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Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 02:06
by KiwiRider
The Gratest wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:04
I've got Henry ahead on points here due to his vastly superior all round knowledge on the subject. He's cutting a swathe through EO's habitual cherry picking tactic.
I'm just happy they came together.
Just goes to show, there is someone out there for everyone
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 02:11
by The Gratest
KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:06
The Gratest wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:04
I've got Henry ahead on points here due to his vastly superior all round knowledge on the subject. He's cutting a swathe through EO's habitual cherry picking tactic.
I'm just happy they came together.
Just goes to show, there is someone out there for everyone
T'was always meant to be.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 02:12
by margaret thatcher
the dudes who enjoy long posts are the real winners here
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 02:17
by KiwiRider
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:12
the dudes who enjoy long posts are the real winners here
Ya.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 02:53
by Enlightened-One
The Gratest wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:04
I've got Henry ahead on points here due to his vastly superior all round knowledge on the subject. He's cutting a swathe through EO's habitual cherry picking tactic.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right!
Caught me out!
Providing a list of every single world heavyweight title bout since 1993 (all 168 of them) and also detailing the average weights of all the competitors is a blatant cherry-picking tactic!
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 03:13
by The Gratest
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:53
The Gratest wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:04
I've got Henry ahead on points here due to his vastly superior all round knowledge on the subject. He's cutting a swathe through EO's habitual cherry picking tactic.
Yeah, you’re absolutely right!
Caught me out!
Providing a list of every single world heavyweight title bout since 1993 (all 168 of them) and also detailing the average weights of all the competitors is a blatant cherry-picking tactic!
Point off for crying.
Henry now further ahead.
Box!
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 05:29
by Counter-puncher
he's appealing to the ref, we all know a fighter is losing in his own mind when he starts doing that
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 10:06
by Tony1244
200 pounders have beaten 250 pounders consistently throughout boxing history.
As I've said about a number of things, it's tied for the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 10:50
by Ambling Alp II
KiwiRider wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:06
The Gratest wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 02:04
I've got Henry ahead on points here due to his vastly superior all round knowledge on the subject. He's cutting a swathe through EO's habitual cherry picking tactic.
I'm just happy they came together.
Just goes to show, there is someone out there for everyone
Two of the greats. Don't count out the cherrypicker just yet though.
Been waiting more than 15 years for HH and elmersalsa to go at it. The problem may be that they usually agree.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 12:01
by H8Usernames
190 cruiserweight is good. 225 or whatever it is bridgerweight is bad since even Tyson Fury can make that weight.
Bridgerweight needs to be at 210. Then we are talking.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 31 Mar 2022, 19:09
by tiny_acres
H8Usernames wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 12:01
190 cruiserweight is good. 225 or whatever it is bridgerweight is bad since even Tyson Fury can make that weight.
Bridgerweight needs to be at 210. Then we are talking.
Which leg is Tyson Fury supposed to cut off to make 225????
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 00:29
by H8Usernames
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 19:09
H8Usernames wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 12:01
190 cruiserweight is good. 225 or whatever it is bridgerweight is bad since even Tyson Fury can make that weight.
Bridgerweight needs to be at 210. Then we are talking.
Which leg is Tyson Fury supposed to cut off to make 225????
At 225 Fury would be at the upper range of a healthy BMI and close to being overweight.
Fury has in the past weighed in as low as 245 without ever really trying to make weight. The leap frlm 245 to 225 isn't really that great.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 01:43
by gregregegg
H8Usernames wrote: ↑01 Apr 2022, 00:29
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 19:09
H8Usernames wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 12:01
190 cruiserweight is good. 225 or whatever it is bridgerweight is bad since even Tyson Fury can make that weight.
Bridgerweight needs to be at 210. Then we are talking.
Which leg is Tyson Fury supposed to cut off to make 225????
At 225 Fury would be at the upper range of a healthy BMI and close to being overweight.
Fury has in the past weighed in as low as 245 without ever really trying to make weight. The leap frlm 245 to 225 isn't really that great.
You know BMIs are a joke for anyone with any mucel right? That said fury could make it, but he wouldent be prime. the version of fury that makes 225 gets bullied by 265lb fury.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 04:52
by Counter-puncher
Fury @ 225lbs
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 08:05
by Enlightened-One
Tyson Fury's former amateur coach, Steve Egan, claimed that the 14-year-old version of 'The Gypsy King' was 200lbs and far too big for his age to box in the juniors. He couldn't get him any fights until he'd turned sixteen.
So, you’ve got to assume that the 16-year-old iteration of Tyson Fury weighed more than 225lbs.
'The Gypsy King' made his professional debut shortly after his 20th birthday and entered the ring weighing a whopping 261lbs.
If Tyson Fury somehow managed to make 225lbs, his physique would resemble Dhalsim from the Street Fighter video game:
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 08:51
by tiny_acres
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Apr 2022, 01:43
H8Usernames wrote: ↑01 Apr 2022, 00:29
tiny_acres wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 19:09
Which leg is Tyson Fury supposed to cut off to make 225????
At 225 Fury would be at the upper range of a healthy BMI and close to being overweight.
Fury has in the past weighed in as low as 245 without ever really trying to make weight. The leap frlm 245 to 225 isn't really that great.
You know BMIs are a joke for anyone with any mucel right? That said fury could make it, but he wouldent be prime. the version of fury that makes 225 gets bullied by 265lb fury.
X2
Fury would not be fury at 225
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 08:52
by tiny_acres
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Apr 2022, 08:05
Tyson Fury's former amateur coach, Steve Egan, claimed that the 14-year-old version of 'The Gypsy King' was 200lbs and far too big for his age to box in the juniors. He couldn't get him any fights until he'd turned sixteen.
So, you’ve got to assume that the 16-year-old iteration of Tyson Fury weighed more than 225lbs.
'The Gypsy King' made his professional debut shortly after his 20th birthday and entered the ring weighing a whopping 261lbs.
If Tyson Fury somehow managed to make 225lbs, his physique would resemble Dhalsim from the Street Fighter video game:
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 17:17
by Counter-puncher
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Apr 2022, 08:05
Tyson Fury's former amateur coach, Steve Egan, claimed that the 14-year-old version of 'The Gypsy King' was 200lbs and far too big for his age to box in the juniors. He couldn't get him any fights until he'd turned sixteen.
So, you’ve got to assume that the 16-year-old iteration of Tyson Fury weighed more than 225lbs.
'The Gypsy King' made his professional debut shortly after his 20th birthday and entered the ring weighing a whopping 261lbs.
If Tyson Fury somehow managed to make 225lbs, his physique would resemble Dhalsim from the Street Fighter video game:
nice image-mining, EO
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 17:18
by Counter-puncher
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Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 17:21
by margaret thatcher
fury at 247....still pretty much no definition and hardly emaciated, im sure at one point he couldve gotten to around 240 and then cut to 225 if he really wanted to, but wtf would the point be. plus it would take a hell of a lot more dedication.
Re: Your thoughts on the WBC Bridgerweight experiment?
Posted: 01 Apr 2022, 19:01
by Enlightened-One
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Apr 2022, 17:21
fury at 247....still pretty much no definition and hardly emaciated, im sure at one point he couldve gotten to around 240 and then cut to 225 if he really wanted to, but wtf would the point be. plus it would take a hell of a lot more dedication.
Tyson Fury’s comments about his allegedly incorrect “official” weight for the Klitschko bout:
“The man’s a cheater, the man’s an out and out cheater, he’s a jealous person and he’s resentful.
“When I went to fight Klitschko, it was my first time stepping up and I was a ten-to-one underdog…
“The win meant so much to him that he was gonna do anything to get it, I mean anything and even when it means cheating.
“Even the week of the fight, they messed around with the weigh-in scales to start with.
“They said I weighed 17st 9lbs – I’ve not been 17st 9lbs since I was about ten years old.
“It was another mind game because you think you’ve lost a stone in weight.
“Even my uncle Peter said, ‘I thought you’ve been eating? Have you not eaten your food?’
“I said, ‘I’m 18st 4lbs.’ We went back, on my scales – 18st 4lbs. So that was one little cheat.
“I said to him across the weigh-in, ‘You’ve rigged the scales, while you’re at it you can take them heels out of your shoes as well.
“He was as tall as me. Wladimir is 6ft 5ins, I don’t look up at a 6ft 5ins man.
“I said, ‘You’ve got stilts in your shoes, like platforms.’ So that was two things.”
