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Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 06 Mar 2023, 23:37
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 22:07 seth mitchell was the footballer...........padded record yes but there have been ones a lot more padded

donnell holmes was another padded boi, though not ko'd early in his first step up
THAT"S THE GUY! Seth Mitchell.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 06 Mar 2023, 23:39
by margaret thatcher
poor seth, built like a tank but had a chin of the finest china. legs would go silly from even glancing shots

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 06 Mar 2023, 23:42
by oogiebe
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 23:39 poor seth had the finest of china
He got rocked by Witherspoon I think before getting pummeled by the great jonothan banks. That rematch was one of the biggest fixes I've ever seen.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 06 Mar 2023, 23:43
by margaret thatcher
agree, banks was obviously trying not to finish him and would completely back off when seth was hurt, really bizarre fight

unfofrtunetly for mitchell, arreola doesnt play that way!

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 07:04
by Cent0089
Lackeos wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 21:09
Cent0089 wrote: 06 Mar 2023, 15:43 There was a US HW in 90s or 00s with lot of fixed fights who was demolished in 1 or 2 rounds when he stepped against rated guy. Not remembering his name.
That's vague to the max. I'm gonna say Tye Fields, when he fought Monte Barrett in 2008. But that might be a few years later than what you're describing.
Tye Fields was real man, give me time and i would try to find the boxer i think of :box:

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 07:08
by Cent0089

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18
by keithmoonhangover
And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 07:41
by Theoson
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
Hmmm. I suppose Moorer and his management team thought he had a good record on paper of 27-0 but not someone who was genuinely going to slaughter Moorer in the way Tyson, Bowe or Lewis would. have

Suffering a close decision points loss against Moorer would have done Bean too much damage and again the management team of someone like Holyfield could spin it that Bean's performance against Moorer showed him to be a genuine contender

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 07:45
by Ruthless-RKO
Theoson wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:41
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
Hmmm. I suppose Moorer and his management team thought he had a good record on paper of 27-0 but not someone who was genuinely going to slaughter Moorer in the way Tyson, Bowe or Lewis would. have

Suffering a close decision points loss against Moorer would have done Bean too much damage and again the management team of someone like Holyfield could spin it that Bean's performance against Moorer showed him to be a genuine contender
Maybe the Moorer was a voluntary, but why was he ranked?

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 11:24
by Bandog
Munguia.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 11:40
by margaret thatcher
Cent0089 wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:08 https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/9039

also something wrong with this guy

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/7454
ah yes, don the animal steele.............a man who lost to another fellow with a very fat record, brian neilsen, who was then 38-0 but would get to 49-0 before being upset by the great dicky ryan (himselff a very padded 47-4)

although brian did beat the legendary larry holmes, and you know what they say ----- when you beat a legend, you become a legend :clap:

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 15:46
by Theoson
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:45

Maybe the Moorer was a voluntary, but why was he ranked?
I;m making a guess that all the top heavyweights in the 1990s wanted to avoid each other unless the money was obscenely good hence you get someone like Bean getting a proper title shot and by that I mean the WBO wasn't really recognised. You also had a couple of other undefeated HWs namely Phil Jackson and Zelijkp Mavrovic who hadn't really beat anyone of note fight Lennox Lewis for the world title

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 07 Mar 2023, 17:11
by AngryGoon38
gilgamesh wrote: 22 Oct 2022, 17:39 You gotta throw Lamar Clark into this conversation.

He went from 42-0 with 41 KO's. To 43-3 with 42 KO's.

He has only 1 victory over an opponent with a Winning Record.
I looked him up.

His first 42 wins were against opponents with a combined record of 15-45.

Many amongst his first 42 wins were in they're pro-debut.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 08:49
by sibbo
Buck Smith

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 10:21
by IRONFIST
sibbo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 08:49Buck Smith
The Buck Smith who beat old Kirkland Laing?

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 22:18
by Evander
Bandog wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 11:24Munguia.
At this rate I'm starting to think he might be a woke boxer.
Reason being because anytime he's presented with a challenging opponent he thinks to himself "I don't feel I'm in a a safe space right now" :maybe:
Or "That choice of opponent is offensive to me" :wave:

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 14:43
by Theoson
IRONFIST wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 10:21
sibbo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 08:49Buck Smith
The Buck Smith who beat old Kirkland Laing?
Just out of curiousity what would have been more beneficial to someone like Buck Smith. Fighting and - occasionally losing - to someone at least people have heard of or "boxers" who make their debut against the boxer in question and never box again ?

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 18:07
by punchoutsb
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Mar 2023, 07:18 And the winner is..................

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4777

Take away the losses and look what you got. How he ever got title shots is beyond me.
I still remember Max Kellerman frothing at the mouth trying to convince everyone that Bean was going to beat Vitali :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 11 Mar 2023, 20:28
by wrighty
Who was that uncle Frank welter in the 80s?quite a good looking bloke he was like 20 fights unbeaten but not many had a good record

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 13 Mar 2023, 07:39
by IRONFIST
Theoson wrote: 11 Mar 2023, 14:43
IRONFIST wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 10:21
sibbo wrote: 09 Mar 2023, 08:49Buck Smith
The Buck Smith who beat old Kirkland Laing?
Just out of curiousity what would have been more beneficial to someone like Buck Smith. Fighting and - occasionally losing - to someone at least people have heard of or "boxers" who make their debut against the boxer in question and never box again ?
Pro boxers with just one fight but against a name? Interesting question, can't think of any boxers like that that immediately spring to mind.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 13 Mar 2023, 21:15
by AngryGoon38
Look up Julio Cesar Chavez. His lifetime pro record reads 107-6.
I don't regard that as particularly padded. JCC is a Tremendous Great Warrior Boxing Legend to me.
Many will say his record was quite padded, Especially to the fact that he went up to 89-0, before losing
A SD to Frankie Randall. I would say, well kinda sorta. But that basically goes for most boxing legends, technically speaking, more or less. I mean yeah, obviously, Chavez fought Many boxers who They themselves had definitively padded records.
Just look at the list(The who's who) of Chavez's opponents. One particular guy on his resume that i noticed only minutes ago was 44-0. I forgot his name allready.

One of his opponents whom I always can easily remember was none other than Marty Jakubowski. A travelling Midwest journeyman, who drove all over the place, state to state to state, virtually nonstop, just like Buck Smith, whom is another one of Chavez's wins. Buck had 13 losses by the time he got to fight Chavez, and was obviously Well past his best days by then. Jakubowski though, he got to fight Chavez twice. In 1992, and then again in 1999. His record going into those bouts..? 37-0 for the 1992 bout, and 102-5 going into his rematch versus The Great JCC.
Jakubowski retired with a pro carear record of 119-7. Obviously quite padded. Gotta admire his and Buck Smith's Extremely Stay Busy Boxing Work-Ethic though. Today's boxers obviously cannot relate in the slightest bit to such a work-ethic as those Gypsy Journeyman Boxing Warriors.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 14:21
by scallum
That Christopher Lovejoy guy has to be in the running. His record is super weak. Plus I'm Instagram friends with that guy, I never seen a fighter be so cheerful after getting stopped j. He was posting on Instagram after he got beat as if he had just won Heavyweight Championship if the World 😮😮😮

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 19 Mar 2023, 14:45
by Ruthless-RKO
scallum wrote: 19 Mar 2023, 14:21 That Christopher Lovejoy guy has to be in the running. His record is super weak. Plus I'm Instagram friends with that guy, I never seen a fighter be so cheerful after getting stopped j. He was posting on Instagram after he got beat as if he had just won Heavyweight Championship if the World 😮😮😮
He’s fighting tonight.

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 22 Mar 2023, 08:56
by Les Norton
Errol Spence

Re: Most padded record?

Posted: 06 Jun 2023, 01:33
by margaret thatcher
this fellow abel mendoza , 36-0 (27) and barely in boxrec's top 150

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/750352