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It's going to be DDD.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑22 Feb 2023, 18:08 It's going to be DDD.

Lol, that can't be true.
Dubois barely won a fixed fight against Lerena and now they want to put him in with Fury at Wembley.
Talk about running Fury's fighting man reputation into the ground.

gregregegg wrote: ↑22 Feb 2023, 15:42 But im mentaly preparing for fury vs wilder 17.

the greatest love story in boxing

fury bois get wet at it

big lennox wrote: ↑22 Feb 2023, 09:19 Someone not up to the task.

if it isn't Uysk or Joshua at a pinch, then it's not worthy.
It will be some lame duck, and they will expect us to pay top dollar for the privilege.
I'll pass.

Who would Usyk face in the Spring if not Fury? Wilder? Does Joyce drop his fight for the title shot? Dubois? Hrgovic? Ruiz with an outside chance? Would Eddie pay up for Whyte?

joshj909 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2023, 17:34 Who would Usyk face in the Spring if not Fury? Wilder? Does Joyce drop his fight for the title shot? Dubois? Hrgovic? Ruiz with an outside chance? Would Eddie pay up for Whyte?

Maybe nobody. Perhaps without a Fury fight he retires. Perhaps he boxes one of the mandatories and keeps the plates spinning whilst he waits for a WBC title fight to unify 4.5 belts. What he certainly won't do is mouth off about all the people he is going to smash to bits as a fighting man blah blah and then not do anything he said.

I think they are about to announce Fury v Ngannou. YouTuber boxing seems like an appropriate platform for such an announcement.

Not wasting another penny on that giant bùllshit artist

Like saying Fury can’t have 50/50 because he couldn’t sell the Kiev Arena out.

Potentially unrelated but Andy Ruiz declined the 60/40 split offer to face for the interim IBF title. There's been little to no word about Ruiz versus Wilder either. Could it be Ruiz-Fury instead?

ashall2 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 15:02

Like saying Fury can’t have 50/50 because he couldn’t sell the Kiev Arena out.

The bout was never going to happen anyway. Fury could have fought Usyk last year but pulled out of the negotiations to demand an easy fight against the nowadays chinny uppercut magnet Whyte. When his hands are not tied ( = fighting Wlad in Germany or fighting Wilder to build his career back up after his PED ban), Fury only fights people he knows he can beat. All Fury cares about is his artificial 0-loss record and money.

At this point, I wish nothing but bad luck and misery for Fury in his professional life. May his WWE gimmicks flop, and may he lose popularity which will hit him where it hurts him the most: his market value. The way he has been wasting everyone's time and derailed everyone's plan in the HW division is inexcusable and I hope boxing fans will never forgive him for how he single-handedly prevented us from seeing what could have been the biggest and most important HW match of this century so far.

887986 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 18:33

ashall2 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 15:02

Like saying Fury can’t have 50/50 because he couldn’t sell the Kiev Arena out.

The bout was never going to happen anyway. Fury could have fought Usyk last year but pulled out of the negotiations to demand an easy fight against the nowadays chinny uppercut magnet Whyte. When his hands are not tied ( = fighting Wlad in Germany or fighting Wilder to build his career back up after his PED ban), Fury only fights people he knows he can beat. All Fury cares about is his artificial 0-loss record and money.

At this point, I wish nothing but bad luck and misery for Fury in his professional life. May his WWE gimmicks flop, and may he lose popularity which will hit him where it hurts him the most: his market value. The way he has been wasting everyone's time and derailed everyone's plan in the HW division is inexcusable and I hope boxing fans will never forgive him for how he single-handedly prevented us from seeing what could have been the biggest and most important HW match of this century so far.

I have noticed that fans have started to call him Dreary Feary on social media. I think a lot of boxing fans have seen through him now.

887986 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 18:33

ashall2 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2023, 15:02

Like saying Fury can’t have 50/50 because he couldn’t sell the Kiev Arena out.

The bout was never going to happen anyway. Fury could have fought Usyk last year but pulled out of the negotiations to demand an easy fight against the nowadays chinny uppercut magnet Whyte. When his hands are not tied ( = fighting Wlad in Germany or fighting Wilder to build his career back up after his PED ban), Fury only fights people he knows he can beat. All Fury cares about is his artificial 0-loss record and money.

At this point, I wish nothing but bad luck and misery for Fury in his professional life. May his WWE gimmicks flop, and may he lose popularity which will hit him where it hurts him the most: his market value. The way he has been wasting everyone's time and derailed everyone's plan in the HW division is inexcusable and I hope boxing fans will never forgive him for how he single-handedly prevented us from seeing what could have been the biggest and most important HW match of this century so far.

Chinny uppercut magnet Whyte

Just make of list of fighters Fury can easily beat. Wallin has looked pretty flat for me, winning fights on points. He might do.

Tonight I saw a dream, where Fury signed against Ngannou and they made a promotion presser.

DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:14 Tonight I saw a dream, where Fury signed against Ngannou and they made a promotion presser.

I would not have minded the Ngannou fight if it happened immediately after Whyte. Or if it happens immediately after Usyk. I have a feeling since Ruiz has signed with Eddie Hearn he might get a two-fight deal with Fury where Tyson gets both Ruiz and Joshua or some combination of Ruiz-Joyce-Joshua since Joyce is with Queensbury and it be easy to make.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:40

DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:14 Tonight I saw a dream, where Fury signed against Ngannou and they made a promotion presser.

I would not have minded the Ngannou fight if it happened immediately after Whyte.

You wouldn't have minded an elite boxer fighting someone who's never boxed before?

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 06:31

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:40

DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:14 Tonight I saw a dream, where Fury signed against Ngannou and they made a promotion presser.

I would not have minded the Ngannou fight if it happened immediately after Whyte.

You wouldn't have minded an elite boxer fighting someone who's never boxed before?

It’s a nonsense! The stance in UFC is totally different to boxing so they don’t get push off-balance too easily and get taken down. Ngannou would be all over the place just trying to get his feet right when moving, and Fury would be hitting him at will and having the easiest spar of his life. It would be a seriously awful spectacle which would only last until Ngannou was completely exhausted.

polecateddy wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 06:52

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 06:31

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:40

I would not have minded the Ngannou fight if it happened immediately after Whyte.

You wouldn't have minded an elite boxer fighting someone who's never boxed before?

It’s a nonsense! The stance in UFC is totally different to boxing so they don’t get push off-balance too easily and get taken down. Ngannou would be all over the place just trying to get his feet right when moving, and Fury would be hitting him at will and having the easiest spar of his life. It would be a seriously awful spectacle which would only last until Ngannou was completely exhausted.

It's a good job Fury's not in for the money.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 06:31

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:40

DrDuke wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:14 Tonight I saw a dream, where Fury signed against Ngannou and they made a promotion presser.

I would not have minded the Ngannou fight if it happened immediately after Whyte.

You wouldn't have minded an elite boxer fighting someone who's never boxed before?

No because many good or great champions had crossover bouts like Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield, Berbick, etc. Novelties are not a bad thing. Besides, had the Ngannou fight took place immediately after Whyte it'd of been perfectly acceptable because Whyte was the mandatory challenger for nearly three years. As long as you're doing mandatories and truly important fights, you can throw in a gimme (ie, Chisora) or a novelty.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 07:02

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 06:31

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 01:40

I would not have minded the Ngannou fight if it happened immediately after Whyte.

You wouldn't have minded an elite boxer fighting someone who's never boxed before?

No because many good or great champions had crossover bouts like Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield, Berbick, etc. Novelties are not a bad thing. Besides, had the Ngannou fight took place immediately after Whyte it'd of been perfectly acceptable because Whyte was the mandatory challenger for nearly three years. As long as you're doing mandatories and truly important fights, you can throw in a gimme (ie, Chisora) or a novelty.

Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield and Berbick,'s 'novelties' were either a one sided beat down or a disaster. If you love boxing, you can't advocate this.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 07:13

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 07:02

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 06:31

You wouldn't have minded an elite boxer fighting someone who's never boxed before?

No because many good or great champions had crossover bouts like Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield, Berbick, etc. Novelties are not a bad thing. Besides, had the Ngannou fight took place immediately after Whyte it'd of been perfectly acceptable because Whyte was the mandatory challenger for nearly three years. As long as you're doing mandatories and truly important fights, you can throw in a gimme (ie, Chisora) or a novelty.

Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield and Berbick,'s 'novelties' were either a one sided beat down or a disaster. If you love boxing, you can't advocate this.

So they get a pass but Tyson Fury doesn't?

I call horseshit.

I also don't think it is right to say one isn't a proper boxing fan if you happen to like crossover matches. I know some people like to get pretty snobby with boxing acting as if it's complete and total blasphemy to do anything else but have boxing matches if you are a contender or champion, but if we're going to go down that same road then a contender or champion should never be able to do commercials or act in television or movies, etc.

If it was good enough for John L Sullivan to have a match with William Muldoon or Bob Fitzsimmons to have a match with Ernest Roeber, etc then we shouldn't be so snobby about modern heavyweights engaging in similar matches that only bring in more attention or fans to the sport.

Yet did those legendary fighters take on their main rivals?

He doesn't get a pass because it appears that he's avoiding his main rival in a historic matchup, and instead, trying to cram easy win fights down our throats and expects the fans to accept it.
He doesn't get a pass because he offers up bullshit excuses for avoiding his biggest rival(s).
He doesn't get a pass because he contradicts himself all the time. He's a fighting man, will fight for free, money doesn't matter. Yet, when it comes down to it, it's all about money.
He doesn't get a pass because he gaslights his gullible fans into believing his rival isn't a worthy opponent, dropping in words such as 'middleweight' to describe a 6ft 3" 223lbs rival. This works with the most gullible, who even go as far as to state his rival is the same size as his wife.

The horseshit is all around you.

He's had his (as promised)gimme easy win over an old friend to help him into retirement. He's had his times in the WWE to help bring more attention/fans to boxing.
All we'd like now is for him to back up the words he's spoken many a time, and prove that he's the best of his era and can't be beaten. That time is now and the opponent is Usyk.

6 foot 3, 220 pound paris fury, it's just too great

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 22:31

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 07:13

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑25 Feb 2023, 07:02

No because many good or great champions had crossover bouts like Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield, Berbick, etc. Novelties are not a bad thing. Besides, had the Ngannou fight took place immediately after Whyte it'd of been perfectly acceptable because Whyte was the mandatory challenger for nearly three years. As long as you're doing mandatories and truly important fights, you can throw in a gimme (ie, Chisora) or a novelty.

Mayweather, Ali, Walcott, Moore, Holyfield and Berbick,'s 'novelties' were either a one sided beat down or a disaster. If you love boxing, you can't advocate this.

So they get a pass but Tyson Fury doesn't?

I call horseshit.

I also don't think it is right to say one isn't a proper boxing fan if you happen to like crossover matches. I know some people like to get pretty snobby with boxing acting as if it's complete and total blasphemy to do anything else but have boxing matches if you are a contender or champion, but if we're going to go down that same road then a contender or champion should never be able to do commercials or act in television or movies, etc.

If it was good enough for John L Sullivan to have a match with William Muldoon or Bob Fitzsimmons to have a match with Ernest Roeber, etc then we shouldn't be so snobby about modern heavyweights engaging in similar matches that only bring in more attention or fans to the sport.

No, none of them get a pass. All the novelty fights were farce.