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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 15 Jun 2024, 23:19
by Finkel
joshj909 wrote: 15 Jun 2024, 16:17
I got to say those new WBC rankings are a fornicating joke (as usual). Utterly disrespectful to Kabayel's achievements based on their own ranking system.

Kabayel beat WBC#3 ranked Makhmudov.
Then, beat WBC#2 ranked Sanchez.


Joshua beat WBC#9 ranked Wallin.
Then, beat WBC#10 ranked Ngannou.

Fury beat Unranked Ngannou.
Then, lost to Usyk.

https://wbcboxing.com/mailing/2023/rati ... 2023__.pdf

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 16 Jun 2024, 06:10
by joshj909
Finkel wrote: 15 Jun 2024, 23:19
joshj909 wrote: 15 Jun 2024, 16:17
I got to say those new WBC rankings are a fornicating joke (as usual). Utterly disrespectful to Kabayel's achievements based on their own ranking system.

Kabayel beat WBC#3 ranked Makhmudov.
Then, beat WBC#2 ranked Sanchez.


Joshua beat WBC#9 ranked Wallin.
Then, beat WBC#10 ranked Ngannou.

Fury beat Unranked Ngannou.
Then, lost to Usyk.

https://wbcboxing.com/mailing/2023/rati ... 2023__.pdf
Unfortunately, the rankings are based on promoter promises and financial gain. They want the % of a Joshua fight more than a Kabayel fight so if they can tempt Joshua to fight in their final eliminator it's more financially beneficial for the WBC than a Kabayel fight.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 16 Jun 2024, 06:51
by Thomastearns
The WBC is a furtive parasite desperately clinging to the body of boxing.

It could not care an iota less that 'boxing is broken', in fact it's helped to bring about this sorry state.

The WBCs only purpose is to survive by sucking the lifeblood of this most noble of ancient sports.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 20 Jun 2024, 06:14
by joshj909
Think these are all of the current heavyweight fixtures inside the top 100:
Hughie vs TBA - 29th June
Pettigrew vs Navarro - 29th June
Fisher vs Babic - 6th July
Gadzhimagomedov vs Zhaoxin Zhang - 12th July
Dacres vs Adeleye - 20th July
Hovhannisyan vs Hall - 26th July
Joyce vs Chisora - 27th July
Anderson vs Bakole - 3rd August
Ruiz vs Miller - 3rd August

Torrez vs Temple - 10th August
Makhmudov vs Vianello - 17th August
Rogava vs TBA - 28th September
Hysa vs TBA - 19th October
Usyk vs Fury - 21st December

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 21 Jun 2024, 06:29
by pound per pound
Finkel wrote: 15 Jun 2024, 23:19
joshj909 wrote: 15 Jun 2024, 16:17
I got to say those new WBC rankings are a fornicating joke (as usual). Utterly disrespectful to Kabayel's achievements based on their own ranking system.

Kabayel beat WBC#3 ranked Makhmudov.
Then, beat WBC#2 ranked Sanchez.


Joshua beat WBC#9 ranked Wallin.
Then, beat WBC#10 ranked Ngannou.

Fury beat Unranked Ngannou.
Then, lost to Usyk.

https://wbcboxing.com/mailing/2023/rati ... 2023__.pdf
Indeed. Fury " beat " Ngannou. Meanwhile Fury backed out of a fight vs. Kabyel for a title shot not so long ago. I think I know why he did.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 24 Jun 2024, 03:26
by Ruthless-RKO
New fight!

17.08.2024 - 🇷🇺 Arslanbek Makhmudov - 19(18) 1(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #20) vs. 🇲🇽 Guido Vianello - 12(10) 2(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #61)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 25 Jun 2024, 19:20
by Ruthless-RKO
Otto Wallin vs. Richard Lartey on July 26th

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 25 Jun 2024, 19:49
by margaret thatcher
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 19:20 Otto Wallin vs. Richard Lartey on July 26th
and the crowd goes mild

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 25 Jun 2024, 19:50
by margaret thatcher
mak - guido shouldnt get either ranked, but i like that fight. they ffought in wsb and it was close until a guido injury retirement

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 26 Jun 2024, 12:32
by Ruthless-RKO
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 13 Jun 2024, 03:23 The vote is over.

- Zhilei Zhang moves up to #5
- Daniel Dubois moves up to #6
- Filip Hrgovic drops down to #9
- Deontay Wilder drops OUT

Current ranking:
Image 🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. 🇬🇧 Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - (#2)

2. 🇬🇧 Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. 🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - (Image)

3. 🇬🇧 Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. 🇳🇿 Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. 🇨🇳 Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

6. 🇬🇧 Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. 🇩🇪 Agit Kabayel - 25(17) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. 🇬🇧 Joe Joyce - 16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 27.07.2024 vs. 🇬🇧 Dereck Chisora - 34(23) 13(4) 0 - (Boxrec's #22)

9. 🇭🇷 Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. 🇨🇩 Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. 🇺🇸 Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - (#12)

11. 🇨🇺 Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. 🇺🇸 Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. 🇨🇩 Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - (#10)

13. 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. 🇸🇪 Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. VACANT
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AJ-Dubois confirmed

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 28 Jun 2024, 19:19
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 19:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 19:20 Otto Wallin vs. Richard Lartey on July 26th
and the crowd goes mild
Lartey is out. Apparently it was a different Lartey anyway.. but Wallin is now fighting Nigerian Onoriode Ehwarieme

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 28 Jun 2024, 20:46
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2024, 19:19
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 19:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 19:20 Otto Wallin vs. Richard Lartey on July 26th
and the crowd goes mild
Lartey is out. Apparently it was a different Lartey anyway.. but Wallin is now fighting Nigerian Onoriode Ehwarieme
That is a joke of a fight

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 30 Jun 2024, 16:03
by KiwiRider
Thomastearns wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 06:51 The WBC is a furtive parasite desperately clinging to the body of boxing.

It could not care an iota less that 'boxing is broken', in fact it's helped to bring about this sorry state.

The WBCs only purpose is to survive by sucking the lifeblood of this most noble of ancient sports.
:salut: 100% scum.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 04 Jul 2024, 04:50
by Ruthless-RKO
Just an update as new fights have been announced.

Current ranking:
Image 🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. 🇬🇧 Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - (#2)

2. 🇬🇧 Tyson Fury - 34(24) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 21.12.2024 vs. 🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk - 22(14) 0 0 - (Image)

3. 🇬🇧 Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 21.09.2024 vs. 🇬🇧 Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - (#6)

4. 🇳🇿 Joseph Parker - 35(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. 🇨🇳 Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 2(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

6. 🇬🇧 Daniel Dubois - 21(20) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 21.09.2024 vs. 🇬🇧 Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 3(1) 0 - (#3)

7. 🇩🇪 Agit Kabayel - 25(17) 0(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

8. 🇬🇧 Joe Joyce - 16(15) 2(2) 0 - next fight: 27.07.2024 vs. 🇬🇧 Dereck Chisora - 34(23) 13(4) 0 - (Boxrec's #22)

9. 🇭🇷 Filip Hrgovic - 17(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. 🇨🇩 Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. 🇺🇸 Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - (#12)

11. 🇨🇺 Frank Sanchez - 24(17) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. 🇺🇸 Jared Anderson - 17(15) 0 0 - next fight: 03.08.2024 vs. 🇨🇩 Martin Bakole - 20(15) 1(1) 0 - (#10)

13. 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. 🇸🇪 Otto Wallin - 26(14) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 26.07.2024 vs. 🇳🇬 Onoriode Ehwarieme - 20(19) 4(4) 0 - (Boxrec's #305)

15. VACANT
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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

03.08.2024 - 🇺🇸 Jarrell Miller - 26(22) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #29) vs. 🇲🇽 Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - (inactive, unranked)

17.08.2024 - 🇷🇺 Arslanbek Makhmudov - 19(18) 1(1) 0 - (Boxrec's #20) vs. 🇲🇽 Guido Vianello - 12(10) 2(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #61)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 08 Jul 2024, 20:49
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jun 2024, 08:28
joshj909 wrote: 06 Jun 2024, 08:20
It begs the question, is the choir boy Dubois the dirtiest heavyweight at the moment? Headbutts, low blows, Mocking Joyce's blind mum. Is he deep down a nasty piece of work or is he retarded?
retard i think..

He aint intelligent enough
The dirty stuff is nasty, so he is both.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 11 Jul 2024, 08:08
by pound per pound
KiwiRider wrote: 08 Jul 2024, 20:49
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jun 2024, 08:28
joshj909 wrote: 06 Jun 2024, 08:20
It begs the question, is the choir boy Dubois the dirtiest heavyweight at the moment? Headbutts, low blows, Mocking Joyce's blind mum. Is he deep down a nasty piece of work or is he retarded?
retard i think..

He aint intelligent enough
The dirty stuff is nasty, so he is both.
Some needs to check his gloves.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 12 Jul 2024, 23:39
by Finkel
tiny_acres wrote: 28 Jun 2024, 20:46
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Jun 2024, 19:19
margaret thatcher wrote: 25 Jun 2024, 19:49

and the crowd goes mild
Lartey is out. Apparently it was a different Lartey anyway.. but Wallin is now fighting Nigerian Onoriode Ehwarieme
That is a joke of a fight
Yeah, I don't see the benefit of this fight. On the one hand, they probably just want to get Wallin back in the ring and give him an easy comeback opponent. On the other hand, Wallin isn't exactly known for his power, but anything other than an early stoppage will look bad. I can only assume they hope this fight completely flies under the radar, and they are trying to line up another fight in quick succession.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 27 Jul 2024, 18:41
by CMCanavessi
Joyce out, NOW

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Zhang v Wilder / Dubois v Hrgovic

Posted: 27 Jul 2024, 20:29
by KiwiRider
CMCanavessi wrote: 27 Jul 2024, 18:41 Joyce out, NOW
X2.
Nothing he has done prior matters after being dropped and beaten fairly clearly by an aged Chisora. Nothing.