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Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 21 Mar 2024, 17:44
by SeanBrennan
JackGlad wrote: ↑21 Mar 2024, 17:41
No problem will answer most things unless there is a reason not too.
top man
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:32
by Spud
I am reading the “matchmaker” posts on this and other threads.
To be a matchmaker is so brave and is such a thankless task so all the very best Jack from this thread and the many other matchmakers.
I couldn’t do the job, I once skirted with the idea and got found out within a couple of days the job was beyond me.
I will list some of the problems a matchmaker faces:
Finding a suitable ranked opponent for the good and benefit of the fighter.
Finding a suitable opponent that meets the promoters needs.
Are Tv happy.
Are the BBBofC happy
Late withdraws
At the weigh I have both fighters met the weight, if not will a fighter accept compensation.
Rival matchmakers/promoters pulling their fighter out when it’s too late to find another …
Come on matchmakers what have I forgot?
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:42
by JackGlad
Foreign fighters refusing to board flights or leave hotels.
African fighters requiring uk bloods
Getting UK Bloods sent to the board.
and in one case a foreign fighter having been stopped but it not being on Boxrec as commission isn’t recorded but once I knew morally couldn’t put him in so had to replace him 48 hours before.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:43
by JackGlad
even in my short time in Boxing I have a few crazy stories.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:48
by Spud
JackGlad wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:42
Foreign fighters refusing to board flights or leave hotels.
African fighters requiring uk bloods
Getting UK Bloods sent to the board.
and in one case a foreign fighter having been stopped but it not being on Boxrec as commission isn’t recorded but once I knew morally couldn’t put him in so had to replace him 48 hours before.
I remember working on a Steve wraith promotion … a foreign fighter checked. Into his hotel on the morning of the fighter and duly got pi*sed in the bar and failed to turn up to the. Venue for his fight.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:52
by JackGlad
Spud wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:48
JackGlad wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:42
Foreign fighters refusing to board flights or leave hotels.
African fighters requiring uk bloods
Getting UK Bloods sent to the board.
and in one case a foreign fighter having been stopped but it not being on Boxrec as commission isn’t recorded but once I knew morally couldn’t put him in so had to replace him 48 hours before.
I remember working on a Steve wraith promotion … a foreign fighter checked. Into his hotel on the morning of the fighter and duly got pi*sed in the bar and failed to turn up to the. Venue for his fight.
I’ve met Steve as matched a fighter he managed how did you find him ?
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:53
by Spud
JackGlad wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:52
Spud wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:48
JackGlad wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:42
Foreign fighters refusing to board flights or leave hotels.
African fighters requiring uk bloods
Getting UK Bloods sent to the board.
and in one case a foreign fighter having been stopped but it not being on Boxrec as commission isn’t recorded but once I knew morally couldn’t put him in so had to replace him 48 hours before.
I remember working on a Steve wraith promotion … a foreign fighter checked. Into his hotel on the morning of the fighter and duly got pi*sed in the bar and failed to turn up to the. Venue for his fight.
I’ve met Steve as matched a fighter he managed how did you find him ?
Met him through Phil Jeffries who promoted in the north east
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 09:58
by JackGlad
Spud wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:53
JackGlad wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:52
I’ve met Steve as matched a fighter he managed how did you find him ?
Met him through Phil Jeffries who promoted in the north east
Yeah I matched Phil last couple shows.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 10:05
by JackGlad
joshj909 wrote: ↑14 Mar 2024, 08:48
How did you get into it?
Worked with any big names?
A conversation with a mate lead to me getting my licence.
have matched a few TV fights helped with and made a few title fights haven’t been involved in a British or World Title yet hopefully in time it happens.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 12:53
by Frostieballs
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑21 Mar 2024, 15:37
thanks both for sharing. Did/do you enjoy working in it? Is it hard to get into? Are there any surprisingly nice people in it?
Hi Sean. For the most part I loved it. I went from watching boxing on TV to being involved with some people I really respected, so it was a bit surreal!
I was, however, a lot younger then and didn't really who know I was, so think I would have enjoyed it even more if I had just relaxed a bit and enjoyed the ride.
I don't think it is that hard to get into at some level if you put in the graft. I kind of fell into it. Myself and a business partner launched one of the first boxing websites in the UK and travelled the country attending press conferences/fights. Everyone from small hall promoters to the big boys welcomed us and I got to know people that way.
In the end we sold the site and I moved over to working for a promoter. That obviously narrowed my circle, but the people I worked with were great.
Yes, there are some surprisingly nice people in the sport. Many were kind to me when I had some issues and not one person judged me. I am in still in touch with a few people now. On the whole boxing people are generally funny, either intentionally or by accident. I don't think it is an industry I would go back to though - it is very intense!
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 13:03
by Spud
Hello Frostie,
I loved boxing its like a drug, it keeps drawing you back in.
When you finished with the 1st promoter you work for why didn’t you move to another.?
I am very surprised you didn’t work for the person who brought you out .
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 13:23
by Spud
JackGlad wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 09:43
even in my short time in Boxing I have a few crazy stories.
Tell us more!!!
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 13:44
by Wake up call
I've worked in boxing on and off for the past 18 years or so.
Started just submitting random articles to random websites on a voluntary basis and then got a small retainer from one website for editing work and then began freelancing for Boxing News and pretty much producing all the boxing content in the Yorkshire Evening Post.
Later, I was made media officer for Hatton Promotions, which despite the company's relatively short stint on Sky Sports, I continued to do it for six years and dealt with Spud a few times along the way. Top fella.
When the Hatton gig ended I told myself was going to go back to what I did before, financial services, and would concentrate solely on a 'proper job', but boxing people never really let you walk fully away so I still keep my hand by doing bits of video work for Josh Wale and Stefy Bull and I'm back doing the odd Boxing News article here and there.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 14:21
by Spud
Hello pal how are you doing?
You had a lucky escape when I asked you to work for Mr Haye and it subsequently fell through
You are completely correct about not being able to walk away …
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 15:37
by SeanBrennan
Frostieballs wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 12:53
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑21 Mar 2024, 15:37
thanks both for sharing. Did/do you enjoy working in it? Is it hard to get into? Are there any surprisingly nice people in it?
Hi Sean. For the most part I loved it. I went from watching boxing on TV to being involved with some people I really respected, so it was a bit surreal!
I was, however, a lot younger then and didn't really who know I was, so think I would have enjoyed it even more if I had just relaxed a bit and enjoyed the ride.
I don't think it is that hard to get into at some level if you put in the graft. I kind of fell into it. Myself and a business partner launched one of the first boxing websites in the UK and travelled the country attending press conferences/fights. Everyone from small hall promoters to the big boys welcomed us and I got to know people that way.
In the end we sold the site and I moved over to working for a promoter. That obviously narrowed my circle, but the people I worked with were great.
Yes, there are some surprisingly nice people in the sport. Many were kind to me when I had some issues and not one person judged me. I am in still in touch with a few people now. On the whole boxing people are generally funny, either intentionally or by accident. I don't think it is an industry I would go back to though - it is very intense!
thanks for sharing your story Frostie, really interesting. Was it strange seeing the site after you sold it? Must have been hard as you'd created it from nothing. Well done on both your roles in the sport mate.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 15:40
by SeanBrennan
Spud wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 13:03
Hello Frostie,
I loved boxing its like a drug, it keeps drawing you back in.
When you finished with the 1st promoter you work for why didn’t you move to another.?
I am very surprised you didn’t work for the person who brought you out .
it definitely sounds addictive from listening to this, genuinely really interesting this thread.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 15:41
by SeanBrennan
Wake up call wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 13:44
I've worked in boxing on and off for the past 18 years or so.
Started just submitting random articles to random websites on a voluntary basis and then got a small retainer from one website for editing work and then began freelancing for Boxing News and pretty much producing all the boxing content in the Yorkshire Evening Post.
Later, I was made media officer for Hatton Promotions, which despite the company's relatively short stint on Sky Sports, I continued to do it for six years and dealt with Spud a few times along the way. Top fella.
When the Hatton gig ended I told myself was going to go back to what I did before, financial services, and would concentrate solely on a 'proper job', but boxing people never really let you walk fully away so I still keep my hand by doing bits of video work for Josh Wale and Stefy Bull and I'm back doing the odd Boxing News article here and there.
that is brilliant, writing for BN and YEP. 18 years, blimey. Interesting re financial services, that's Goodwin's main/other business too isn't it. Thanks for sharing.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 16:54
by Wake up call
Spud wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 14:21
Hello pal how are you doing?
You had a lucky escape when I asked you to work for Mr Haye and it subsequently fell through
You are completely correct about not being able to walk away …
I’m good pal. Hope you are too. Sorry to hear about your condition.
You’re probably right about Haye. I was up for it at the time but I think me and Mr Haye would probably have clashed personality wise.
If you’re up for a catch up give me a bell sometime mate.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 16:55
by Wake up call
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 15:41
Wake up call wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 13:44
I've worked in boxing on and off for the past 18 years or so.
Started just submitting random articles to random websites on a voluntary basis and then got a small retainer from one website for editing work and then began freelancing for Boxing News and pretty much producing all the boxing content in the Yorkshire Evening Post.
Later, I was made media officer for Hatton Promotions, which despite the company's relatively short stint on Sky Sports, I continued to do it for six years and dealt with Spud a few times along the way. Top fella.
When the Hatton gig ended I told myself was going to go back to what I did before, financial services, and would concentrate solely on a 'proper job', but boxing people never really let you walk fully away so I still keep my hand by doing bits of video work for Josh Wale and Stefy Bull and I'm back doing the odd Boxing News article here and there.
that is brilliant, writing for BN and YEP. 18 years, blimey. Interesting re financial services, that's Goodwin's main/other business too isn't it. Thanks for sharing.
Financial Services pays better believe me.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 22 Mar 2024, 16:58
by SeanBrennan
Wake up call wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 16:55
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 15:41
Wake up call wrote: ↑22 Mar 2024, 13:44
I've worked in boxing on and off for the past 18 years or so.
Started just submitting random articles to random websites on a voluntary basis and then got a small retainer from one website for editing work and then began freelancing for Boxing News and pretty much producing all the boxing content in the Yorkshire Evening Post.
Later, I was made media officer for Hatton Promotions, which despite the company's relatively short stint on Sky Sports, I continued to do it for six years and dealt with Spud a few times along the way. Top fella.
When the Hatton gig ended I told myself was going to go back to what I did before, financial services, and would concentrate solely on a 'proper job', but boxing people never really let you walk fully away so I still keep my hand by doing bits of video work for Josh Wale and Stefy Bull and I'm back doing the odd Boxing News article here and there.
that is brilliant, writing for BN and YEP. 18 years, blimey. Interesting re financial services, that's Goodwin's main/other business too isn't it. Thanks for sharing.
Financial Services pays better believe me.
I can well imagine mate!
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 23 Mar 2024, 10:29
by nobleart1978
Being a boxing Fan is addictive. As for working in boxing, it is not, simply because you can't make a living out of it at small hall level. Plus there is all the hassle of dealing with fighters - who are a notoriously unreliable bunch.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 23 Mar 2024, 10:36
by JackGlad
nobleart1978 wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 10:29
Being a boxing Fan is addictive. As for working in boxing, it is not, simply because you can't make a living out of it at small hall level. Plus there is all the hassle of dealing with fighters - who are a notoriously unreliable bunch.
I make a ok living but it’s stressful it’s great being in Boxing but it changes your perspective of Boxing.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 23 Mar 2024, 13:27
by Spud
Working in boxing is hard graft and without doubt you have to make sacrifices and take risks Employment risks.
Its not an impossible dream but its a long shot and you have to have an impeccable work ethic and make decisions yourself.
Like i have eluded to, my son is presently in USA working on a misfits show … he works his nuts off mu
But to secure regular work with misfits and wasserman he has sacked his full time job.
if anyone wants help or advice working in boxing dm me .. good luck
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 23 Mar 2024, 13:33
by JackGlad
Spud wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 13:27
Working in boxing is hard graft and without doubt you have to make sacrifices and take risks Employment risks.
Its not an impossible dream but its a long shot and you have to have an impeccable work ethic and make decisions yourself.
Like i have eluded to, my son is presently in USA working on a misfits show … he works his nuts off mu
But to secure regular work with misfits and wasserman he has sacked his full time job.
if anyone wants help or advice working in boxing dm me .. good luck
Ha ha and be a tiny bit mad jokes aside I work 12-16 hours 6 - 7 days a week sometimes more hours.
Re: Would you work in Boxing ?
Posted: 23 Mar 2024, 13:36
by Spud
JackGlad wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 13:33
Spud wrote: ↑23 Mar 2024, 13:27
Working in boxing is hard graft and without doubt you have to make sacrifices and take risks Employment risks.
Its not an impossible dream but its a long shot and you have to have an impeccable work ethic and make decisions yourself.
Like i have eluded to, my son is presently in USA working on a misfits show … he works his nuts off mu
But to secure regular work with misfits and wasserman he has sacked his full time job.
if anyone wants help or advice working in boxing dm me .. good luck
Ha ha and be a tiny bit mad jokes aside I work 12-16 hours 6 - 7 days a week sometimes more hours.
Financial Services pays better believe me.
