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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 10:52
by GreenLightning
So the WBC are removing Russians from the rankings just for being Russian but everybody wants to go to headchopper country for that sweet oil money

No politics eh

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 10:54
by mickey1975
keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:40
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:39
keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:27

Do you take everything Team Fury says as gospel?
No.
Are you referring to the uncastrated wild boar meat excuse?
I wasn’t referring to anything.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 11:27
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:09 Big Doofus,

Are you able to provide an update on Uysk vs Fury talks? The complaint Fury made against Joshua was that he gave these so called amazing terms but Joshua wouldn't sign/commit to it.

By contrast, it sounds like Uysk has agreed all the terms, but Fury is totally silent on the matter.
I'm unable. However you were saying almost daily that Fury won't fight Usyk.
Despite Usyk not wanting to fight and Joshua's duck, Fury is fighting on 3 December and I don't expect him to speak about Usyk much until after that.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 11:36
by keithmoonhangover
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:54
keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:40
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:39
No.
Are you referring to the uncastrated wild boar meat excuse?
I wasn’t referring to anything.
Where do you stand on the uncastrated wild boar meat excuse? Do you believe it is genuine or not?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 11:42
by mickey1975
keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:36
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:54
keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:40

Are you referring to the uncastrated wild boar meat excuse?
I wasn’t referring to anything.
Where do you stand on the uncastrated wild boar meat excuse? Do you believe it is genuine or not?
Probably not. I’d rather not go over old ground on this thread as it got out of hand last time.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 12:10
by keithmoonhangover
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:42
keithmoonhangover wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:36
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:54
I wasn’t referring to anything.
Where do you stand on the uncastrated wild boar meat excuse? Do you believe it is genuine or not?
Probably not. I’d rather not go over old ground on this thread as it got out of hand last time.
I hope I didn't get out of hand. That wouldn't be my intention.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 13:18
by big lennox
BigDoofus wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:27
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:09 Big Doofus,

Are you able to provide an update on Uysk vs Fury talks? The complaint Fury made against Joshua was that he gave these so called amazing terms but Joshua wouldn't sign/commit to it.

By contrast, it sounds like Uysk has agreed all the terms, but Fury is totally silent on the matter.
I'm unable. However you were saying almost daily that Fury won't fight Usyk.
Despite Usyk not wanting to fight and Joshua's duck, Fury is fighting on 3 December and I don't expect him to speak about Usyk much until after that.
If Uysk has agreed terms, I thought Fury might put out a tweet like: " the Middleweight sausage is getting it after I have dealt with that dosser Chisora". But, instead, there is a screaming silence.

To the bystander, it is quite interesting that he was negotiating with Joshua on social media and complaining bitterly that Joshua wouldn't sign the contract, yet is completely silent, as are his team, on Usyk agreeing terms.

I just wonder if Uysk has got inside the big man's head?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 13:34
by BigDoofus
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:18 If Uysk has agreed terms, I thought Fury might put out a tweet like: " the Middleweight sausage is getting it after I have dealt with that dosser Chisora". But, instead, there is a screaming silence.

To the bystander, it is quite interesting that he was negotiating with Joshua on social media and complaining bitterly that Joshua wouldn't sign the contract, yet is completely silent, as are his team, on Usyk agreeing terms.

I just wonder if Uysk has got inside the big man's head?
You spend every day wondering about the big man. He's fighting in a few weeks.
Like Dillian Whyte, Joshua was given a deadline. Whyte didn't duck.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 13:51
by mickey1975
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:18
BigDoofus wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:27
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 10:09 Big Doofus,

Are you able to provide an update on Uysk vs Fury talks? The complaint Fury made against Joshua was that he gave these so called amazing terms but Joshua wouldn't sign/commit to it.

By contrast, it sounds like Uysk has agreed all the terms, but Fury is totally silent on the matter.
I'm unable. However you were saying almost daily that Fury won't fight Usyk.
Despite Usyk not wanting to fight and Joshua's duck, Fury is fighting on 3 December and I don't expect him to speak about Usyk much until after that.
If Uysk has agreed terms, I thought Fury might put out a tweet like: " the Middleweight sausage is getting it after I have dealt with that dosser Chisora". But, instead, there is a screaming silence.

To the bystander, it is quite interesting that he was negotiating with Joshua on social media and complaining bitterly that Joshua wouldn't sign the contract, yet is completely silent, as are his team, on Usyk agreeing terms.

I just wonder if Uysk has got inside the big man's head?
To be fair, it’s a much more professional approach to deal with Chis first. I also don’t think he runs his own social media whilst in camp.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 14:04
by big lennox
BigDoofus wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:34
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:18 If Uysk has agreed terms, I thought Fury might put out a tweet like: " the Middleweight sausage is getting it after I have dealt with that dosser Chisora". But, instead, there is a screaming silence.

To the bystander, it is quite interesting that he was negotiating with Joshua on social media and complaining bitterly that Joshua wouldn't sign the contract, yet is completely silent, as are his team, on Usyk agreeing terms.

I just wonder if Uysk has got inside the big man's head?
You spend every day wondering about the big man. He's fighting in a few weeks.
Like Dillian Whyte, Joshua was given a deadline. Whyte didn't duck.
Whyte signed on for a career best pay day. You spend most days trying to convince people that Joshua ducked Fury, despite Fury's unrealistic deadlines, which weren't given to Chisora, strangely. Almost as if he never wanted to box Joshua🤔

Has the Chisora fight sold out now?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 14:43
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:51
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:18
BigDoofus wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:27

I'm unable. However you were saying almost daily that Fury won't fight Usyk.
Despite Usyk not wanting to fight and Joshua's duck, Fury is fighting on 3 December and I don't expect him to speak about Usyk much until after that.
If Uysk has agreed terms, I thought Fury might put out a tweet like: " the Middleweight sausage is getting it after I have dealt with that dosser Chisora". But, instead, there is a screaming silence.

To the bystander, it is quite interesting that he was negotiating with Joshua on social media and complaining bitterly that Joshua wouldn't sign the contract, yet is completely silent, as are his team, on Usyk agreeing terms.

I just wonder if Uysk has got inside the big man's head?
To be fair, it’s a much more professional approach to deal with Chis first. I also don’t think he runs his own social media whilst in camp.
Yeah. It’s one thing if specifically asked about Usyk on an interview saying he’s a middleweight bum dosser and that’s he’s getting destroyed. It’s another coming out with it on his own accord whilst in the middle of camp for someone else. That rarely happens.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 14:56
by big lennox
mickey1975 wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:51
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 13:18
BigDoofus wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 11:27

I'm unable. However you were saying almost daily that Fury won't fight Usyk.
Despite Usyk not wanting to fight and Joshua's duck, Fury is fighting on 3 December and I don't expect him to speak about Usyk much until after that.
If Uysk has agreed terms, I thought Fury might put out a tweet like: " the Middleweight sausage is getting it after I have dealt with that dosser Chisora". But, instead, there is a screaming silence.

To the bystander, it is quite interesting that he was negotiating with Joshua on social media and complaining bitterly that Joshua wouldn't sign the contract, yet is completely silent, as are his team, on Usyk agreeing terms.

I just wonder if Uysk has got inside the big man's head?
To be fair, it’s a much more professional approach to deal with Chis first. I also don’t think he runs his own social media whilst in camp.
I agree it is a much more professional way, but his approach to negotiating with Joshua on social media wasn't professional, which is why I am surprised that he or someone from his team havent responded to Uysk's teams comments. After all, part of the promotion of the Chisora fight has been that it is Fury's fight before Uysk in the Spring.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 19:08
by deadpan
Fury won't fight Usyk.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 19:40
by coneye
We will see , Personally i think Furys silly deadlines were his way of seeking an out ,, but it was also Joshua's or Hearns excuse from God hey prayed for ,,, Pride got involved here , Fury just done what Fury does and run his mouth , not expecting AJ to agree ,, but AJ only agreed to save face ,, then they were both stuck in a fight non of them wanted ,,, will it happen i think it will , BUT a lot will depend , i think it will be the last fight for one or both of them , theres too much money for it not to be held .. but really alls Fury has to do is beat Usyk , then cash out in the biggest grossing fight of all time against AJ ,, but a couple of stars have to align ,
1--- Fury has to beat Usyk and hold al the belts (not a sure thing )

2 -- AJ has to get back on the winning track . ( quite easy , just pick a few of Furys opponents and beat them easier , )

But one things for sure If Fury does'nt fight Usyk or AJ next , he will really ruin his carreer ,,, not that it will bother him , while he's sat pondering wether to buy himself a rolls royce or a lambourgini for his next birthday .

Its all interesting ,, but i bet Furys camp are saying, Damm that pesky Usyk , pricks a real fly in the oitment ,,

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 19:41
by big lennox
deadpan wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:08 Fury won't fight Usyk.
Agreed. Sounds like it will be Fury vs Wilder 4 next year, and not Fury vs Uysk.

Fury was allowed a voluntary defence after beating Whyte ( and he chose to box Chisora) but then will have to box his mandatory next, which is Wilder.

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 20:02
by coneye
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:41
deadpan wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:08 Fury won't fight Usyk.
Agreed. Sounds like it will be Fury vs Wilder 4 next year, and not Fury vs Uysk.

Fury was allowed a voluntary defence after beating Whyte ( and he chose to box Chisora) but then will have to box his mandatory next, which is Wilder.
But won't they cancel that obligation out for a unification can't really see a way out for Fury , if i was Usyk i would be laying down the very very public challenge yesterday , today and tomoro ,, i think the Bully getting bullied would really effect Fury mentaly , he'll probably start eating more boars meat , to get an advantage ,and get caught or just quit again , . does'nt Wilder have to fight Ruiz to get number one spot and thats not a victory he can be asured of just yet

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 20:03
by margaret thatcher
lol image if it is fury-wilder next, that will be 7 ftimes hes fought his last 2 opponents

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 09 Nov 2022, 20:32
by coneye
margaret thatcher wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 20:03 lol image if it is fury-wilder next, that will be 7 ftimes hes fought his last 2 opponents
And the thing is it would'nt suprise anyone in the least :lol:

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 01:17
by mickey1975
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:41
deadpan wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:08 Fury won't fight Usyk.
Agreed. Sounds like it will be Fury vs Wilder 4 next year, and not Fury vs Uysk.

Fury was allowed a voluntary defence after beating Whyte ( and he chose to box Chisora) but then will have to box his mandatory next, which is Wilder.
So, are you expecting Wilder to beat Ruiz?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 01:37
by margaret thatcher
would be another opportunity to rekindle the love affair furyboi's have with their deontay <3

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 01:50
by DrDuke
Fury must fight Wilder again, after what there should be the 4th Chisora bout, while Usyk and Joshua gotta settle the trilogy. Let's return the old school style of Langford, Sam McVey, Harry Wills and the others!

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 02:11
by margaret thatcher
speaking of that, what's the most two guys ever fought each other?

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 02:29
by gregor
margaret thatcher wrote: 10 Nov 2022, 02:11 speaking of that, what's the most two guys ever fought each other?
Just checked and there were 33 fights between Mike Sweeney and Danny Cripps. At least according to boxrec, google says they were fighting 63 times ;-)

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 03:06
by margaret thatcher
jeezus :oo

Re: Tyson Fury vs. Oleksandr Usyk - Spring 2023

Posted: 10 Nov 2022, 03:35
by big lennox
mickey1975 wrote: 10 Nov 2022, 01:17
big lennox wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:41
deadpan wrote: 09 Nov 2022, 19:08 Fury won't fight Usyk.
Agreed. Sounds like it will be Fury vs Wilder 4 next year, and not Fury vs Uysk.

Fury was allowed a voluntary defence after beating Whyte ( and he chose to box Chisora) but then will have to box his mandatory next, which is Wilder.
So, are you expecting Wilder to beat Ruiz?
Just seen that they have announced that Wilder must face Ruiz Jnr. Previously, his fight against Helenius was for the mandatory position.

Ruiz vs Wilder will be an entertaining fight, but I think Wilder will take him out at some stage.