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Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 13:35
by Cask
goose 5 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:41
Any of you guys ever visit an "open carry" state in America ?
No ,unless Florida is open carry?
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 13:48
by leejonesjnr
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:21
J-C wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:12
Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:07So apparently it was a Smith and Weston in hand luggage! So he didn't buy that at the Arndale centre so he must have flown over with it, how the fcuk did they miss it on the way in?
All the report I've seen said
hold luggage.
Boxing King Media has just done an interview with Dom Ingle and he said hand luggage, either way it's pretty sketchy.
Times must be hard for Ingle if he’s doing shifts at the airport
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 13:59
by CaptainSpacerod
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 14:04
by cormack
well he is an adult and dumb as it is its down to him - if his prints are on the weapon then he is goosed
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 14:14
by Coco
I like listening to Dom, fights his corner, knows his stuff inside out
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 14:36
by Loynesy
Can't see how this isn't a 3-5 year stint.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 14:42
by Coco
Loynesy wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:36
Can't see how this isn't a 3-5 year stint.
Wouldn't they just deport him, and not let him back.
I watched that programme on Canadian custom, Americans on holiday would get lost, not meaning to cross the border so they would be fined and have their guns taken off them.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 15:09
by maverick23
goose 5 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:41
Any of you guys ever visit an "open carry" state in America ?
Yep.
Went to Vegas for a week on holiday and my friend and I booked to go to a gun range one day. They send a driver to the hotel and then provide a lift back. On the way back the driver asked if we enjoyed it and we said we had. He then passed his gun behind to us to look at whilst saying ‘Be careful - it’s loaded’.
Not sure if he was joking.
Different world.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 15:23
by rd350lc
What a silly Billy .
Thick as mince if he knowingly took it with him .
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 15:32
by Coco
maverick23 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 15:09
goose 5 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 12:41
Any of you guys ever visit an "open carry" state in America ?
Yep.
Went to Vegas for a week on holiday and my friend and I booked to go to a gun range one day. They send a driver to the hotel and then provide a lift back. On the way back the driver asked if we enjoyed it and we said we had. He then passed his gun behind to us to look at whilst saying ‘Be careful - it’s loaded’.
Not sure if he was joking.
Different world.
I went to Montana on holiday, I was 35 and it was tough to get in bars without id(my passport was my only id and didn't want to lose it) but bringing in guns to the pub(as long as they were on show) was no problem.
I suppose they were defending their kids against black folk...
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 15:44
by MasterG
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 10:31
No chance at all of him going to jail for this.
His first rate lawyer will argue that Bomax (as the daft Sky girl kept calling him) was unaware of uk gun laws. He’ll tell us what a pivotal role Bomac’s charity work plays in rescuing underprivileged kids from a life of crime in his own community etc etc and he’ll end up getting a gentle slap on the wrist
This.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 15:51
by My T Sharp
With weaker security you can travel with guns on private jets. Possibly he arrived private and went back commercial but forgot about the gun in the bag. Or got a proper security check on the private return.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 16:24
by bripez
Remanded in custody until 9th October
He's higher profile than Joe Bloggs but not really high profile - they could make an example of him
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 16:33
by Counter-puncher
Loynesy wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 14:36
Can't see how this isn't a 3-5 year stint.
Well,you’re just a professional lawyer who does it for a job and knows the law and stuff.
The real experts on boxrec have predicted that he will be let off scot free by parroting some putatively ‘woke’ credentials.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 16:35
by Counter-puncher
bripez wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 16:24
Remanded in custody until 9th October
He's higher profile than Joe Bloggs but not really high profile - they could make an example of him
What, no?
You astound me.
He obviously never told them about all the at risk kids he saves from a life of crime.
He needed a better lawyer by the sound of it, he’d have walked it if he’d given them a bit of a sob story.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 16:57
by Nightmare Roy
MasterG wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 15:44
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 10:31
No chance at all of him going to jail for this.
His first rate lawyer will argue that Bomax (as the daft Sky girl kept calling him) was unaware of uk gun laws. He’ll tell us what a pivotal role Bomac’s charity work plays in rescuing underprivileged kids from a life of crime in his own community etc etc and he’ll end up getting a gentle slap on the wrist
This.
He's in jail now until October at least, guns are zero tolerance under uk law, I feel for him if it's a genuine mistake and he just had it in his bag from a previous trip but he's likely to real serious jail time. I I wouldn't be surprised if there even stricker terror related laws about guns at airports etc
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 17:03
by Glass Joe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 05:33
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-12478067/Chris-Eubank-Jrs-trainer-arrested-Manchester-Airport-carrying-loaded-gun-ammunition-suitcase-flight-Saturday-nights-fight.html
The trainer of Chris Eubank Jr was arrested by armed airport police after security officials found a loaded gun and ammunition in a suitcase.
Mail Sport understands Brian ‘Bomac’ McIntyre was detained amid dramatic scenes at Manchester Airport on Sunday morning.
The alarm was raised when a scan of the baggage – which had been checked in ahead of a flight – showed the weapon, along with a magazine inside.
Police officers with their own guns descended on the departure lounge at Terminal 2 and arrested 53-year-old McIntyre, who was due to fly to Atlanta, for possession of a firearm.
McIntyre, himself a former boxer from the United States, had overseen Eubank Jr’s comprehensive victory over Liam Smith in their middleweight rematch in the city on Saturday night.
The suitcase was checked in with little attempt to conceal the weapon, it is thought. A spokesperson for Greater Manchester Police said: ‘At around 10:45 am on Sunday 3 September 2023, officers were called to reports of a possible firearm being found in hold luggage by airport staff at Manchester Airport.
‘After initial inspection by security staff, GMP officers attended, and the firearm was seized.
'Subsequently, a man has been arrested for possession of a firearm and remains in custody for further questioning.’
How the gun came to be in the suitcase will form part of the police’s probe. Officers will seek to establish whether it was brought into the UK – and if so how that happened – or purchased here.
McIntyre is widely regarded as one of the best trainers in the sport. He orchestrated what was Eubank’s career-best performance in the pair’s first fight together. Crawford is viewed by some as the finest pound-for-pound fighters on the planet.
He has also been in the corner for former super-featherweight champion Jamel Herring and trained Amir Khan for his fight with Kell Brook last year.
McIntyre also trains US star Terence Crawford. The pair grew up on the same Omaha street and trained at the same gym.
Eubank Jr's team refused to comment when approached by Mail Sport.
ruthless, you need to do a poll on what his punishment will be
Jail time year plus
Jail time less then a year
Not guilty
Slap on the wrist
case dropped
i blame George groves
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 17:13
by Monzon83
He’s rich enough to afford a good lawyer. Plead innocence based on something like somebody else packed my bag and by some accident a gun was left in there and I had no idea it was even there. Plus some strings get pulled based on his community work.
I’ll bet money he doesn’t get sentenced to any UK prison time. Might not make bail though I guess he’s a flight risk. What a mess
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 17:18
by Teddy's Toupee
The British police are such politically correct pussies. American cops would have shot BoMac.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 17:31
by damage
Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:18
The British police are such politically correct pussies. American cops would have shot BoMac.
Would be hard to miss him!
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 17:32
by Loynesy
Monzon83 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:13
He’s rich enough to afford a good lawyer. Plead innocence based on something like somebody else packed my bag and by some accident a gun was left in there and I had no idea it was even there. Plus some strings get pulled based on his community work.
I’ll bet money he doesn’t get sentenced to any UK prison time. Might not make bail though I guess he’s a flight risk. What a mess
I will take that bet. Taking an unlicensed firearm ( and by definition he can't be licensed in the U.K.) on an aircraft carries a 3-5 year prison sentence if found guilty.
A couple of other responses:
1. It's a strict liability offence which is precisely why you need to state when you check in that no one have you anything to carry and you packed your own bag.
2. You can't be legally deported instead of being tried under English law. You can be sentenced and then sent back to your home country to serve your prison time.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 17:46
by Frostieballs
Loynesy wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:32
Monzon83 wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 17:13
He’s rich enough to afford a good lawyer. Plead innocence based on something like somebody else packed my bag and by some accident a gun was left in there and I had no idea it was even there. Plus some strings get pulled based on his community work.
I’ll bet money he doesn’t get sentenced to any UK prison time. Might not make bail though I guess he’s a flight risk. What a mess
I will take that bet. Taking an unlicensed firearm ( and by definition he can't be licensed in the U.K.) on an aircraft carries a 3-5 year prison sentence if found guilty.
A couple of other responses:
1. It's a strict liability offence which is precisely why you need to state when you check in that no one have you anything to carry and you packed your own bag.
2. You can't be legally deported instead of being tried under English law. You can be sentenced and then sent back to your home country to serve your prison time.
If it’s a strict liability offence, they need to get Benn’s lawyers on the case.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 18:23
by rob h
Section 1(1) of the Firearms Act 1968 creates an absolute offence of having possession of, purchasing or acquiring a firearm or ammunition without a certificate or otherwise than as authorised by such a certificate. Section 1(2) creates an offence of failing to comply with the conditions of such a certificate.
He's buggered. Not only with the possession, but if its a handgun then they're also prohibited in the UK. And if he brought it in to the country in the first place then it's another offence for importation. I'd say he's looking at 7 years minimum currently.
Very silly.
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 18:25
by Coco
Apparently his lawyers are already drafting a 273 page document which nobody was allowed to see.
And he stuffed himself full of eggs at the buffet breakfast
Re: Brian McIntyre was arrested at Manchester Airport after carrying a loaded gun and ammunition in his suitcase
Posted: 04 Sep 2023, 18:29
by Controversial
Coco wrote: ↑04 Sep 2023, 18:25
Apparently his lawyers are already drafting a 273 page document which nobody was allowed to see.
And he stuffed himself full of eggs at the buffet breakfast
I reckon customs had it in for him
