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Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:18
by jamesmcdonnell
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 02:56
Please fight AJ at Wembley.
I have to come over to the UK this year so I'd make sure it coincided with that.
I have a feeling if they do fight, it could be rather a sad affair.
AJ looks shot to me, he was so gunshy against Dubois, he seemed to have little or no self belief, though oddly, once he was badly hurt, he seemed to find some aggression.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:19
by jamesmcdonnell
Fury is just angling for more money, despite his claims about how he doesn't care about money, he is greedy AF, and he will just be trying to wangle as much coin as possible.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:22
by mickey1975
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:18
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 02:56
Please fight AJ at Wembley.
I have to come over to the UK this year so I'd make sure it coincided with that.
I have a feeling if they do fight, it could be rather a sad affair.
AJ looks shot to me, he was so gunshy against Dubois, he seemed to have little or no self belief, though oddly, once he was badly hurt, he seemed to find some aggression.
Dan Raefel said it's a fun UK fight, nobody else cares.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:26
by Jimmy2025
mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:22
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:18
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 02:56
Please fight AJ at Wembley.
I have to come over to the UK this year so I'd make sure it coincided with that.
I have a feeling if they do fight, it could be rather a sad affair.
AJ looks shot to me, he was so gunshy against Dubois, he seemed to have little or no self belief, though oddly, once he was badly hurt, he seemed to find some aggression.
Dan Raefel said it's a fun UK fight, nobody else cares.
Nobody else has cared about most of Fury and Joshua's fights but they have done okay, no?
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:27
by jamesmcdonnell
mickey1975 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:22
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:18
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 02:56
Please fight AJ at Wembley.
I have to come over to the UK this year so I'd make sure it coincided with that.
I have a feeling if they do fight, it could be rather a sad affair.
AJ looks shot to me, he was so gunshy against Dubois, he seemed to have little or no self belief, though oddly, once he was badly hurt, he seemed to find some aggression.
Dan Raefel said it's a fun UK fight, nobody else cares.
I don't think it will do humungous numbers, but people in the UK will buy it.
It's just a shame it's arguably 5 years too late.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:36
by Jimmy2025
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:27
I don't think it will do humungous numbers, but people in the UK will buy it.
I think it would do huge UK numbers.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:41
by jamesmcdonnell
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:36
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:27
I don't think it will do humungous numbers, but people in the UK will buy it.
I think it would do huge UK numbers.
Yes but far less overseas buys.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:44
by tonyevs
Hearing Fury say he is retiring doesnt come as a surprise does it. Half of me says he means it because he won`t want to tarnish his already devalued legacy any further by getting KO`d by AJ - the other half says he is just trying to maximise his next fight purse.
Fury won`t sit high in the ATG heavyweight lists.
Whilst being more talented than Nik Valuev, its embarrassing that Furys fight record is on par with Valuevs.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 13:57
by Coco
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:19
Fury is just angling for more money, despite his claims about how he doesn't care about money, he is greedy AF, and he will just be trying to wangle as much coin as possible.
While he may well retire if the money isn't there, offer him 50 million and he will fight.
I agree it's a negotiation tactic for AJ.
I'm sure he would fight Klit again for the same money.
I wonder if he would fight DDD for 25 million?
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 14:33
by Jimmy2025
Coco wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:57
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:19
Fury is just angling for more money, despite his claims about how he doesn't care about money, he is greedy AF, and he will just be trying to wangle as much coin as possible.
While he may well retire if the money isn't there, offer him 50 million and he will fight.
I agree it's a negotiation tactic for AJ.
I'm sure he would fight Klit again for the same money.
I wonder if he would fight DDD for 25 million?
Boredom will be his biggest battle. If he can cope with it or not. I live close to him and am a boring person, so can cope okay but a guy with Tyson's personality, I'm not so sure. It's a pretty boring part of the world. He'll need something to do day to day. I'm unsure if the money makes a real difference at this stage, it may do but how much does he need?
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 14:36
by KiwiRider
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 14:33
Coco wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:57
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:19
Fury is just angling for more money, despite his claims about how he doesn't care about money, he is greedy AF, and he will just be trying to wangle as much coin as possible.
While he may well retire if the money isn't there, offer him 50 million and he will fight.
I agree it's a negotiation tactic for AJ.
I'm sure he would fight Klit again for the same money.
I wonder if he would fight DDD for 25 million?
Boredom will be his biggest battle. If he can cope with it or not. I live close to him and am a boring person, so can cope okay but a guy with Tyson's personality, I'm not so sure. It's a pretty boring part of the world. He'll need something to do day to day. I'm unsure if the money makes a real difference at this stage, it may do but how much does he need?
I only had two kids and found very little time to be bored!
He has 7.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 14:45
by Jimmy2025
KiwiRider wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 14:36
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 14:33
Coco wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:57
While he may well retire if the money isn't there, offer him 50 million and he will fight.
I agree it's a negotiation tactic for AJ.
I'm sure he would fight Klit again for the same money.
I wonder if he would fight DDD for 25 million?
Boredom will be his biggest battle. If he can cope with it or not. I live close to him and am a boring person, so can cope okay but a guy with Tyson's personality, I'm not so sure. It's a pretty boring part of the world. He'll need something to do day to day. I'm unsure if the money makes a real difference at this stage, it may do but how much does he need?
I only had two kids and found very little time to be bored!
He has 7.
Me too but Tyson isn't like you or I, he has a huge ego and hanging about doing the school run is not something that will keep that ego where it needs to be for more than a couple of months at a time.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 14:45
by Controversial
No way is he retiring for good, as soon as he’s offered millions to fight AJ he’ll be back
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 14:51
by Ruthless-RKO
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 13:03
Glad someone got the reference
I got you bro
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 14:56
by Nightmare Roy
Doing the old I'm retired in order to hustle a bit more money for his charitable foundation routine.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 15:46
by golden_labrador
The situation Fury's found himself in now is that the AJ fight is the only fight that's left for him, and he could lose that fight. If he gets blasted out by AJ he knows he'll never live it down (especially with himself) - he might even spiral into bad habits. If AJ loses, AJ will probably say something weird on the mike at the end of the fight, wobble around a bit, disappear and then be fine again. Big difference.
Fury's not stupid. If Francis can lay him out, AJ will too (is my basic deduction!)
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 15:49
by golden_labrador
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 11:06
He's retired more times than Terry Funk.
currently watching
Dark Side of the Ring on ITV player. nostalgia
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 16:46
by Controversial
This is the fourth time he’s “retired” isn’t it?
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 17:25
by joshj909
Controversial wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 16:46
This is the fourth time he’s “retired” isn’t it?
First retirement was when the Haye fight got cancelled and he had a tantrum. He returned to the ring 3 months later.
Second retirement was when he ducked the Klitschko rematch and then his third retirement was when the his failed drugs test investigation was opened. He returned 32 months later with a backdated ban.
Fourth retirement was after he beat Whyte. He returned 4 months later.
I think this is his fifth retirement.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 17:28
by coneye
Think his familly may have some influence on this , they probably take the losses to Usyk harder than he does , its not just the dad , seems the whole lot of them live on his success and failures , and can't stand the losing . now Tyson has been well and truly beaten twice , his relevence has dropped and i suspect it affects them more than him .
Got no doubt they will be telling him retire , doubt they can stand another loss especielly to AJ
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 17:54
by dookus
oh okay
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 18:35
by Cas
He doesn't want any part of AJ or DDD. He knows these fights are very risky.
Fury has plenty of money to sail off into the sunset.
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 18:45
by gregregegg
joshj909 wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 05:27
gregregegg wrote: ↑13 Jan 2025, 04:36
In 25 years who will be remembered as better AJ or Fury?
Kilt. Wilder 3 times. Chisora 3 times. Whyte. Double losses to usyk.
Vs
Klit, Whyte, Parker, Ruiz, pov, pulev, Martin (included cause he is a world champ not cause he is good), double losses to usyk. And a few more losses…
Neither are particularly inspiring
If DDD beats Parker his run recent run is arguably better than any run AJ or Fury have had.
Dubois' record that would already be a better run than Joshua and Fury's career?
- Hrgovic (quite untested. Could have a lucky win over Zhang and nothing else to show for his career)
- Joshua (is this a better win that Klitschko without knowing whether Joshua is absolutely shot?)
- Parker (who Joshua, and several others, has beaten)
- Miller (untested former drug cheat with a padded record now off the juice)
- Loss to Usyk
- Nobody else worth mentioning
Joshua beat Klitschko, Takam, Parker and Povetkin in a row. That's a better run.
If we are just talking 4 fight streak (highly arbitrary)
Kilt (41), takem (36), Parker (26), pov (39)…
Or
Miller (35), hrgovic (31), AJ (34), Parker (33)…
If DDD beats Parker (big if) I think that’s a better run honestly than anything AJ did. Add in that it’s been over 14 months.
And as far as 4 fight runs go for me it’s better than anything fury did (highly debatable depending on your view on wilder and Whyte really…)
(wilder wilder Whyte chisora) or (Otto wilder wilder Whyte) or (able, chisora, hammer, kilt).
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 18:46
by cormack
he will be back when enough ££££££ is dangled .
Re: Fury retires........yawn
Posted: 13 Jan 2025, 20:22
by Cyclops
If he's retired then he's not subject to mandatory testing, right? Who knows and frankly I'm not arsed.
I'll watch the fight between him and Joshua but as people they're boring to me, now. They can both f*ck off, actually.
And that Dick Turpin line, wasn't that what McDermott's promoter said in the post fight interview after the first Fury fight?
