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RScarf1 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 18:48

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 16:48

SteveO wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 14:14 At the very least it would be common courtesy to let us know what the problem is between BoxRec and the WBA.

I did some research on the issue and it appears Boxrec has deleted the WBA history because the WBA is working with a competitor in the boxing community known as Fight Fax. I've never heard of fight fax.

Fight Fax used to publish a book every year called The Boxing Record Book. It was as thick as what the old phone books used to be. It would have the entire record of every boxer who fought in that year. Some of them are for sale on eBay. You could also order individual records of boxers for $10 each which would be emailed as an attached document. The records were not as complete as on BoxRec because Fight Fax does not list fights that were not sanctioned. However, if there was a title at stake, it would be listed. It did not matter whether it was from a major sanctioning body. Even IBA and IBC belts were recognized. Fight Fax now does their own ratings on its website. That was one advantage that BoxRec had over Fight Fax because Fight Fax did not used to do their own ratings. They were just a record keeper. Now it seems that they are trying to compete with BoxRec in this regard.

Koski wrote: ↑10 Aug 2024, 04:43 So, yesterday I noticed that none of the WBA title are in BoxRec anymore. If you look someone like Usyk and his fight profile, you can see that WBC, WBO and IBF titles are still there to be seen but WBA title is not there anymore. And this goes for every fighter who holds/has held a WBA title. Is this a bug? What happened?

Manrae wrote: ↑27 Aug 2024, 23:09 Dmitri Bivol has never been a world champion according to Boxrec... unless you count the IBO

RScarf1 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 18:48

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 16:48

SteveO wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 14:14 At the very least it would be common courtesy to let us know what the problem is between BoxRec and the WBA.

I did some research on the issue and it appears Boxrec has deleted the WBA history because the WBA is working with a competitor in the boxing community known as Fight Fax. I've never heard of fight fax.

Fight Fax used to publish a book every year called The Boxing Record Book. It was as thick as what the old phone books used to be. It would have the entire record of every boxer who fought in that year. Some of them are for sale on eBay. You could also order individual records of boxers for $10 each which would be emailed as an attached document. The records were not as complete as on BoxRec because Fight Fax does not list fights that were not sanctioned. However, if there was a title at stake, it would be listed. It did not matter whether it was from a major sanctioning body. Even IBA and IBC belts were recognized. Fight Fax now does their own ratings on its website. That was one advantage that BoxRec had over Fight Fax because Fight Fax did not used to do their own ratings. They were just a record keeper. Now it seems that they are trying to compete with BoxRec in this regard.

felinoboxing wrote: ↑28 Aug 2024, 14:10

RScarf1 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 18:48

xxxxxxx wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 16:48

I did some research on the issue and it appears Boxrec has deleted the WBA history because the WBA is working with a competitor in the boxing community known as Fight Fax. I've never heard of fight fax.

Fight Fax used to publish a book every year called The Boxing Record Book. It was as thick as what the old phone books used to be. It would have the entire record of every boxer who fought in that year. Some of them are for sale on eBay. You could also order individual records of boxers for $10 each which would be emailed as an attached document. The records were not as complete as on BoxRec because Fight Fax does not list fights that were not sanctioned. However, if there was a title at stake, it would be listed. It did not matter whether it was from a major sanctioning body. Even IBA and IBC belts were recognized. Fight Fax now does their own ratings on its website. That was one advantage that BoxRec had over Fight Fax because Fight Fax did not used to do their own ratings. They were just a record keeper. Now it seems that they are trying to compete with BoxRec in this regard.

For boxrec to erase the records of a sanctioning body at the same time as a former competitor reappears is a strange decision.
In BS I read:: “So I think that he has some good ideas (Turki Alalshikh) but, already, his desire for control and his ego are threatening to undercut these positive aspects. He clearly does not like it when people say no to him – whether that be Canelo Álvarez or John Sheppard of BoxRec. That seems ominous to me.”

SteveO wrote: ↑28 Aug 2024, 14:35 The management remain strangely silent on this matter.
What are they scared of?

1324451 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 18:23 The unanswered question I have:

Is it BoxRec that removed WBA history from BoxRec (upset that the WBA left)? Or is it the WBA who didn't want their stuff on BoxRec (in an effort to replace BoxRec)?

JDC wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 22:18 Boxrec was a lot easier to read 10-15 years ago.

Every fighters profile record would list a lot more info... Any title, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, WBA, IBA, regional, international, commonwealth, European, domestic national etc.

Also judges names and scores, if known, referees name. Venue too.

...took a little more space up, but was much more informative, without having to click to new pages, or go researching elsewhere.

I don't like this new listing format.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 22:21

JDC wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 22:18 Boxrec was a lot easier to read 10-15 years ago.

Every fighters profile record would list a lot more info... Any title, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, WBA, IBA, regional, international, commonwealth, European, domestic national etc.

Also judges names and scores, if known, referees name. Venue too.

...took a little more space up, but was much more informative, without having to click to new pages, or go researching elsewhere.

I don't like this new listing format.

are you logged in on the main boxrec page?

it gives all that info for , only time it doest is if im not logged it

1324451 wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 18:23 The unanswered question I have:

Is it BoxRec that removed WBA history from BoxRec (upset that the WBA left)? Or is it the WBA who didn't want their stuff on BoxRec (in an effort to replace BoxRec)?

SteveO wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 14:46 This is in addition to BoxRec removing all the boxers dates of birth!
Crazy times.

joshj909 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 16:30

SteveO wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 14:46 This is in addition to BoxRec removing all the boxers dates of birth!
Crazy times.

I have a feeling that was due to GDPR precautions

joshj909 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 16:30

SteveO wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 14:46 This is in addition to BoxRec removing all the boxers dates of birth!
Crazy times.

I have a feeling that was due to GDPR precautions

SteveO wrote: ↑03 Sep 2024, 14:57

joshj909 wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 16:30

SteveO wrote: ↑02 Sep 2024, 14:46 This is in addition to BoxRec removing all the boxers dates of birth!
Crazy times.

I have a feeling that was due to GDPR precautions

Then I guess the GDPR precautions don't apply to all the other websites that give their DOB's?

oliverfennell wrote: ↑20 Aug 2024, 10:39

SteveO wrote: ↑18 Aug 2024, 14:00 Yes, could we please have an official explanation telling us why this ridiculous situation has occurred.
Thank you.

You won't get one.

I was a Boxrec editor for more than 20 years, completely voluntary.

A few months ago in what may have been a precursor of this, the WBA Asia and Continental titles disappeared. A promoter of an event which featured them asked me why. I said I didn't know but would ask. I put the question in the Editors' forum and was kicked out, had my editor's login cancelled, and a polite request via PM for an explanation was ignored.

JDC wrote: ↑01 Sep 2024, 22:18 Boxrec was a lot easier to read 10-15 years ago.

Every fighters profile record would list a lot more info... Any title, WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, WBA, IBA, regional, international, commonwealth, European, domestic national etc.

Also judges names and scores, if known, referees name. Venue too.

...took a little more space up, but was much more informative, without having to click to new pages, or go researching elsewhere.

I don't like this new listing format.