeeze a prostitute that had photos of him in fish net rights and high heels; the. He couldn’t pay off and squeeze a hooker that released a story about him having sex with her and putting a kitchen utensil up his arse.

So believe me he isn’t going to pay off and squeeze GGG and K2 into losing
Maybe Oscar was set up by enemy forces with a Russian honey pot. And the purpose of the set up was to manipulate Oscar to do what the dark forces wanted - play soft for Floyd (stop using the effective jab in the second half of the fight), rig Canelo to play soft for Floyd.

Adelaide Byrd is a stooge. They use judges to fabricate a fake card to show the public the scoring they want. So the illusion is the public sees one pro judge (though corrupt) saw Canelo (fake) winning clearly. Which adds to the legacy of the fight as remembered by history - that one judge (though corrupt) saw Canelo winning easy so history will remember that.

The word on the curb was the people who set up Oscar had him blackmailed even worse, however Oscar followed orders and this incident was never publicly revealed.

They even try blackmail set ups in tennis, they tried to compromise Djokovic... https://www.the-sun.com/sport/tennis/25 ... blackmail/

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 14:19
by caldo2025
bjornborgbook wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16
Counter-puncher wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 17:34 Caldo, you’re talking to a dude who says GGG threw the Canelo fights. As in, he went easy deliberately. He’s a fkin nut, just so you’re warned
I'm not saying it as fact but for my eyes and senses it looked like GGG played soft for Canelo for the monster paydays. And all the evidence and elements suggest Canelo and Oscar used their draw power as leverage to squeeze GGG to agree to ALL their terms. If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope. Oscar revealed in the lawsuit with Canelo's old promoter that he projected Canelo and himself to earn $400M each over the next ten years. So they had the wealth to buy off and squeeze GGG. Losing to GGG would have cut that $400M each way way way way down.

You disappoint me with your ignorant sanctimonius stupidity and refusal to grasp reality.

Mayweather and Haymon did the same thing for over a decade. If you want the biggest payday of your career you have to play soft with me or take the dive. Anyone who refused was ducked. That's why every one of Floyd's fake fights looked like the same damned boring soft sparring session. Floyd got forced by Les Moonves to fight Pac and they rigged the judges, just get to the final bell and take no risks and the judges would give the decision to Phloyd.
Buddy, no one is good enough to step inside the ring at this level and “play soft” in order to somehow create more money in the future. That’s just not possible. Now, if you claim that GGG took a bribe to lose the 2nd fight by decision then I think it would be a better stance but even that’s a ridiculous claim.

Look, Boxing is and has always been crooked as hell. I’m sure that we all would be surprised by the garbage sling behind the scenes of these huge fights. But there’s way too much danger inside those ropes for any boxer to go in and play around in the ways you’ve suggested. Not possible.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 14:56
by bjornborgbook
caldo2025 wrote: 25 Mar 2022, 14:19
bjornborgbook wrote: 21 Mar 2022, 21:16
Counter-puncher wrote: 19 Mar 2022, 17:34 Caldo, you’re talking to a dude who says GGG threw the Canelo fights. As in, he went easy deliberately. He’s a fkin nut, just so you’re warned
I'm not saying it as fact but for my eyes and senses it looked like GGG played soft for Canelo for the monster paydays. And all the evidence and elements suggest Canelo and Oscar used their draw power as leverage to squeeze GGG to agree to ALL their terms. If you think Canelo and Oscar would not do that you're a sanctimonious dope. Oscar revealed in the lawsuit with Canelo's old promoter that he projected Canelo and himself to earn $400M each over the next ten years. So they had the wealth to buy off and squeeze GGG. Losing to GGG would have cut that $400M each way way way way down.

You disappoint me with your ignorant sanctimonius stupidity and refusal to grasp reality.

Mayweather and Haymon did the same thing for over a decade. If you want the biggest payday of your career you have to play soft with me or take the dive. Anyone who refused was ducked. That's why every one of Floyd's fake fights looked like the same damned boring soft sparring session. Floyd got forced by Les Moonves to fight Pac and they rigged the judges, just get to the final bell and take no risks and the judges would give the decision to Phloyd.
Buddy, no one is good enough to step inside the ring at this level and “play soft” in order to somehow create more money in the future. That’s just not possible. Now, if you claim that GGG took a bribe to lose the 2nd fight by decision then I think it would be a better stance but even that’s a ridiculous claim.

Look, Boxing is and has always been crooked as hell. I’m sure that we all would be surprised by the garbage sling behind the scenes of these huge fights. But there’s way too much danger inside those ropes for any boxer to go in and play around in the ways you’ve suggested. Not possible.
there are real fights - and then there are fake fights. Compare Wlad Klitschko vs AJ to Usyk vs AJ.

mayweather and haymon rigged everyone to play soft for floyd for a decade. floyd never would dare go near a "real fight" until he got forced and ultimatumed by Les Mooves who had enough of floyd's hustle. Then floyd haymon rigged the judges.

Fake fights happen too often. Money fighters have the resources to buy off opponents. Canelo's doing it now. Dovalev, Plant, Saunders took the money and ran.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 19:45
by Bandog
If we passed the hat, would you take the money and run bjornborgbook? Stick to tennis.

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 23:29
by oogiebe
Bandog wrote: 25 Mar 2022, 19:45 If we passed the hat, would you take the money and run bjornborgbook? Stick to tennis.
:lol: put me in for a twenty! :OhYes:

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 08:18
by Bandog
oogiebe wrote: 25 Mar 2022, 23:29
Bandog wrote: 25 Mar 2022, 19:45 If we passed the hat, would you take the money and run bjornborgbook? Stick to tennis.
:lol: put me in for a twenty! :OhYes:
I'll get a big 10 gallon hat. :lol:

Re: Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 08:20
by Bandog
BTW, Bjorn Borg retired when still in his 20's. Was he paid off? Was there corruption, or were their possibly other tennis players he was ducking? :OhYes: