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Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
This week I’ll have a check
Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
I will be at a minor league hockey playoff game during this show.
Far more appealing option than watching Garcia repeatedly turn his back to Haney until he decides to quit.
Far more appealing option than watching Garcia repeatedly turn his back to Haney until he decides to quit.
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Haney should take this but Garcia is dangerous here. Haney does not have Tank’s chin, nor power.
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Garcia is a mess. If this fight happens which is a big if, Haney stops him
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Here’s how the experts see it:
THE RING
DOUG FISCHER: HANEY UD
“It’s hard to have any confidence in Ryan Garcia given his non-stop social media shenanigans and self-created distractions since the two-city press tour for this fight took place in late February. Now, maybe he’s fooling us all and will somehow show up to put on the best performance of his career. Tyson Fury fooled a lot of fans and media going into his rematch with Deontay Wilder. So did Teofimo Lopez going into his showdown with Josh Taylor. Sometimes the “nutcase” knows what he’s doing. Sometimes the Joker is the King. However, unlike Wilder, Devin Haney is a well-rounded technician. Unlike Taylor, the 25-year-old junior welterweight beltholder isn’t inactive, weight-drained or battle-worn. And unlike Garcia, Haney’s got his head screwed on straight. He’s the most focused of the young lightweight/jr. welter cadre that includes Lopez, Tank Davis, and Shakur Stevenson. Haney is just now entering his physical prime and he does so with veteran-level experience. Having said that, I should also note that Garcia is only 25 and brings formidable physical tools to this matchup. His speed, power, height and reach will pose problems that grizzled vet Regis Prograis couldn’t inflict on Haney. I think Haney understands this and will thus box a careful and disciplined fight, which is why I think it will go the full 12.“
ANSON WAINWRIGHT: HANEY UD
“I strongly favor Haney, he’s coming in to this fight in great form having schooled Regis Prograis last time out, while Garcia has some issues with the smaller Oscar Duarte. I think Haney is by far the better fighter and is taking this fight seriously. On the other hand, we’ve seen Garcia messing around in training and also post some rather bizarre messages on social media that have people questioning his mental health. Boxing can be a lonely place and I think that all adds up to a Haney win. I think he’ll do what he usually does and dominate with the jab, he’ll slowly break Garcia down and possibly force a late stoppage or relatively wide 12-round unanimous decision.”
JAKE DONOVAN: HANEY UD
“Haney by comfortable decision. I feel like predicting any other outcome is allowing the promotion to con us to into believing the fight will play out any other way than expected on paper.”
LEE GROVES: HANEY UD
“As talented as Garcia is, Haney is far more experienced in terms of quality of opposition and experience under championship conditions. He is a young veteran with well-honed fundamentals and discipline while Garcia is a walking wild card whose left hook will present an element of danger for as long as the fight lasts. The guess is that this bout will go the distance with Haney emerging the winner by a comfortable margin.”
DIEGO MORILLA: GARCIA TKO 10
“As hard as it is to see a path for Garcia to win this, I believe he sees something in Haney that we don’t. Knowing him as he does from his amateur days, Garcia has all but begged for this fight, and there may be a reason for that. Haney always finds a way to win, but his dominance in the ring sometimes leads him to become overconfident, and all it could take for Garcia to win this is a single error from Haney. It may take time, but I am betting on that GPS-guided left hook to land sometime during the championship rounds to put Garcia in the superstardom realm that has eluded him so far.”
MARTY MULCAHEY: HANEY UD
“I am sure someone will mention this duo split their six amateur encounters, but while both have matured physically to near identical dimension Devin Haney has far surpassed Ryan Garcia in ring IQ and actual accomplishments. Garcia may have a slight advantage in handspeed and power, but Haney’s superior movement and sense of distance negates anything Garcia can throw at him. Most give the edge in power to Garcia (speed based not thudding power), but I see Haney as the more dominant physical force and he will start to use that from the fifth round on to wear Garcia down. Once Garcia slows down Haney will step up the pressure sweeping the last six rounds for an unequivocal unanimous decision victory or championship round knockout.”
RON BORGES: HANEY PTS
“Garcia will be dangerous for a while but Haney has too much of everything. Faster, better defense, steadier and more varied offense. Haney by decision.”
NORM FRAUENHEIM: HANEY UD
“It’s hard to know whether Ryan Garcia’s rants are an act or a troubling symptom of something else. But they are a sure sign of inconsistency — the polar opposite to Haney’s discipline, craftsmanship and maturity. He doesn’t make mistakes. Garcia does. Expect Garcia to overreach in an erratic attempt to entertain his social media audience with a huge upset. But social media is not a skillset, an advantage that Haney has sharpened and will continue to throughout a dominant scorecard victory.”
BOXING INSIDERS
DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): HANEY TKO
“Firstly, I’d like to say, I don’t think this fight should be taking place for obvious reasons. Garcia is in no fit state psychologically to compete at this level and is in danger of being seriously hurt. Let’s hope both fighters come out fit and healthy from this fight. Haney is the complete boxer and has too much of everything for Garcia, who has been exposed previously against Gervonta Davis and Haney are right up there on that level. Haney wins inside six rounds or Garcia quits inside eight rounds.”
STEVE FARHOOD (TV ANALYST): HANEY UD
“Haney is now an established 140-pounder. And more impressively, he established himself as such by shutting out an outstanding fighter in Regis Prograis. I doubt that anyone thought he’d handle Prograis so comprehensively. Garcia remains a threat because of his left hook, but Haney is a grade above. Haney by unanimous decision.”
TOM GRAY (FORMER MANAGING EDITOR FOR THE RING): HANEY TKO 9
“I’ve been skeptical about this fight taking place since it was officially announced and nothing’s changed. I’ll be watching this one through my fingers. Garcia’s persistent infatuation with social media has been alarming in the build-up. It’s obvious that the young Californian needs help with his own demons, but he’s also spent countless hours indulging in hot garbage. At what point was he focusing on the task at hand? Devin Haney is arguably the most gifted pure boxer in the sport today and he’s at the peak of his powers. “The Dream” is the consummate pro and he’ll be lining up his former amateur rival for a nightmare experience. I expect the usual blazing start from Garcia, but he’ll find out quickly that whacking mitts and whacking Haney are two completely different things. The champion is too quick to counter, his jab is artistry, and his timing will neutralize Garcia’s speed and power. I’ve been a fan of Garcia for years, but this will be a victory for professionalism and it’ll hopefully be a lesson to the Twitter (X) Spaces generation: Focus on your job or pay the price.”
JOE ROTONDA (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): HANEY UD
“Both of their careers seem to be heading in opposite directions. Devin Haney has put legitimate wins together against elite opposition; Regis Prograis, Lomachenko, etc, and looked good for the most part. Ryan Garcia, though he only has one career loss, did not look impressive in his most recent outing against Oscar Duarte. At only 25-years-old, I think we have unfortunately seen the best of Garcia, but I do hope I am wrong on that because I am a fan of the kid. With that being said, I think Haney is truly getting better and this fight will be no different, he will cruise to a decision win over Garcia.”
ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER): DRAW
“Great to see the current generation of talent willing to face each other. I believe this is a major step forward and reminisce to the good old days. This fight is very intriguing and of course there is a history between them, they are both very talented and gifted athletes which makes this fight that more interesting, however the paths taken have not been the same and that is what gives the edge to Haney in this bout. I believe in Ryan and know of his abilities but would have preferred a couple more fights in with [trainer] Derrick [James], a couple more fights at the weight but more importantly to be consistently active before facing someone that has been as active as Haney. The momentum favors Haney; however, Ryan can end that quickly with his speed and power. In the end, I see a very entertaining fight on April 20th and one that will leave the fans wanting No. 8 (They fought six times as amateurs). The winner is boxing! Let’s do No. 8.”
RICH MAROTTA (COMMENTATOR): HANEY PTS
“Haney-Garcia has the potential of being a really interesting scrap. Both fighters are in their prime, Haney is a bit more skilled and I think Ryan punches the harder. However, in terms of focus and mental preparation, Devin is miles ahead. Garcia has been all over the place with his outrageous comments and behavior. There have been times I thought he was on the way to some kind of meltdown, maybe even in the ring like Oliver McCall. I am also suspicious of his training regimen. With all that to factor in, I’m looking for a competitive four or five rounds and then Haney to dominate the rest of way and win a solid decision.”
JOLENE MIZZONE (MANAGER): HANEY UD
“As much as I like Garcia and my heart wants to go for him and Derrick James, I just think that Haney is the better boxer, I tend to go for the boxer. I think that Haney with his boxing skills is going to take away Ryan’s power and make it harder for Ryan to connect. At the end of the day, I hope both guys put on a great performance so this division can see more great fights!”
MARC RAMSAY (TRAINER): HANEY TKO 9
“I’d be really surprised if this fight was competitive. Despite all the talent that García seems to have, I think that his loss at the hands of Gervonta Davis has left a lot of questions unanswered about his real potential. One year later with only one fight against Oscar Duarte, I’m not sure he’s been able to change to the point of challenging someone as effective as Haney. I see dominance from start to finish by Haney with possibly a TKO in the second part of the fight.”
RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): HANEY UD
“They both know each other very well from their amateur fights. I think it will be a competitive fight. Haney has developed into a much better well-rounded fighter in pros. He is a different level. Ryan does have a puncher’s chance. But I’m going with Haney by unanimous decision.”
JOHN SCULLY (TRAINER): HANEY UD
“I just feel this is Haney’s time, and he is approaching his prime, if he is not already in it. His superior speed and boxing ability should absolutely be the difference on his way to a unanimous 12-round decision.”
BOB SANTOS (TRAINER): HANEY PTS
“I think this one is pretty cut and dry. I think Haney is going to give Garcia problems with angles and out boxes him but Ryan has great hand speed and if he can catch Haney and hurt him then it’ll change the dynamic of the fight. The question is can he land that punch? It’s hard to beat elite fighters if you’re a one trick pony. Ryan can be all over the map mentally but he’s got to know if he quits in this one that could be a career ender and Haney is not a big puncher. I’m going to hedge my bet that Garcia’s going to do whatever it takes to go the distance.”
RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): HANEY PTS
“Interesting fight. Finally a boxing match with 50/50 type of fight. Both have skills, but Garcia a bit more power. This fight can play out two ways. One: a boxing match, which I see happening. Haney by unanimous decision in a close fight. And two: Garcia gets greedy and isn’t respecting Haney and is shooting for the knockout, that’s the fight I would love to see but Garcia can be to passive. If Garcia goes in the ring to fight and take no prisoners, we’ll have a great, great fight. I’m dreaming awake (laughs.) Haney in a close fight by decision.”
Final Tally: Haney 18-1-1
THE RING
DOUG FISCHER: HANEY UD
“It’s hard to have any confidence in Ryan Garcia given his non-stop social media shenanigans and self-created distractions since the two-city press tour for this fight took place in late February. Now, maybe he’s fooling us all and will somehow show up to put on the best performance of his career. Tyson Fury fooled a lot of fans and media going into his rematch with Deontay Wilder. So did Teofimo Lopez going into his showdown with Josh Taylor. Sometimes the “nutcase” knows what he’s doing. Sometimes the Joker is the King. However, unlike Wilder, Devin Haney is a well-rounded technician. Unlike Taylor, the 25-year-old junior welterweight beltholder isn’t inactive, weight-drained or battle-worn. And unlike Garcia, Haney’s got his head screwed on straight. He’s the most focused of the young lightweight/jr. welter cadre that includes Lopez, Tank Davis, and Shakur Stevenson. Haney is just now entering his physical prime and he does so with veteran-level experience. Having said that, I should also note that Garcia is only 25 and brings formidable physical tools to this matchup. His speed, power, height and reach will pose problems that grizzled vet Regis Prograis couldn’t inflict on Haney. I think Haney understands this and will thus box a careful and disciplined fight, which is why I think it will go the full 12.“
ANSON WAINWRIGHT: HANEY UD
“I strongly favor Haney, he’s coming in to this fight in great form having schooled Regis Prograis last time out, while Garcia has some issues with the smaller Oscar Duarte. I think Haney is by far the better fighter and is taking this fight seriously. On the other hand, we’ve seen Garcia messing around in training and also post some rather bizarre messages on social media that have people questioning his mental health. Boxing can be a lonely place and I think that all adds up to a Haney win. I think he’ll do what he usually does and dominate with the jab, he’ll slowly break Garcia down and possibly force a late stoppage or relatively wide 12-round unanimous decision.”
JAKE DONOVAN: HANEY UD
“Haney by comfortable decision. I feel like predicting any other outcome is allowing the promotion to con us to into believing the fight will play out any other way than expected on paper.”
LEE GROVES: HANEY UD
“As talented as Garcia is, Haney is far more experienced in terms of quality of opposition and experience under championship conditions. He is a young veteran with well-honed fundamentals and discipline while Garcia is a walking wild card whose left hook will present an element of danger for as long as the fight lasts. The guess is that this bout will go the distance with Haney emerging the winner by a comfortable margin.”
DIEGO MORILLA: GARCIA TKO 10
“As hard as it is to see a path for Garcia to win this, I believe he sees something in Haney that we don’t. Knowing him as he does from his amateur days, Garcia has all but begged for this fight, and there may be a reason for that. Haney always finds a way to win, but his dominance in the ring sometimes leads him to become overconfident, and all it could take for Garcia to win this is a single error from Haney. It may take time, but I am betting on that GPS-guided left hook to land sometime during the championship rounds to put Garcia in the superstardom realm that has eluded him so far.”
MARTY MULCAHEY: HANEY UD
“I am sure someone will mention this duo split their six amateur encounters, but while both have matured physically to near identical dimension Devin Haney has far surpassed Ryan Garcia in ring IQ and actual accomplishments. Garcia may have a slight advantage in handspeed and power, but Haney’s superior movement and sense of distance negates anything Garcia can throw at him. Most give the edge in power to Garcia (speed based not thudding power), but I see Haney as the more dominant physical force and he will start to use that from the fifth round on to wear Garcia down. Once Garcia slows down Haney will step up the pressure sweeping the last six rounds for an unequivocal unanimous decision victory or championship round knockout.”
RON BORGES: HANEY PTS
“Garcia will be dangerous for a while but Haney has too much of everything. Faster, better defense, steadier and more varied offense. Haney by decision.”
NORM FRAUENHEIM: HANEY UD
“It’s hard to know whether Ryan Garcia’s rants are an act or a troubling symptom of something else. But they are a sure sign of inconsistency — the polar opposite to Haney’s discipline, craftsmanship and maturity. He doesn’t make mistakes. Garcia does. Expect Garcia to overreach in an erratic attempt to entertain his social media audience with a huge upset. But social media is not a skillset, an advantage that Haney has sharpened and will continue to throughout a dominant scorecard victory.”
BOXING INSIDERS
DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): HANEY TKO
“Firstly, I’d like to say, I don’t think this fight should be taking place for obvious reasons. Garcia is in no fit state psychologically to compete at this level and is in danger of being seriously hurt. Let’s hope both fighters come out fit and healthy from this fight. Haney is the complete boxer and has too much of everything for Garcia, who has been exposed previously against Gervonta Davis and Haney are right up there on that level. Haney wins inside six rounds or Garcia quits inside eight rounds.”
STEVE FARHOOD (TV ANALYST): HANEY UD
“Haney is now an established 140-pounder. And more impressively, he established himself as such by shutting out an outstanding fighter in Regis Prograis. I doubt that anyone thought he’d handle Prograis so comprehensively. Garcia remains a threat because of his left hook, but Haney is a grade above. Haney by unanimous decision.”
TOM GRAY (FORMER MANAGING EDITOR FOR THE RING): HANEY TKO 9
“I’ve been skeptical about this fight taking place since it was officially announced and nothing’s changed. I’ll be watching this one through my fingers. Garcia’s persistent infatuation with social media has been alarming in the build-up. It’s obvious that the young Californian needs help with his own demons, but he’s also spent countless hours indulging in hot garbage. At what point was he focusing on the task at hand? Devin Haney is arguably the most gifted pure boxer in the sport today and he’s at the peak of his powers. “The Dream” is the consummate pro and he’ll be lining up his former amateur rival for a nightmare experience. I expect the usual blazing start from Garcia, but he’ll find out quickly that whacking mitts and whacking Haney are two completely different things. The champion is too quick to counter, his jab is artistry, and his timing will neutralize Garcia’s speed and power. I’ve been a fan of Garcia for years, but this will be a victory for professionalism and it’ll hopefully be a lesson to the Twitter (X) Spaces generation: Focus on your job or pay the price.”
JOE ROTONDA (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): HANEY UD
“Both of their careers seem to be heading in opposite directions. Devin Haney has put legitimate wins together against elite opposition; Regis Prograis, Lomachenko, etc, and looked good for the most part. Ryan Garcia, though he only has one career loss, did not look impressive in his most recent outing against Oscar Duarte. At only 25-years-old, I think we have unfortunately seen the best of Garcia, but I do hope I am wrong on that because I am a fan of the kid. With that being said, I think Haney is truly getting better and this fight will be no different, he will cruise to a decision win over Garcia.”
ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER): DRAW
“Great to see the current generation of talent willing to face each other. I believe this is a major step forward and reminisce to the good old days. This fight is very intriguing and of course there is a history between them, they are both very talented and gifted athletes which makes this fight that more interesting, however the paths taken have not been the same and that is what gives the edge to Haney in this bout. I believe in Ryan and know of his abilities but would have preferred a couple more fights in with [trainer] Derrick [James], a couple more fights at the weight but more importantly to be consistently active before facing someone that has been as active as Haney. The momentum favors Haney; however, Ryan can end that quickly with his speed and power. In the end, I see a very entertaining fight on April 20th and one that will leave the fans wanting No. 8 (They fought six times as amateurs). The winner is boxing! Let’s do No. 8.”
RICH MAROTTA (COMMENTATOR): HANEY PTS
“Haney-Garcia has the potential of being a really interesting scrap. Both fighters are in their prime, Haney is a bit more skilled and I think Ryan punches the harder. However, in terms of focus and mental preparation, Devin is miles ahead. Garcia has been all over the place with his outrageous comments and behavior. There have been times I thought he was on the way to some kind of meltdown, maybe even in the ring like Oliver McCall. I am also suspicious of his training regimen. With all that to factor in, I’m looking for a competitive four or five rounds and then Haney to dominate the rest of way and win a solid decision.”
JOLENE MIZZONE (MANAGER): HANEY UD
“As much as I like Garcia and my heart wants to go for him and Derrick James, I just think that Haney is the better boxer, I tend to go for the boxer. I think that Haney with his boxing skills is going to take away Ryan’s power and make it harder for Ryan to connect. At the end of the day, I hope both guys put on a great performance so this division can see more great fights!”
MARC RAMSAY (TRAINER): HANEY TKO 9
“I’d be really surprised if this fight was competitive. Despite all the talent that García seems to have, I think that his loss at the hands of Gervonta Davis has left a lot of questions unanswered about his real potential. One year later with only one fight against Oscar Duarte, I’m not sure he’s been able to change to the point of challenging someone as effective as Haney. I see dominance from start to finish by Haney with possibly a TKO in the second part of the fight.”
RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): HANEY UD
“They both know each other very well from their amateur fights. I think it will be a competitive fight. Haney has developed into a much better well-rounded fighter in pros. He is a different level. Ryan does have a puncher’s chance. But I’m going with Haney by unanimous decision.”
JOHN SCULLY (TRAINER): HANEY UD
“I just feel this is Haney’s time, and he is approaching his prime, if he is not already in it. His superior speed and boxing ability should absolutely be the difference on his way to a unanimous 12-round decision.”
BOB SANTOS (TRAINER): HANEY PTS
“I think this one is pretty cut and dry. I think Haney is going to give Garcia problems with angles and out boxes him but Ryan has great hand speed and if he can catch Haney and hurt him then it’ll change the dynamic of the fight. The question is can he land that punch? It’s hard to beat elite fighters if you’re a one trick pony. Ryan can be all over the map mentally but he’s got to know if he quits in this one that could be a career ender and Haney is not a big puncher. I’m going to hedge my bet that Garcia’s going to do whatever it takes to go the distance.”
RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): HANEY PTS
“Interesting fight. Finally a boxing match with 50/50 type of fight. Both have skills, but Garcia a bit more power. This fight can play out two ways. One: a boxing match, which I see happening. Haney by unanimous decision in a close fight. And two: Garcia gets greedy and isn’t respecting Haney and is shooting for the knockout, that’s the fight I would love to see but Garcia can be to passive. If Garcia goes in the ring to fight and take no prisoners, we’ll have a great, great fight. I’m dreaming awake (laughs.) Haney in a close fight by decision.”
Final Tally: Haney 18-1-1
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
I do not think Garcia is anything too special.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑17 Apr 2024, 04:03 Here’s how the experts see it:
THE RING
DOUG FISCHER: HANEY UD
“It’s hard to have any confidence in Ryan Garcia given his non-stop social media shenanigans and self-created distractions since the two-city press tour for this fight took place in late February. Now, maybe he’s fooling us all and will somehow show up to put on the best performance of his career. Tyson Fury fooled a lot of fans and media going into his rematch with Deontay Wilder. So did Teofimo Lopez going into his showdown with Josh Taylor. Sometimes the “nutcase” knows what he’s doing. Sometimes the Joker is the King. However, unlike Wilder, Devin Haney is a well-rounded technician. Unlike Taylor, the 25-year-old junior welterweight beltholder isn’t inactive, weight-drained or battle-worn. And unlike Garcia, Haney’s got his head screwed on straight. He’s the most focused of the young lightweight/jr. welter cadre that includes Lopez, Tank Davis, and Shakur Stevenson. Haney is just now entering his physical prime and he does so with veteran-level experience. Having said that, I should also note that Garcia is only 25 and brings formidable physical tools to this matchup. His speed, power, height and reach will pose problems that grizzled vet Regis Prograis couldn’t inflict on Haney. I think Haney understands this and will thus box a careful and disciplined fight, which is why I think it will go the full 12.“
ANSON WAINWRIGHT: HANEY UD
“I strongly favor Haney, he’s coming in to this fight in great form having schooled Regis Prograis last time out, while Garcia has some issues with the smaller Oscar Duarte. I think Haney is by far the better fighter and is taking this fight seriously. On the other hand, we’ve seen Garcia messing around in training and also post some rather bizarre messages on social media that have people questioning his mental health. Boxing can be a lonely place and I think that all adds up to a Haney win. I think he’ll do what he usually does and dominate with the jab, he’ll slowly break Garcia down and possibly force a late stoppage or relatively wide 12-round unanimous decision.”
JAKE DONOVAN: HANEY UD
“Haney by comfortable decision. I feel like predicting any other outcome is allowing the promotion to con us to into believing the fight will play out any other way than expected on paper.”
LEE GROVES: HANEY UD
“As talented as Garcia is, Haney is far more experienced in terms of quality of opposition and experience under championship conditions. He is a young veteran with well-honed fundamentals and discipline while Garcia is a walking wild card whose left hook will present an element of danger for as long as the fight lasts. The guess is that this bout will go the distance with Haney emerging the winner by a comfortable margin.”
DIEGO MORILLA: GARCIA TKO 10
“As hard as it is to see a path for Garcia to win this, I believe he sees something in Haney that we don’t. Knowing him as he does from his amateur days, Garcia has all but begged for this fight, and there may be a reason for that. Haney always finds a way to win, but his dominance in the ring sometimes leads him to become overconfident, and all it could take for Garcia to win this is a single error from Haney. It may take time, but I am betting on that GPS-guided left hook to land sometime during the championship rounds to put Garcia in the superstardom realm that has eluded him so far.”
MARTY MULCAHEY: HANEY UD
“I am sure someone will mention this duo split their six amateur encounters, but while both have matured physically to near identical dimension Devin Haney has far surpassed Ryan Garcia in ring IQ and actual accomplishments. Garcia may have a slight advantage in handspeed and power, but Haney’s superior movement and sense of distance negates anything Garcia can throw at him. Most give the edge in power to Garcia (speed based not thudding power), but I see Haney as the more dominant physical force and he will start to use that from the fifth round on to wear Garcia down. Once Garcia slows down Haney will step up the pressure sweeping the last six rounds for an unequivocal unanimous decision victory or championship round knockout.”
RON BORGES: HANEY PTS
“Garcia will be dangerous for a while but Haney has too much of everything. Faster, better defense, steadier and more varied offense. Haney by decision.”
NORM FRAUENHEIM: HANEY UD
“It’s hard to know whether Ryan Garcia’s rants are an act or a troubling symptom of something else. But they are a sure sign of inconsistency — the polar opposite to Haney’s discipline, craftsmanship and maturity. He doesn’t make mistakes. Garcia does. Expect Garcia to overreach in an erratic attempt to entertain his social media audience with a huge upset. But social media is not a skillset, an advantage that Haney has sharpened and will continue to throughout a dominant scorecard victory.”
BOXING INSIDERS
DUKE MCKENZIE (FORMER THREE-DIVISION TITLEHOLDER/TV ANALYST): HANEY TKO
“Firstly, I’d like to say, I don’t think this fight should be taking place for obvious reasons. Garcia is in no fit state psychologically to compete at this level and is in danger of being seriously hurt. Let’s hope both fighters come out fit and healthy from this fight. Haney is the complete boxer and has too much of everything for Garcia, who has been exposed previously against Gervonta Davis and Haney are right up there on that level. Haney wins inside six rounds or Garcia quits inside eight rounds.”
STEVE FARHOOD (TV ANALYST): HANEY UD
“Haney is now an established 140-pounder. And more impressively, he established himself as such by shutting out an outstanding fighter in Regis Prograis. I doubt that anyone thought he’d handle Prograis so comprehensively. Garcia remains a threat because of his left hook, but Haney is a grade above. Haney by unanimous decision.”
TOM GRAY (FORMER MANAGING EDITOR FOR THE RING): HANEY TKO 9
“I’ve been skeptical about this fight taking place since it was officially announced and nothing’s changed. I’ll be watching this one through my fingers. Garcia’s persistent infatuation with social media has been alarming in the build-up. It’s obvious that the young Californian needs help with his own demons, but he’s also spent countless hours indulging in hot garbage. At what point was he focusing on the task at hand? Devin Haney is arguably the most gifted pure boxer in the sport today and he’s at the peak of his powers. “The Dream” is the consummate pro and he’ll be lining up his former amateur rival for a nightmare experience. I expect the usual blazing start from Garcia, but he’ll find out quickly that whacking mitts and whacking Haney are two completely different things. The champion is too quick to counter, his jab is artistry, and his timing will neutralize Garcia’s speed and power. I’ve been a fan of Garcia for years, but this will be a victory for professionalism and it’ll hopefully be a lesson to the Twitter (X) Spaces generation: Focus on your job or pay the price.”
JOE ROTONDA (MATCHMAKER, MAIN EVENTS): HANEY UD
“Both of their careers seem to be heading in opposite directions. Devin Haney has put legitimate wins together against elite opposition; Regis Prograis, Lomachenko, etc, and looked good for the most part. Ryan Garcia, though he only has one career loss, did not look impressive in his most recent outing against Oscar Duarte. At only 25-years-old, I think we have unfortunately seen the best of Garcia, but I do hope I am wrong on that because I am a fan of the kid. With that being said, I think Haney is truly getting better and this fight will be no different, he will cruise to a decision win over Garcia.”
ROBERT DIAZ (MATCHMAKER): DRAW
“Great to see the current generation of talent willing to face each other. I believe this is a major step forward and reminisce to the good old days. This fight is very intriguing and of course there is a history between them, they are both very talented and gifted athletes which makes this fight that more interesting, however the paths taken have not been the same and that is what gives the edge to Haney in this bout. I believe in Ryan and know of his abilities but would have preferred a couple more fights in with [trainer] Derrick [James], a couple more fights at the weight but more importantly to be consistently active before facing someone that has been as active as Haney. The momentum favors Haney; however, Ryan can end that quickly with his speed and power. In the end, I see a very entertaining fight on April 20th and one that will leave the fans wanting No. 8 (They fought six times as amateurs). The winner is boxing! Let’s do No. 8.”
RICH MAROTTA (COMMENTATOR): HANEY PTS
“Haney-Garcia has the potential of being a really interesting scrap. Both fighters are in their prime, Haney is a bit more skilled and I think Ryan punches the harder. However, in terms of focus and mental preparation, Devin is miles ahead. Garcia has been all over the place with his outrageous comments and behavior. There have been times I thought he was on the way to some kind of meltdown, maybe even in the ring like Oliver McCall. I am also suspicious of his training regimen. With all that to factor in, I’m looking for a competitive four or five rounds and then Haney to dominate the rest of way and win a solid decision.”
JOLENE MIZZONE (MANAGER): HANEY UD
“As much as I like Garcia and my heart wants to go for him and Derrick James, I just think that Haney is the better boxer, I tend to go for the boxer. I think that Haney with his boxing skills is going to take away Ryan’s power and make it harder for Ryan to connect. At the end of the day, I hope both guys put on a great performance so this division can see more great fights!”
MARC RAMSAY (TRAINER): HANEY TKO 9
“I’d be really surprised if this fight was competitive. Despite all the talent that García seems to have, I think that his loss at the hands of Gervonta Davis has left a lot of questions unanswered about his real potential. One year later with only one fight against Oscar Duarte, I’m not sure he’s been able to change to the point of challenging someone as effective as Haney. I see dominance from start to finish by Haney with possibly a TKO in the second part of the fight.”
RAUL MARQUEZ (FORMER WORLD CHAMPION/COMMENTATOR): HANEY UD
“They both know each other very well from their amateur fights. I think it will be a competitive fight. Haney has developed into a much better well-rounded fighter in pros. He is a different level. Ryan does have a puncher’s chance. But I’m going with Haney by unanimous decision.”
JOHN SCULLY (TRAINER): HANEY UD
“I just feel this is Haney’s time, and he is approaching his prime, if he is not already in it. His superior speed and boxing ability should absolutely be the difference on his way to a unanimous 12-round decision.”
BOB SANTOS (TRAINER): HANEY PTS
“I think this one is pretty cut and dry. I think Haney is going to give Garcia problems with angles and out boxes him but Ryan has great hand speed and if he can catch Haney and hurt him then it’ll change the dynamic of the fight. The question is can he land that punch? It’s hard to beat elite fighters if you’re a one trick pony. Ryan can be all over the map mentally but he’s got to know if he quits in this one that could be a career ender and Haney is not a big puncher. I’m going to hedge my bet that Garcia’s going to do whatever it takes to go the distance.”
RUDY HERNANDEZ (TRAINER): HANEY PTS
“Interesting fight. Finally a boxing match with 50/50 type of fight. Both have skills, but Garcia a bit more power. This fight can play out two ways. One: a boxing match, which I see happening. Haney by unanimous decision in a close fight. And two: Garcia gets greedy and isn’t respecting Haney and is shooting for the knockout, that’s the fight I would love to see but Garcia can be to passive. If Garcia goes in the ring to fight and take no prisoners, we’ll have a great, great fight. I’m dreaming awake (laughs.) Haney in a close fight by decision.”
Final Tally: Haney 18-1-1
Haney wins very comfortable decision
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gregregegg
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
I weirdly kinda like Garcia by KO… I mean at 10/1 I really like it..
Both are very fast. Haney is technicaly much better, Garcia hits way harder.
Unless Haney absolutely schools him for 12 rounds I don’t know how Haney will feel when he gets tagged. Feel like Garcia can take 2 to get 1..
Haney UD would probably be most likely outcome… but I really wouldn’t be shocked if Garcia wins hurts haney and wins.
Both are very fast. Haney is technicaly much better, Garcia hits way harder.
Unless Haney absolutely schools him for 12 rounds I don’t know how Haney will feel when he gets tagged. Feel like Garcia can take 2 to get 1..
Haney UD would probably be most likely outcome… but I really wouldn’t be shocked if Garcia wins hurts haney and wins.
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Les Norton
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
I will doubt that this fight even takes place until the ring announcer introduces them.
Will Garcia withdraw, claim he needs to go to rehab, miss the weight???
I hope it’s false worry because I want to see it
Will Garcia withdraw, claim he needs to go to rehab, miss the weight???
I hope it’s false worry because I want to see it
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robbydecker
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
This is actually a reasonable prediction even though the vast majority of """boxing experts""" are predicting Haney to take it, and fairly easy at that as well.gregregegg wrote: ↑17 Apr 2024, 22:50 I weirdly kinda like Garcia by KO… I mean at 10/1 I really like it..
Both are very fast. Haney is technicaly much better, Garcia hits way harder.
Unless Haney absolutely schools him for 12 rounds I don’t know how Haney will feel when he gets tagged. Feel like Garcia can take 2 to get 1..
Haney UD would probably be most likely outcome… but I really wouldn’t be shocked if Garcia wins hurts haney and wins.
"Boxing Experts" have been wrong, and Way Off Level Wrong, and this could very well be one of them times.
Wasn't Fulton heavily favored to beat Inoue..?!
Personally, I'm seeing a high likelihood of a Draw, for some reason.
I just don't see how Haney will utterly dominate Garcia.
They fought 6 times vs one another in the amateurs. Thus, Garcia already has a good idea of what to expect from Haney.
Also, Garcia is physically Bigger than Haney, at least by way of Boxing Terms he is.
Now If they were wrestling, well then, I guess I'd have to then say that Haney is a tad bit bigger, in terms of being a grappler.
Basically, in an mma bout, either one could be considered slightly bigger than the other(Depending on whether it's a ground dominated match, or a stand-up dominated match.
I see Haney having issues with a considerably bigger opponent than he's used to facing, at least in recent times.
Yes, he obviously knows Garcia quite well from they're amateur bouts vs one another, but Haney's been fighting smaller guys in recent times. Kambo, Loma, and Regis. They're all quite a bit smaller(In boxing terms), than Garcia. All three of them fellows have a stubby arm reach compared to Garcia. Loma is a 5'6-1/8" 65" t-rex reach, natural featherweight, and he gave Haney all kinds of fits, and wouldn't have lost that last round if he were a few years younger. Thus, it would've been a draw if he didn't lose that last round. A younger Loma would've won the last 2 or 3 rounds of they're bout, and thus won the decision, but he had already become old (Around the time of the Teo bout). Again also, we're talking about a natural 126 guy, with a stubby arm reach. Yet he was finding and tagging Haney quite often. And getting hit clean, and not even being close to being staggered/stunned.
Kamboses of course is merely a one dimensional brave brawler. An obviously limited and very predictable type of boxer.
Of course Haney was going to easily handle him in the ring. Of course nothing was going to change in they're rematch.
Kamboses is Actually pretty similar to Arturo Gatti, as far as his technique and approach to Boxing.
Regis was just cashing out versus Haney. It's So Obvious.
All's he seemed to have left in him was that Haymaker overhand Left.
He obviously became old after the Taylor bout.
He just Needed to make some more retirement money, by the time he was getting ready to face Haney.
Ryan Garcia """Should""" be able to bore in willfully and brawl relentlessly, without any serious consequences versus Haney.
He won't have to fight very carefully versus Haney.
Ryan will likely establish himself as the bigger stronger guy, definitely by the second round.
Haney will be trying to clinch, definitely by the second round, but it won't be nearly as effective as it was versus Lomachenko.
Ryan is too big and strong for Haney to play the clinch-game. He's going to inevitably be forced to Brawl.
Haney Will utilize his boxing skills, as much as he can, but I think that Ryan is quick enough to find his spots versus Haney.
This will likely be a very competitive and riveting bout.
Ryan might catch Haney and knock him down, but I see Haney actually being quite resilient and battling onwards.
I'm seeing a 115-115, 115-114, 114-114 Majority Draw for some reason.
This will make both Boxers a bigger draw, with many a boxing fan.
Both will become more respected than ever before.
Of course, These are Only merely my own personal pre bout speculations, based out of my uniquely derived boxing fan mind though, of course.
Just like The Experts, with they're own uniquely derived personal minded pre bout speculations.
It Will be very frustrating to watch though, if Ryan is clearly nothing more than a disappointing dysfunctional headcase in the boxing ring.
We'll soon see.
Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
I honestly can't work out if Garcia needs to be sectioned or he's trying to sell the fight. He's claimed mental health issues before and there was the mental health checkup requested for him which suggest he's not doing great right now but he also looks like he's getting himself out there. His activity has been bizarre but has ramped up the closer and closer the fight gets. I think he loses decisively but they gotta make sure the guy is ok after this if he's already suffering from issues before the fight has even started. However I can see him and Haney getting on quite well after this weirdly.
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Garcia is this generations mayorga only not as good. I expect him to lose bigly
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
garcia's best win still luke campy?
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Yes and didn luke drop him?
Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
There might be some theatrics I wouldn't count it out.
Haney looks solid boxing wise, not sure how Garcia derails it over 12.
Haney looks solid boxing wise, not sure how Garcia derails it over 12.
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gregregegg
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Lukey dropped him, but wasn’t particularly hurt.. then Garcia got one of the best KOs I have seen, so wouldn’t say it was a bad showing.
Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
It should kick off early.
It's Garcia's best chance to win the fight.
Longer it goes you know how it'll play out
It's Garcia's best chance to win the fight.
Longer it goes you know how it'll play out
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
eh, garcia has kinda bored me the last while, not showing enough in the ring to get the blood flowing as some sort of eventual p4p superstar fighter he used to be hyped as. i think at best for him he hurts haney but otherwise loses wide
Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Garcia has been pulling all kinds of stunts.
I think he's embarking on a movie career.
I think he's embarking on a movie career.
Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
Ryan weighed in 3.2 lbs over and has agreed to pay $500k per pound to Haney as was their pre-fight agreement. Why did he make that agreement if he was going to be over? Especially against his Dad's advice.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Devin Haney vs. Ryan Garcia | DAZN PPV - April 20, 2024
sweet deal for dev, get $1.5m by your opponent having no discipline 