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Re: Muhammad Ali-stripped 1976 : Your thoughts ?

Posted: 29 Jun 2024, 17:11
by Caractacus

Re: Muhammad Ali-stripped 1976 : Your thoughts ?

Posted: 06 Jul 2024, 08:20
by pound per pound
HomicideHenry wrote: 09 Jul 2022, 05:01
Ambling Alp II wrote: 08 Jul 2022, 10:41 So Bob Fitzsimmons supposedly lost to a wrestler before he was even the champion. Not exactly an extensive list.
It's one example of many. Mind you the first (of many exhibitions) Fitzsimmons vs Roeber occured in January 1897. The last occurred March 13th. When was Corbett? March 17th.

Almost all of the early heavyweight champions had exhibitions with wrestlers or martial artists and almost always lost--- and usually there would be a return match under boxing rules that way the boxer saved face a bit.

John L. Sullivan did a match against William Muldoon, the man who trained him for Jake Kilrain, and he lost that match pretty quickly. That was in August 1889. Kilrain was in July 1889.

Jack Johnson had a few matches against wrestlers and martial artists while in Europe. He won some, and lost some. One man he lost to was Jimmy Esson, and here is some information on that man:

http://www.wrestle.co.uk/swcp3.htm

Thanks. I did not know the boxing vs. wrestling matches went all the way back to John L Sullivan. Those matches were real back then,

Ali vs the Japanese guy was a horrible show. It damaged boxing and Ali's legs. Ali forgot to grease the WBC I guess and it nearly cost him his title. Although the match was ruled a draw, boxing suffered a TKO.

Re: Muhammad Ali-stripped 1976 : Your thoughts ?

Posted: 20 Jul 2024, 15:31
by Caractacus
Ali agreed to it, because he wanted to be the real life "Six Million Dollar Man".

Re: Muhammad Ali-stripped 1976 : Your thoughts ?

Posted: 01 Jul 2026, 11:58
by Caractacus
did Muhammad Ali really believe that he was going to be paid "Six Million Dollars" for a farce fight going in ?

Re: Muhammad Ali-stripped 1976 : Your thoughts ?

Posted: 01 Jul 2026, 13:28
by Caractacus

Re: Muhammad Ali-stripped 1976 : Your thoughts ?

Posted: 03 Jul 2026, 16:50
by Nile4000
Caractacus wrote: 01 Jul 2026, 11:58 did Muhammad Ali really believe that he was going to be paid "Six Million Dollars" for a farce fight going in ?
How much was he actually paid?