BoxRec

punchy1 wrote: ↑27 Apr 2022, 11:53 Yes, the answer is how ???
The fee is small enough for small claims court.... However, say you are in Mexico, how the heck you going to sue someone who is based in England ?
The mechanism is not there, never mind the language barrier...

punchy1 wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 23:10 Let's pose a question that is a real possibility.
If a fighter was hurt boxing pro for a commission that is duly recognized by that country's Federal Government, and the commission in question has had bouts counted in Boxrec as well as Fight Fax in the past, and currently has FIght Fax counting their bouts, and a boxer gets knocked out unconscious....

But boxrec is notified of the bout and result, But refuses to list it,

And the injured fighter, because as far as the commissions know, hasn't fought and hasn't gotten hurt, engages in another bout in another location for a different but also duly recognized commission
And gets seriously hurt or killed .....

Where does the liability lie ?

It certainly is the job of the commissions to enforce commission rules, such as not having more than 2 fights usually within 7 days, and not allowing a boxer who was knocked out/ tko'ed to fight until after a 60 or 90 day suspension and / or brain scan/ exam....

But if the "Official record keeper (BOXREC) the commission relies on, does not do their job, knowing full well such a bout happened, but refuses to report it, and thus the loss and injury...... is boxrec liable for the boxer's injury from claiming to be an "Official record keeper" , having knowledge of such a fight, but willfully refusing to report / record it ?

Please let me know your opinion ...

tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 May 2022, 14:32

punchy1 wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 23:10 Let's pose a question that is a real possibility.
If a fighter was hurt boxing pro for a commission that is duly recognized by that country's Federal Government, and the commission in question has had bouts counted in Boxrec as well as Fight Fax in the past, and currently has FIght Fax counting their bouts, and a boxer gets knocked out unconscious....

But boxrec is notified of the bout and result, But refuses to list it,

And the injured fighter, because as far as the commissions know, hasn't fought and hasn't gotten hurt, engages in another bout in another location for a different but also duly recognized commission
And gets seriously hurt or killed .....

Where does the liability lie ?

It certainly is the job of the commissions to enforce commission rules, such as not having more than 2 fights usually within 7 days, and not allowing a boxer who was knocked out/ tko'ed to fight until after a 60 or 90 day suspension and / or brain scan/ exam....

But if the "Official record keeper (BOXREC) the commission relies on, does not do their job, knowing full well such a bout happened, but refuses to report it, and thus the loss and injury...... is boxrec liable for the boxer's injury from claiming to be an "Official record keeper" , having knowledge of such a fight, but willfully refusing to report / record it ?

Please let me know your opinion ...

Fight fax now called pro boxing records is the official record keeping organization of the WBC wbo and IBf and the association of boxing commissions

When did boxrec become the official record keeper?

Bandog wrote: ↑06 May 2022, 18:37

tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 May 2022, 14:32

punchy1 wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 23:10 Let's pose a question that is a real possibility.
If a fighter was hurt boxing pro for a commission that is duly recognized by that country's Federal Government, and the commission in question has had bouts counted in Boxrec as well as Fight Fax in the past, and currently has FIght Fax counting their bouts, and a boxer gets knocked out unconscious....

But boxrec is notified of the bout and result, But refuses to list it,

And the injured fighter, because as far as the commissions know, hasn't fought and hasn't gotten hurt, engages in another bout in another location for a different but also duly recognized commission
And gets seriously hurt or killed .....

Where does the liability lie ?

It certainly is the job of the commissions to enforce commission rules, such as not having more than 2 fights usually within 7 days, and not allowing a boxer who was knocked out/ tko'ed to fight until after a 60 or 90 day suspension and / or brain scan/ exam....

But if the "Official record keeper (BOXREC) the commission relies on, does not do their job, knowing full well such a bout happened, but refuses to report it, and thus the loss and injury...... is boxrec liable for the boxer's injury from claiming to be an "Official record keeper" , having knowledge of such a fight, but willfully refusing to report / record it ?

Please let me know your opinion ...

Fight fax now called pro boxing records is the official record keeping organization of the WBC wbo and IBf and the association of boxing commissions

When did boxrec become the official record keeper?

You can basically sue anyone for anything today it seems. Smh

punchy1 wrote: ↑06 May 2022, 20:36 it's civics 101 time.
Boxing commissions exits to prevent just the sort of abuse that boxrec's negligence can cause with regards to injured boxers fighting.
Why have rules such as no boxer can fight if they are medically suspended,/ unfit/ within 1 week of a past bout, if you are not held accountable for enforcing them, and the onus is on the injured boxer to assume all risk for his/ her actions ??
Sound good in practice, but let me ask you who pays if that boxer who should not have been boxing gets hurt/ dies/ etc ?
The promoter, and more accurately, the insurance company that ensures the bout. If all due diligence and laws have been followed.. otherwise the insurance company will try like hell to shift responsibility onto anything and anyone else.. the commission who cleared the fight. They in turn, will do an investigation, and if that boxer should have been on medical suspension for a bout that should have been recorded as such, but willfully wasn't, then guess what ?
Basically, whoever didn't do their job /didn't fulfill their stated responsibilities, ie.. record official bouts, such as boxrec, will face liability exposure.
The injured boxer/ the family of the dead/ injured boxer who should have faced a medical suspension and not be allowed to fight, can and will say "no one stopped me from fighting"