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Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 11:21
by black panther
Jimmy2025 wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 10:33
mickey1975 wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 09:26
Syntax Error wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 08:58 I bet Fury's gutted, because he probably wanted to fight Chisora again. :lol:
I bet Usyk isn't. After what he went through last time with Del he'll be praying for a DDD win
:lol: you will bait people in with that line for the rest of your life.
Imagine if Chisora somehow beat DDD, perhaps through injury got a shot at Usyk again and landed a hail Mary shot to become undisputed.....

What would be the odds?

Regardless he earned an absolutely cracking amount for someone with double digit losses.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 11:55
by Frostieballs
This stinks.

It’s certainly immoral / possibly corrupt.

And it’s dangerous.

I’m not a fan of the Saudi takeover or Dana White - but if this is the alternative they may as well have at it.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 12:01
by Jimmy2025
Frostieballs wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 11:55 This stinks.

It’s certainly immoral / possibly corrupt.

And it’s dangerous.

I’m not a fan of the Saudi takeover or Dana White - but if this is the alternative they may as well have at it.
'Hardcore' boxing fans like us are the biggest mugs of them all when you think about it. 'Casuals' lap up the reheated slop they are served by greedy promoters but at least they are ignorant and get to sing Sweet Caroline and Hotel California.

Us idiots actually think boxing might one day be about the best fighting the best rather than just the cash grab it's always been.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 13:38
by gilgamesh
Honestly if Dubois fighting Chisora means that Usyk fights Parker instead of Dubois again in a rematch, I'm for it. Dubois isn't a World Champion to me he's just another Contender. So a fight between him and Chisora for who's one of the Top Contenders in the division. I have no problem with that. I don't think Chisora has any chance, but I've thought that before and been wrong so we'll see.

Should be some good action.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 13:54
by joshj909
If Chisora wins, do we get Chisora vs Kabayel 2 for the belt?

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 13:56
by margaret thatcher
joshj909 wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 13:54 If Chisora wins, do we get Chisora vs Kabayel 2 for the belt?
fury - chisora 4, another courageous comeback for tyson :yay:

and remember that marquez didnt beat pac till the 4th attempt. 4th could be charm for chisora.

so intriguing

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 14:11
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 13:56
joshj909 wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 13:54 If Chisora wins, do we get Chisora vs Kabayel 2 for the belt?
fury - chisora 4, another courageous comeback for tyson :yay:

and remember that marquez didnt beat pac till the 4th attempt. 4th could be charm for chisora.

so intriguing
if Chisora beats Dubois, I think Chisora vs Fury 4 is the only logical option :lol:

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 14:26
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 03:16 Look at his face. He’s clearly reading what someone’s written for him.
Yes I noticed that.
The man is heavyweight champion and yet seems cuckolded out of his own career. :doh:
It's just embarrassing, if he wants to fight someone, just grow a pair and get it done.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 14:50
by Syntax Error
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 14:11
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 13:56
joshj909 wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 13:54 If Chisora wins, do we get Chisora vs Kabayel 2 for the belt?
fury - chisora 4, another courageous comeback for tyson :yay:

and remember that marquez didnt beat pac till the 4th attempt. 4th could be charm for chisora.

so intriguing
if Chisora beats Dubois, I think Chisora vs Fury 4 is the only logical option :lol:
You're probably joking, but I think this is entirely plausible. :brick:

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 15:37
by JamesPhilips
Syntax Error wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 11:19
JamesPhilips wrote: 28 Mar 2025, 14:58 Has Chisora ever had a genuine world class win? He’s basically a journeyman / gatekeeper, albeit an extremey well paid one.
I wouldn't call Chisora a journeyman, but he is a gatekeeper and always has been.

He's a great yardstick for fighters to test whether they're ready for the big time.
Yes. Gatekeeper is the best term

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 15:39
by Ruthless-RKO
Yh he was never a journeyman.

Now Kevin Johnson is a journeyman. He just gives rounds. Doesn’t want to win.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 16:31
by jamesmcdonnell
If Chisora bears Dubois, I think i might die laughing.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 00:34
by Syntax Error
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 16:31 If Chisora bears Dubois, I think i might die laughing.
Me too.

I'd be doubled up on the floor laughing like a Smash Martian.

I'd laugh even more if he decides to defend the title against Tyson Fury, with a rematch clause.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 01:49
by coneye
Frostieballs wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 11:55 This stinks.

It’s certainly immoral / possibly corrupt.

And it’s dangerous.

I’m not a fan of the Saudi takeover or Dana White - but if this is the alternative they may as well have at it.
And THAT my freind is a very very good point , Oh how easy it is to forget , the mismatches we used to get under the guise of building a fighter up , ect ect and all the other associated bullshit , How good its been recently , and then DD pulling out with a mysterious little toe ache , too all of a sudden getting better and calling out the guy he ducked , when its already arranged for him to fight the guy he'll beat .

Boxing at its best or British boxing going back to normal

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 03:23
by KiwiRider
coneye wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 01:49
Frostieballs wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 11:55 This stinks.

It’s certainly immoral / possibly corrupt.

And it’s dangerous.

I’m not a fan of the Saudi takeover or Dana White - but if this is the alternative they may as well have at it.
And THAT my freind is a very very good point , Oh how easy it is to forget , the mismatches we used to get under the guise of building a fighter up , ect ect and all the other associated bullshit , How good its been recently , and then DD pulling out with a mysterious little toe ache , too all of a sudden getting better and calling out the guy he ducked , when its already arranged for him to fight the guy he'll beat .

Boxing at its best or British boxing going back to normal
He might actually lose against Del Boy.
If Chisora really wants to win, he can bang a bit and take a shot if needed.
I'm still not convinced they are actually doing this, and I bet Turki isn't keen on bankrolling it, doesn't seem his style.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 04:06
by Frostieballs
KiwiRider wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 03:23
coneye wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 01:49
Frostieballs wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 11:55 This stinks.

It’s certainly immoral / possibly corrupt.

And it’s dangerous.

I’m not a fan of the Saudi takeover or Dana White - but if this is the alternative they may as well have at it.
And THAT my freind is a very very good point , Oh how easy it is to forget , the mismatches we used to get under the guise of building a fighter up , ect ect and all the other associated bullshit , How good its been recently , and then DD pulling out with a mysterious little toe ache , too all of a sudden getting better and calling out the guy he ducked , when its already arranged for him to fight the guy he'll beat .

Boxing at its best or British boxing going back to normal
He might actually lose against Del Boy.
If Chisora really wants to win, he can bang a bit and take a shot if needed.
I'm still not convinced they are actually doing this, and I bet Turki isn't keen on bankrolling it, doesn't seem his style.
The last person Chisora stopped was David Price in 2019.

He has not competed at anywhere near world level in his last outings - and has shipped a lot of damage.

Should have retired after Joyce - a horrible spectacle.

Anyone promoting this should be prepared to help with Chisora’s future medical bills.

Anything can happen in boxing. But taking into account all the factors we are aware of, this fight shouldn’t be happening.

If we played this out 100 times, it ends badly 99 of them. It’s a terrible precedent.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 06:08
by Gran Hermano
Just please no. If this happens Dubois can fornicate off. Hope Parker sparks him if he ever gets the opportunity

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 08:50
by jamesmcdonnell
Syntax Error wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 00:34
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 16:31 If Chisora bears Dubois, I think i might die laughing.
Me too.

I'd be doubled up on the floor laughing like a Smash Martian.

I'd laugh even more if he decides to defend the title against Tyson Fury, with a rematch clause.
That's great, the Smash martian reference, going to have to steal that for the great library of similies.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 08:53
by jamesmcdonnell
KiwiRider wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 03:23
coneye wrote: 01 Apr 2025, 01:49
Frostieballs wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 11:55 This stinks.

It’s certainly immoral / possibly corrupt.

And it’s dangerous.

I’m not a fan of the Saudi takeover or Dana White - but if this is the alternative they may as well have at it.
And THAT my freind is a very very good point , Oh how easy it is to forget , the mismatches we used to get under the guise of building a fighter up , ect ect and all the other associated bullshit , How good its been recently , and then DD pulling out with a mysterious little toe ache , too all of a sudden getting better and calling out the guy he ducked , when its already arranged for him to fight the guy he'll beat .

Boxing at its best or British boxing going back to normal
He might actually lose against Del Boy.
If Chisora really wants to win, he can bang a bit and take a shot if needed.
I'm still not convinced they are actually doing this, and I bet Turki isn't keen on bankrolling it, doesn't seem his style.
It's highly unlikely, Chisora is very slow these days, and has never been hard to hit.

Most likely dubois smashes him inside 3 rounds, if not sooner.

Would love to be wrong though, this is a really cynical matchup

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 12:26
by chinarich
joshj909 wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 05:08
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 03:16 Look at his face. He’s clearly reading what someone’s written for him.
You think he can read?
:lol:

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 01 Apr 2025, 13:21
by gilgamesh
Syntax Error wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 14:50
gilgamesh wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 14:11
margaret thatcher wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 13:56

fury - chisora 4, another courageous comeback for tyson :yay:

and remember that marquez didnt beat pac till the 4th attempt. 4th could be charm for chisora.

so intriguing
if Chisora beats Dubois, I think Chisora vs Fury 4 is the only logical option :lol:
You're probably joking, but I think this is entirely plausible. :brick:
I was half joking, and honestly I wouldn't mind seeing it play out like that.

Tyson Fury will always be a bigger draw than Dubois or Chisora, so it'd be good for Heavyweight boxing to have him back in the title picture.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 07:31
by tigermoth87
I wish Chisora would go away. Sick of him

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 09:12
by Ruthless-RKO
tigermoth87 wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 07:31 I wish Chisora would go away. Sick of him
Same.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 03 Apr 2025, 05:34
by Syntax Error
tigermoth87 wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 07:31 I wish Chisora would go away. Sick of him
I would also like for him to retire, but for health reasons.

If he continues, he's going to end up brain damaged as he's too tough and brave for his own good.

Re: Daniel Dubois vs. Derek Chisora - IBF Mandatory

Posted: 23 Apr 2025, 18:08
by Ruthless-RKO