Oleksandr Usyk vs. Daniel Dubois II | PPV - 19 July 2025

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 19 Jul 2025, 08:58

Usyk - Decision
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41%
Usyk - T/KO
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43%
DRAW
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2%
Dubois - T/KO
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14%
Dubois - Decision
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Total votes: 95

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Apr 2025, 13:33 Usyk doesn’t care too much about money
How do you know? I believe that was the case too but if he fights on, I think his motives may have shifted, I'm sure his 'team' will care about their percentage keeping rolling in too.

A family man like that would call it a day now if all he cared about was being the best of his era.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Apr 2025, 13:33 Usyk doesn’t care too much about money
He clearly stated after the Fury fight that he would fight whoever his golden goose wanted.
That is a man who cares about money.
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and unlike a lot of boxers, his money probably isn't going up his nose but instead back to Ukraine where they probably need it atm
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Miguello wrote: 05 Apr 2025, 19:30 Pointless fight.

At this rate he's having to beat every UK tighter twice.

Give the bloke a break. We all know he's the best at heavy and should be retiring.
Still wouldn’t mind seeing him fight Parker. Then give him Opetaia in his last fight.
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Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois undisputed fight reaches new deadline: ‘That’s the priority’

Oleksandr Usyk will discover if he will face Daniel Dubois next within the next few days.

Dubois and Usyk met in a huge showdown in 2023 which saw the latter pick up the victory after surviving a controversial 'low blow'.

Stumbling blocks could sit in the way with the IBF set to order Dubois to face Derek Chisora, while the WBO will likely order Usyk to face Parker.

But it is understood an undisputed bout will take precedent, and a July date is being reserved at the UK's 90,000 capacity Wembley Stadium.

When giving a new update on the clash, Usyk's promoter Alex Krassyuk insists a resolution has to be made imminently so an agreement is in place in time for the date.

He told Sky Sports: "If undisputed makes itself possible - it will be the priority.

"We will come to know it within the next couple of days."

Usyk always keeps in shape and is waiting anxiously to see if he can land yet another undisputed bout.

The Ukrainian entered the history books and became the first undisputed champion since 1999, when he beat Fury in May last year.

And now after wiping Fury out, a sequel with Dubois would cement his name as the division's leading star.

Parker is also a credible option having earned his shot, and Usyk is yet to touch gloves with the New Zealander.

But the commercial opportunity of a sell-out show in the UK against Dubois could prove irresistible.

Initially it appeared the Briton himself could look to reschedule his bout with Parker.

'Dynamite' has too become hot property in the division, and is confident he is the best positioned to stop Usyk for the first time.

He said: "Definitely July, a big fight in July against Usyk. That's what I want.

"There's talks, negotiations happening behind the scenes, the two teams are going back and forth.

"I'm just doing my job as a fighter and staying ready and getting prepared for when I get a call on whoever is next, I'm ready to unleash hell.

"The Usyk fight [at Wembley] would be like the AJ fight but way bigger, the biggest fight in the world. That's the fight that really excites me and there's revenge there as well.

"The Usyk fight for undisputed would create history, that would be a massive historic event.

"Just like the AJ fight, the build-up at Leicester Square, it would just be amazing to be a part of that sort of fight.

"I'll be the man to stop him, I just see it. I'll be the first man to beat him. Fight news is coming soon."
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There are rumours that Usyk is ‘encouraged' to continue boxing for PR and political reasons
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JamesPhilips wrote: 09 Apr 2025, 10:57 There are rumours that Usyk is ‘encouraged' to continue boxing for PR and political reasons
Far, far more likely his handlers don't want their percentage money coming in and are in his earhole than Zelenskiiy is sending the heavies round issuing threats; and, most likely of all, Usyk just can't resist one more bite of the cherry. He'll walk into a shot or a bad decision one day, but what's meant to be will be.
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I hope Usyk just retires. He's getting on now, and he relies a lot on sharpness, he would only need to lose a half step at heavyweight to become much more beatable.
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Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois: WBO receives petition to allow undisputed heavyweight championship fight next

With Joseph Parker in wait as the mandatory challenger, the WBO has confirmed to Sky Sports that a petition to allow unified heavyweight champion Oleksandr Usyk to box IBF titlist Daniel Dubois in the undisputed title fight first has been lodged with their Championship Committee

The WBO has received a petition to allow the Oleksandr Usyk vs Daniel Dubois undisputed world heavyweight championship fight to go ahead next.

Unbeaten Ukrainian Usyk remains the unified WBO, WBA and WBC heavyweight world champion. He is due to make a mandatory defence of the WBO belt against New Zealand's Joseph Parker.

But a title unification can take precedence over a mandatory contest and the WBO has confirmed to Sky Sports that a petition to allow Usyk to box IBF titlist Dubois first has been lodged with its Championship Committee.

WBO president Gustavo Olivieri told Sky Sports: "There is a petition before the Championship Committee to consider a Usyk-Dubois unification to consolidate the heavyweight championships.

"Therefore, upon an official ruling regarding this matter, we will publicly announce the official decision, including Parker's mandatory status, if that be the case."

Usyk previously unified all four of the major heavyweight world titles last year when he first beat Tyson Fury. He relinquished the IBF belt to pursue his rematch with Fury and Dubois, then the IBF mandatory, was upgraded to full champion.

A rematch with Dubois, whom Usyk boxed in 2023, would offer the Ukrainian the opportunity to become a three-time, two-weight undisputed champion, a historic achievement for the Olympic gold medallist.

Earlier this week Usyk's promoter Alex Krassyuk revealed to Sky Sports that fighting Dubois is their "priority" over a mandatory defence against Parker.

"If undisputed makes itself possible - it will be the priority," he told Sky Sports.

"We will come to know it within the next couple of days."
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Awful news
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Was this not inevitable from the moment Dubois got ill in Saudi?


Parker is a tough night for Usyk at this stage, he has a better boxing brain than Dubois despite being less of a crusher. I put this down as Usyk's first duck, primarily because the Dubois fight is a bigger draw but also because Parker is the tougher fight technically. Dubois is still hellish risky with Usyk having another two years miles on the clock, though.
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This might be the first Usyk fight in years that I might not be bothered about watching on the night if there isn't a really great undercard.
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joshj909 wrote: 10 Apr 2025, 11:00 This might be the first Usyk fight in years that I might not be bothered about watching on the night if there isn't a really great undercard.
Which I bet there isn't!
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Also feels like Turki might not even be involved. Seems like the promoters are doing the leg work.
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Jimmy2025 wrote: 10 Apr 2025, 10:37 Was this not inevitable from the moment Dubois got ill in Saudi?
I think now (with the benefit of hindsight) that it may have been inevitable after Dubois spoiled Uysk's moment by calling him out in the ring whilst already committed to fighting Parker.
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KiwiRider wrote: 10 Apr 2025, 15:30
Jimmy2025 wrote: 10 Apr 2025, 10:37 Was this not inevitable from the moment Dubois got ill in Saudi?
I think now (with the benefit of hindsight) that it may have been inevitable after Dubois spoiled Uysk's moment by calling him out in the ring whilst already committed to fighting Parker.
I agree.

Then Usyk made it worse when he said he wanted to fight Dubois again.
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Interesting how Usyk's team are coming out with the same spin to avoid Parker that Hearn (and Bricktop actually) was trying in order to make Joshua v Fury for Undisputed, instead of facing the WBO mandatory of that time, Usyk....
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Finkel wrote: 11 Apr 2025, 04:04 Interesting how Usyk's team are coming out with the same spin to avoid Parker that Hearn (and Bricktop actually) was trying in order to make Joshua v Fury for Undisputed, instead of facing the WBO mandatory of that time, Usyk....
Much wants more and loses all.

Usyk would almost certainly have a more contented retirement if he walked away now rather than ending up getting chinned-cold by somebody he has already comprehensively beaten. Greed gets you slain eventually.
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Finkel wrote: 11 Apr 2025, 04:04 Interesting how Usyk's team are coming out with the same spin to avoid Parker that Hearn (and Bricktop actually) was trying in order to make Joshua v Fury for Undisputed, instead of facing the WBO mandatory of that time, Usyk....
This clip captures Uysk (and AJ) reacting to Parker blitzing Bakole out of nowhere...

You can maybe see why fighting Dubois again might be a more comforting prospect than facing Parker.
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Parker is grossly overrated here. The win over Wilder looks less impressive when you see what Zhang did to him, the win over Zhang likewise after Kabayel crushed him. Bakole offered as much resistance as one of those arcade punching machines.

He's still the same middling Joseph Parker, only older. Usyk would cruise to a win over him.
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Billy Tully wrote: 12 Apr 2025, 03:08
He's still the same middling Joseph Parker, only older. Usyk would cruise to a win over him.
No one is overrating Parker and no one has said he would be a favourite against Usyk, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve his shot.

He’s beaten who he has, it’s not down to him how well the fights have aged or not.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 Apr 2025, 06:21
Billy Tully wrote: 12 Apr 2025, 03:08
He's still the same middling Joseph Parker, only older. Usyk would cruise to a win over him.
No one is overrating Parker and no one has said he would be a favourite against Usyk, but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve his shot.

He’s beaten who he has, it’s not down to him how well the fights have aged or not.
He has also been a solid second tier heavyweight for ten years now. That's a little better than 'middling'.
Of course just the thought of Joseph Parker being the new boogyman of the HW division cracks me up :lol:
He definitely isn't that either.
But Kayabel and Parker have both jumped through the hoops to become contenders, it is what it is.
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The more I think about this, the more I think it's criminal that Parker looks like he's going to miss out on a shot at Usyk. I think he gives Usyk his toughest test and that's why it's not going to happen. Usyk's handlers are ducking.
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Jimmy2025 wrote: 12 Apr 2025, 14:20 The more I think about this, the more I think it's criminal that Parker looks like he's going to miss out on a shot at Usyk. I think he gives Usyk his toughest test and that's why it's not going to happen. Usyk's handlers are ducking.
I think Kayabel gives Uysk a tough time as well as Parker, both are mandatories to Uysk.
And yet Dubois is front runner.
While I'm all for unification, Uysk already did that and is the universally recognized champion, and he dominated Dubois.
I'm not calling duck though, Uysk hasn't ducked anyone so far, but from a legacy standpoint, I find it disappointing.
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