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Ezzard wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 07:23 People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

a force wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 14:30

Ezzard wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 07:23 People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

Bang on. They knew Haye’s body was knackered. Coldwell knows people close to Haye from his days at Hayemaker & they knew about Haye flying to Germany to see an injury specialist on fight week.

rhino222 wrote: ↑22 Oct 2023, 13:06

banjo wrote: ↑22 Oct 2023, 12:27 Scummy blue nose, hope he gets cancer

You fence sitting bastard......

tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 04:14 Famous sports people are often in a difficult position of having to live up to the fans of their particular sports unrealistic expectations.

I think it's worth remembering that in boxing they are just very good at punching someone.
Good at kicking a ball if they are a footballer .. able ride a bike fast if they are a cyclist .. or throw darts very accurately if they are dart players. Not exactly significant things in the bigger picture of things ..
They rarely excel at anything outside of their chosen sport .. I can't think of any former professional top class boxer having become a doctor or something similar which had a positive impact on human kind.

As any professional sportsperson Bellew ultimately had talent and a huge amount of luck which enabled him to become very rich. Best of luck to him for achieving it too.

Controversial wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 16:44

tonyevs wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 04:14 Famous sports people are often in a difficult position of having to live up to the fans of their particular sports unrealistic expectations.

I think it's worth remembering that in boxing they are just very good at punching someone.
Good at kicking a ball if they are a footballer .. able ride a bike fast if they are a cyclist .. or throw darts very accurately if they are dart players. Not exactly significant things in the bigger picture of things ..
They rarely excel at anything outside of their chosen sport .. I can't think of any former professional top class boxer having become a doctor or something similar which had a positive impact on human kind.

As any professional sportsperson Bellew ultimately had talent and a huge amount of luck which enabled him to become very rich. Best of luck to him for achieving it too.

I agree with this. The saying ‘don’t meet your heroes’ is bang on as many aren’t nice/clever/polite etc etc. They may just be a good actor, singer, athlete or whatever. I can imagine someone like Bellew going down the wrong path if it wasn’t for boxing and not being a nice bloke to be on the wrong side of. As a fighter I think he had a decent career.

Ezzard wrote: ↑23 Oct 2023, 07:23 People seem to forget that before the first Haye fight that Bellew was telling everyone who would listen that Haye was not the same fighter.

There was no luck involved. He knew he would win. He knew Haye's days were numbered. He made an informed gamble that paid off.

SAPFO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 04:10 I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑22 Oct 2023, 11:40 Knobhead who got lucky at the end of his career by fighting a shot to shit Haye which made people think he was good.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 04:35

SAPFO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 04:10 I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

Then he got asked, if he beat him, hows Haye better.

He said style of fights, then gave a footy example.

If Exeter beat Man utd or Liverpool, does that make them better?

Tarquin Tarpaulin IV wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 19:26

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑22 Oct 2023, 11:40 Knobhead who got lucky at the end of his career by fighting a shot to shit Haye which made people think he was good.

Take a look at the 2017 Bellew v Haye 1 thread where nearly all 42 posts state that Bellew is going to get smashed to pieces!

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 19:40

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 04:35

SAPFO wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023, 04:10 I like how honest he is regarding the David Haye he beat. Somebody asked him in the jungle, and he said no, no David Haye was a much better fighter than me. He is coming across very well.

Then he got asked, if he beat him, hows Haye better.

He said style of fights, then gave a footy example.

If Exeter beat Man utd or Liverpool, does that make them better?

Fairplay to him for that, having beaten Haye twice he'd be perfectly entitled to brag about it.

It shows a degree of class that wasn't always evident in his younger days although tbf that's a charge that can be levelled at many of us

big lennox wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 08:40 I respectfully disagree with Bellew on this point. It's not a case of styles make fights etc.

Bellew beat a Lame version of Haye who only had the full use of one leg.

Prime Haye would have got Bellew out of there inside a round, or two rounds worst case scenario.

Monzon83 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 11:11 Can’t stand this bloke, he’s like every worst stereotype of the scouse gobshite.

Didn’t look that hard on the SAS show either..

big lennox wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 08:40 I respectfully disagree with Bellew on this point. It's not a case of styles make fights etc.

Bellew beat a Lame version of Haye who only had the full use of one leg.

Prime Haye would have got Bellew out of there inside a round, or two rounds worst case scenario.

Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 14:00 i quite like how he pressed farage without being righteous. actually held a conversation.

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 19:20

Steveh583 wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023, 14:00 i quite like how he pressed farage without being righteous. actually held a conversation.

missed this, what happened? not a Farage fan by any stretch so read the Michael Crick biography of him to understand him better, albeit via one lens (Crick's). How did the exchange play out?