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Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 12:04
by rhino222
SeanBrennan wrote: 20 Sep 2023, 08:53
coneye wrote: 19 Sep 2023, 23:14
leejonesjnr wrote: 19 Sep 2023, 13:40

In defence of nobody BUT my lower back has been split open more times than Katie Price and without knowing where to look and being a few inches away you couldn’t know.
I've had shoulder surgery , keyhole no scars ,
I've had two spinal surgeries, laminectomy/discectomy, and shoulder surgery (rotator cuff) and no scars.
Impossible to have no scars.

Keyhole surgery (shoulder for example) always has 3 ports of entry. One for the camera, one for the operating device (rotating osteotome etc) and one for a device to lift tissue in or out of the line of vision of the camera or the operating device. Each keyhole incision is 8-10mm in length. Whilst a 1cm incision is not a massive scar, they still leave visible scars that are red initially and settle down completely in 8-12 months.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 12:13
by maverick23
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 11:08
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 09:52
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 09:41

I'm just going off the things I was told. I have nothing in writing to back it up.
Were you told by someone credible?
He isn't connected to Fury, but he's credible.
Does he have any connections to UKAD or VADA? I’m just trying to understand how he’d know more than the national media as Fury failing a drugs test would be mainstream news.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 12:16
by jwfg
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 12:13
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 11:08
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 09:52

Were you told by someone credible?
He isn't connected to Fury, but he's credible.
Does he have any connections to UKAD or VADA? I’m just trying to understand how he’d know more than the national media as Fury failing a drugs test would be mainstream news.
As I said, there are plenty of other failed test that are 'kept out of the news'.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23
by Glass Joe
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:32
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:17
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 09:21

There are plenty of fails, which never make the news.
there are a few inactive fighters that haven't boxed in ages that might be on these silent bans things, one in partial who looked world-class in his British title fight at york hall who has disappeared, another who has a famous surname.
Where has the idea of a silent banned list come from? Just from people on social media?
Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 13:43
by maverick23
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 12:16
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 12:13
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 11:08

He isn't connected to Fury, but he's credible.
Does he have any connections to UKAD or VADA? I’m just trying to understand how he’d know more than the national media as Fury failing a drugs test would be mainstream news.
As I said, there are plenty of other failed test that are 'kept out of the news'.
Ok. Can you name one?

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 13:46
by maverick23
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:32
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:17

there are a few inactive fighters that haven't boxed in ages that might be on these silent bans things, one in partial who looked world-class in his British title fight at york hall who has disappeared, another who has a famous surname.
Where has the idea of a silent banned list come from? Just from people on social media?
Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
Good for Joe. That doesn’t mean he’s right though. He also said Eddie Hearn was racist and sexist in the past and said a few weeks ago that Natasha Jonas could draw 60,000 in Zanzibar and it’d be like the Rumble in the Jungle.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 13:53
by TheLeprechaun
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:46
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:32

Where has the idea of a silent banned list come from? Just from people on social media?
Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
Good for Joe. That doesn’t mean he’s right though. He also said Eddie Hearn was racist and sexist in the past and said a few weeks ago that Natasha Jonas could draw 60,000 in Zanzibar and it’d be like the Rumble in the Jungle.


He's done well for Jonas. She wasn't getting anywhere with Hearn. I suppose he was more invested in the Harpers and Taylors.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 15:43
by maverick23
TheLeprechaun wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:53
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:46
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23

Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
Good for Joe. That doesn’t mean he’s right though. He also said Eddie Hearn was racist and sexist in the past and said a few weeks ago that Natasha Jonas could draw 60,000 in Zanzibar and it’d be like the Rumble in the Jungle.


He's done well for Jonas. She wasn't getting anywhere with Hearn. I suppose he was more invested in the Harpers and Taylors.
Yeah. He’s done well with Jonas. Jonas did have 2 world title fights not long after a bad stoppage loss with Matchroom. Drew one and lost the other hence going up several weights where the quality isn’t as high with Boxxer.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 17:07
by a force
We know Fury’s still doping anyway. He was listed as a client of Conor Benn’s doctor the testosterone specialist who’s been in Fury’s dressing room.

Fury, Benn, Parker, Cordina, Till all clients.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 17:18
by polecateddy
Do you think with Hughie they are trying to pump him full of drugs to overcome his other long term medical issues? Ramp up his testosterone and all that.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 29 Sep 2023, 18:05
by SeanBrennan
polecateddy wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 17:18 Do you think with Hughie they are trying to pump him full of drugs to overcome his other long term medical issues? Ramp up his testosterone and all that.
If they are he has super hard gainer genetics, he's 230 at 6'6 with high bodyfat. I'd not be surprised if he's smashing test but he really does have awful genetics if he is

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 17:10
by JamesPhilips
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:32
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:17

there are a few inactive fighters that haven't boxed in ages that might be on these silent bans things, one in partial who looked world-class in his British title fight at york hall who has disappeared, another who has a famous surname.
Where has the idea of a silent banned list come from? Just from people on social media?
Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
I don’t get it, how are these bans kept silent and out of the news? Is legal pressure put on the testers? like a kind of injunction? Or is t an agreement between the testers and the the athlete?

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 17:16
by maverick23
JamesPhilips wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 17:10
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:32

Where has the idea of a silent banned list come from? Just from people on social media?
Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
I don’t get it, how are these bans kept silent and out of the news? Is legal pressure put on the testers? like a kind of injunction? Or is t an agreement between the testers and the the athlete?
Or it’s not an actual thing.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 18:06
by jwfg
JamesPhilips wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 17:10
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23
maverick23 wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 10:32

Where has the idea of a silent banned list come from? Just from people on social media?
Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
I don’t get it, how are these bans kept silent and out of the news? Is legal pressure put on the testers? like a kind of injunction? Or is t an agreement between the testers and the the athlete?
Because money talks and bullshit runs the marathon.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 01 Oct 2023, 19:15
by JamesPhilips
jwfg wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 18:06
JamesPhilips wrote: 01 Oct 2023, 17:10
Glass Joe wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 13:23

Joe Gallagher mentioned it last week



Need UKAD to release a statement if there is such a thing :maybe:
I don’t get it, how are these bans kept silent and out of the news? Is legal pressure put on the testers? like a kind of injunction? Or is t an agreement between the testers and the the athlete?
Because money talks and bullshit runs the marathon.
That’s a bit abstract for me……anything more concrete? 😁

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 12:09
by BigDoofus
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 06:51 I just heard that Tyson Fury failed another PED test and that's the reason he couldn't fight earlier in the year.
LIAR.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 12:34
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 12:09
jwfg wrote: 29 Sep 2023, 06:51 I just heard that Tyson Fury failed another PED test and that's the reason he couldn't fight earlier in the year.
LIAR.
I did hear it, I am not lying about that. If it is 100% accurate, I only have someone's word for that.

Fury is also a proven drug cheat, is that a lie?

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 12:49
by gilgamesh
If the Heavyweight Champion failed a drug test and COULDN'T fight for a year it wouldn't be a rumor, it'd be news.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 13:01
by jwfg
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 12:49 If the Heavyweight Champion failed a drug test and COULDN'T fight for a year it wouldn't be a rumor, it'd be news.
He won't be fighting a sanctioned boxing match until at least a year since the Chisora fight.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 13:03
by gilgamesh
Cool story bro

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 13:08
by jwfg
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 13:03 Cool story bro
Do you honestly think that every failed test goes public?

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 13:23
by gilgamesh
I personally don't care, but if it didn't go public that's just about the same as...it didn't f*cking happen.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 13:32
by BigDoofus
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 13:23 I personally don't care, but if it didn't go public that's just about the same as...it didn't f*cking happen.
It happened in the troll’s mind.
Posting libelous nonsense. What could possibly go wrong?

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 14:51
by margaret thatcher
ya tbf, no evidence we know of that proven drug cheat tyson fury's foray into freak fights is due to yet another ban.

Re: The drug cheat thread - UK version.

Posted: 02 Oct 2023, 15:07
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 13:32
gilgamesh wrote: 02 Oct 2023, 13:23 I personally don't care, but if it didn't go public that's just about the same as...it didn't f*cking happen.
It happened in the troll’s mind.
Posting libelous nonsense. What could possibly go wrong?
Why hasn't Fury got a BBBofC licence?