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Toward had something for sure, if he could get his "ManStrength".

The rest I agree with you, but Toward was a really, really good am and his tekkers is obviously superb. And he's 22 and 2-0 - he could go far IF he can really improve and answer all the 'ifs' over the next 3 or so years...

skanksta wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 17:36 Toward had something for sure, if he could get his "ManStrength".

The rest I agree with you, but Toward was a really, really good am and his tekkers is obviously superb. And he's 22 and 2-0 - he could go far IF he can really improve and answer all the 'ifs' over the next 3 or so years...

Excellent post. Better than watching someone two fights in and with no knowledge of them announcing they'll do nowt.

Main event time.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 17:37

skanksta wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 17:36 Toward had something for sure, if he could get his "ManStrength".

The rest I agree with you, but Toward was a really, really good am and his tekkers is obviously superb. And he's 22 and 2-0 - he could go far IF he can really improve and answer all the 'ifs' over the next 3 or so years...

Excellent post. Better than watching someone two fights in and with no knowledge of them announcing they'll do nowt.

Fair enough but I''ve watched boxing for long enough. Time will tell.

I love that the Colombian is the Polish Champ.

lol is he ?

10-9 Kelly.
He's gonna win every round until he gets clocked. Great talent when on top...

Really good from The Pretty Boy.

Ramirez looked out of his depth - very disappointing - but a lovely one shot KO with his first real burst - can't do better than that. Talent is there for a WT win, but everything has to fall in to place for him. He seemed to really enjoy being @ home with support.
Could he do beat Tszyu with a vociferous support @ the S.O.L ?

I think he could, don't think he will, let's find out...

Nah - he wants to bugger about at Dom level vs Eubank and Benn.

That kinda tells you he won't trouble the beltholders.

Yes, a good punch, not devastating but right on the nose and with enough force.

Ramirez could have got up immediately but choose to stay down and was a very poor opponent.

At least Kelly can now move on to a shot for a belt.

skanksta wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 18:03 Nah - he wants to bugger about at Dom level vs Eubank and Benn.

That kinda tells you he won't trouble the beltholders.

Well Eubank would eat him up, so I'd avoid him.

really good uppercut to finish it, good win for Kelly. Win the IBO next and use it to market yourself to a better bauble.

NazNaci1 wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 18:06

skanksta wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 18:03 Nah - he wants to bugger about at Dom level vs Eubank and Benn.

That kinda tells you he won't trouble the beltholders.

Well Eubank would eat him up, so I'd avoid him.

Not @ 157 CatchWeight he wouldnae.

I reckon he might beat Benn and sell his name for a PPV @ 157 at the SOL - would be a good pension fight for Chris and build a base for PBK>

Kelly beats all domestics

skanksta wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 18:02 Really good from The Pretty Boy.

Ramirez looked out of his depth - very disappointing - but a lovely one shot KO with his first real burst - can't do better than that. Talent is there for a WT win, but everything has to fall in to place for him. He seemed to really enjoy being @ home with support.
Could he do beat Tszyu with a vociferous support @ the S.O.L ?

I think he could, don't think he will, let's find out...

tszyu would pound him, im not sure how we go from placido ramirez to the arguable world #1. josh beat up a soft touch who got last minute notice, let's not get carried away. looking good as a front runner was exactly what josh was doing before he got plonkered

he stepped up to fringe world class and had a draw, then did it again and got battered. tim stepped to that level and has won again and again. tim's team show confidence in him, josh's dont show it in him

I think Kelly is a different fighter now, and hope he gets a title shot

based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

if he's so much better, his team should be a lot more confident with his match making

he hasnt even beat a euro level fighter

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

Time out, listening to him and his trainer, and tonight's concussive performance.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:27

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

Time out, listening to him and his trainer, and tonight's concussive performance.

he drubbed plenty of soft touches before. boxing is all about levels, josh couldnt win either fight at fringe world and hasnt been back since.

never even beat a euro level fighter, yet he beats placido ramirez and we are talking beating tim tszyu for the worlds? i dont get it

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:28

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:27

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

Time out, listening to him and his trainer, and tonight's concussive performance.

he drubbed plenty of soft touches before. boxing is all about levels, josh couldnt win either fight at fringe world and hasnt been back since.

never even beat a euro level fighter, yet he beats placido ramirez and we are talking beating tim tszyu for the worlds? i dont get it

I'm not worried about what you get.

Unless it's AIDS.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Dec 2023, 20:26 based on what?

this is pretty much exactly what he did before. have people rave over him when he'd beat soft touches

if he's so much better, his team should be a lot more confident with his match making

he hasnt even beat a euro level fighter

Well of course he'd be a big outsider and probably get splattered, but based on...

He's always been very talented, flashy athletic. IF, big massive if, he's head is right (and home support is behind him) he can win rounds against anyone. He has always looked good as a front runner and on one special stadium night he could get his nose in front, stay out of trouble and surf a wave of support to a decision win.
I mean, I'd be checking the odds of Tszyu KO carefully, because of course - you're right - he's a flaky talent that "doesn't like it up 'em". He's got form for looking $1m against cans and falling apart under pressure even from winning positions.
But yeah, just one special night - it's not that absurd.

I dunno, it's late and I watched a great KO and I'm probably getting carried away, but there's defo a price I'd bet Kelly pts vs Tszyu @ S.O.L - especially if he passed a gut check for the first time.
Kinda Khan Maidana scenario maybe ?

just dont think he's that level, he'd fall apart no doubt to me. not everyone can cut it vs world level opposition, even on their best day. so far josh couldnt win in 2 attempts just at fringe level

if he's really good enough to do it, he's being wasted against soft touches like this

Kelly's uppercut KO was as impressive as Jake Paul's was last night, cracking shot, so what? He still looked crap, Ramirez terrible, get Sauerland to fck man

Guys, I don’t understand why there are still no tournament results on the website? It's been 5 hours since Kelly's fight