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Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 06:42
by jwfg
forcefraser wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:38
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 05:54
It’s a shame that Froch never wanted to rematch Andre Ward.
It wasn`t Froch who called for a fight though was it. It was Big John.
Froch stated many times that he want the Ward rematch. Dre didn't want it in the UK and who can blame him,.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 07:17
by coneye
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 05:54
It’s a shame that Froch never wanted to rematch Andre Ward.
Thats a pissweak comeback , C,mon John you can do better than that .
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 08:19
by BigDoofus
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:41
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 05:54
It’s a shame that Froch never wanted to rematch Andre Ward.
Its irrelevant to this but they offered Ward the fight in the UK quite a few times.
Given that Joshua is given a pass for turning down $50m to fight Wilder, please provide details of these “offers”?
Dates? Venues? Purses? Contracts?
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 08:21
by BigDoofus
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:42
forcefraser wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:38
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 05:54
It’s a shame that Froch never wanted to rematch Andre Ward.
It wasn`t Froch who called for a fight though was it. It was Big John.
Froch stated many times that he want the Ward rematch. Dre didn't want it in the UK and who can blame him,.
Ward was openly campaigning for it.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... -a-rematch
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 08:55
by samwbr
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:19
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:41
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 05:54
It’s a shame that Froch never wanted to rematch Andre Ward.
Its irrelevant to this but they offered Ward the fight in the UK quite a few times.
Given that Joshua is given a pass for turning down $50m to fight Wilder, please provide details of these “offers”?
Dates? Venues? Purses? Contracts?
How would they have those discussions if Ward was saying no from the outset? And its totally irrelevant to this thing with Froch but you know that and are deflecting.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 09:05
by jwfg
So was Froch. What's your point?
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 09:23
by SeanBrennan
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:05
So was Froch. What's your point?
He's deflecting isn't he.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 09:39
by BigDoofus
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:55
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:19
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:41
Its irrelevant to this but they offered Ward the fight in the UK quite a few times.
Given that Joshua is given a pass for turning down $50m to fight Wilder, please provide details of these “offers”?
Dates? Venues? Purses? Contracts?
How would they have those discussions if Ward was saying no from the outset? And its totally irrelevant to this thing with Froch but you know that and are deflecting.
You claimed that Ward was offered the fight “a few times“ but are unable to provide details of any offers.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 09:46
by jwfg
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:23
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:05
So was Froch. What's your point?
He's deflecting isn't he.
Like the bullying infant he is.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 10:00
by samwbr
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:39
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:55
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:19
Given that Joshua is given a pass for turning down $50m to fight Wilder, please provide details of these “offers”?
Dates? Venues? Purses? Contracts?
How would they have those discussions if Ward was saying no from the outset? And its totally irrelevant to this thing with Froch but you know that and are deflecting.
You claimed that Ward was offered the fight “a few times“ but are unable to provide details of any offers.
They were at each other on twitter and in the media frequently, Froch offered it after he beat Kessler in the rematch to his face.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 10:16
by si7dog7
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:19
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 06:41
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 05:54
It’s a shame that Froch never wanted to rematch Andre Ward.
Its irrelevant to this but they offered Ward the fight in the UK quite a few times.
Given that Joshua is given a pass for turning down $50m to fight Wilder, please provide details of these “offers”?
Dates? Venues? Purses? Contracts?
Stop deflecting
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 10:37
by jwfg
Classic Doofus. Somehow turning this into more AJ hate.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 10:42
by SeanBrennan
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:37
Classic Doofus. Somehow turning this into more AJ hate.
his name is very apt tbf. Or possibly Deflectus
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 10:50
by jwfg
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:42
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:37
Classic Doofus. Somehow turning this into more AJ hate.
his name is very apt tbf. Or possibly Deflectus
It doesn't matter that Wilder and Fury were both offered the AJ fight by Matchroom at different points in their career. It doesn't matter at all, because BigBullyDeflectus will never acknowledge that.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 10:54
by BigDoofus
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:00
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:39
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 08:55
How would they have those discussions if Ward was saying no from the outset? And its totally irrelevant to this thing with Froch but you know that and are deflecting.
You claimed that Ward was offered the fight “a few times“ but are unable to provide details of any offers.
They were at each other on twitter and in the media frequently, Froch offered it after he beat Kessler in the rematch to his face.
So Froch spoke about it? What did his promoter offer Ward?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
When were all the other “offers”?
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:01
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:54
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:00
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:39
You claimed that Ward was offered the fight “a few times“ but are unable to provide details of any offers.
They were at each other on twitter and in the media frequently, Froch offered it after he beat Kessler in the rematch to his face.
So Froch spoke about it? What did his promoter offer Ward?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
When were all the other “offers”?
What did Ward's promoter offer Froch?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:04
by si7dog7
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:50
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:42
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:37
Classic Doofus. Somehow turning this into more AJ hate.
his name is very apt tbf. Or possibly Deflectus
It doesn't matter that Wilder and Fury were both offered the AJ fight by Matchroom at different points in their career. It doesn't matter at all, because BigBullyDeflectus will never acknowledge that.
BigBullyDeflectus is very apt.
I suppose we could all jump on this bus as we all know his boy Luke wanted no more part of John McDermott and don’t even start with old man Wlad and what happened to that “rematch”.
Seems rematches are insisted upon nowadays.
Back to the thread though. Think Carl Froch pretty much owns this now.
Hope that’s the last we hear of this old fella calling people out left right and centre.
Beyond embarrassing. It’s like Cannonball Lee out of The Krays film. Mind you at least that character got in the ring. (Shhh it’s make believe BigBullyDeflectus)
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:07
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:04
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:50
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:42
his name is very apt tbf. Or possibly Deflectus
It doesn't matter that Wilder and Fury were both offered the AJ fight by Matchroom at different points in their career. It doesn't matter at all, because BigBullyDeflectus will never acknowledge that.
BigBullyDeflectus is very apt.
I suppose we could all jump on this bus as we all know his boy Luke wanted no more part of John McDermott and don’t even start with old man Wlad and what happened to that “rematch”.
Seems rematches are insisted upon nowadays.
Back to the thread though. Think Carl Froch pretty much owns this now.
Hope that’s the last we hear of this old fella calling people out left right and centre.
Beyond embarrassing. It’s like Cannonball Lee out of The Krays film. Mind you at least that character got in the ring. (Shhh it’s make believe BigBullyDeflectus)
be careful you'll be offered out!
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:07
by si7dog7
Course I know he rematched big John but not immediately . Big error on my part. We all know who should have won the first though. was gonna put David Price in but of course that never happened.
Apologies for my oversight
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:08
by si7dog7
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:07
si7dog7 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:04
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:50
It doesn't matter that Wilder and Fury were both offered the AJ fight by Matchroom at different points in their career. It doesn't matter at all, because BigBullyDeflectus will never acknowledge that.
BigBullyDeflectus is very apt.
I suppose we could all jump on this bus as we all know his boy Luke wanted no more part of John McDermott and don’t even start with old man Wlad and what happened to that “rematch”.
Seems rematches are insisted upon nowadays.
Back to the thread though. Think Carl Froch pretty much owns this now.
Hope that’s the last we hear of this old fella calling people out left right and centre.
Beyond embarrassing. It’s like Cannonball Lee out of The Krays film. Mind you at least that character got in the ring. (Shhh it’s make believe BigBullyDeflectus)
be careful you'll be offered out!
. One on Bare-knuckle
Its ok I’ve been training with Ronnie Pickering
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:20
by samwbr
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:54
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:00
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 09:39
You claimed that Ward was offered the fight “a few times“ but are unable to provide details of any offers.
They were at each other on twitter and in the media frequently, Froch offered it after he beat Kessler in the rematch to his face.
So Froch spoke about it? What did his promoter offer Ward?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
When were all the other “offers”?
Nothing happened, nothing was said. At all. By either man.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 11:22
by SeanBrennan
si7dog7 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:08
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:07
si7dog7 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:04
BigBullyDeflectus is very apt.
I suppose we could all jump on this bus as we all know his boy Luke wanted no more part of John McDermott and don’t even start with old man Wlad and what happened to that “rematch”.
Seems rematches are insisted upon nowadays.
Back to the thread though. Think Carl Froch pretty much owns this now.
Hope that’s the last we hear of this old fella calling people out left right and centre.
Beyond embarrassing. It’s like Cannonball Lee out of The Krays film. Mind you at least that character got in the ring. (Shhh it’s make believe BigBullyDeflectus)
be careful you'll be offered out!
. One on Bare-knuckle
Its ok I’ve been training with Ronnie Pickering
you'll be sorted then, if you roll with Ron, nothing will go wrong.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 12:12
by BigDoofus
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:01
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:54
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:00
They were at each other on twitter and in the media frequently, Froch offered it after he beat Kessler in the rematch to his face.
So Froch spoke about it? What did his promoter offer Ward?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
When were all the other “offers”?
What did Ward's promoter offer Froch?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
Ward, with an injured hand, easily beat Froch. Why would any American promoter make Froch an offer?
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 12:13
by BigDoofus
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:20
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:54
samwbr wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:00
They were at each other on twitter and in the media frequently, Froch offered it after he beat Kessler in the rematch to his face.
So Froch spoke about it? What did his promoter offer Ward?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
When were all the other “offers”?
Nothing happened, nothing was said. At all. By either man.
When you claimed that Ward was offered the rematch “a few times” you were making it up.
Re: Latest dirge from John Fury
Posted: 08 Feb 2024, 12:45
by jwfg
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 12:12
jwfg wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 11:01
BigDoofus wrote: ↑08 Feb 2024, 10:54
So Froch spoke about it? What did his promoter offer Ward?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
When were all the other “offers”?
What did Ward's promoter offer Froch?
Date? Venue? Purse? Contract?
Ward, with an injured hand, easily beat Froch. Why would any American promoter make Froch an offer?
Because promoting is a business? And without putting fights on, promoters don't have an income?
. One on Bare-knuckle