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Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 09 Oct 2025, 16:28
by Taansend
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025, 15:15
Taansend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025, 11:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025, 10:30
Might be Hughie Fury then..
I'd actually fornicating love this fight
It’s a very interesting fight and should be an easy hype. Will be £24.99 PPV though
So about $60-$99 here in the US
I can wait 24 hours & watch it for free.
It's been a while but I don't remember Hughie ever looking hurt. Has he been?
And he has his man strength now.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 09 Oct 2025, 17:10
by JamesPhilips
Taansend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025, 16:28
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025, 15:15
Taansend wrote: ↑09 Oct 2025, 11:04
I'd actually fornicating love this fight
It’s a very interesting fight and should be an easy hype. Will be £24.99 PPV though
So about $60-$99 here in the US
I can wait 24 hours & watch it for free.
It's been a while but I don't remember Hughie ever looking hurt. Has he been?
And he has his man strength now.
He’s definitely not been dropped… can’t remember him being hurt though he’s a bit safety first.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 11 Oct 2025, 06:09
by coneye
WOULD'NT mind Fury --- Moses in the least to me its what they keep saying what he needs , a tough durable guy who will give him rnds , doubt they will take it though , there objective seems to be shout at the world how good he is , then tell the world its too early he's only 20 and not offer the fight to anyone who can hit back , whilst trying at the same time to build him up for ppv . Think Franks gonna nurse him for a fair while yet and throw Fabio to the wolves , For me Moses should be in the fights Fabio is in , OK he's only 20 but he's a mature 20 with a solid back ground
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 11 Oct 2025, 07:08
by mickey1975
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 06:09
WOULD'NT mind Fury --- Moses in the least to me its what they keep saying what he needs , a tough durable guy who will give him rnds , doubt they will take it though , there objective seems to be shout at the world how good he is , then tell the world its too early he's only 20 and not offer the fight to anyone who can hit back , whilst trying at the same time to build him up for ppv . Think Franks gonna nurse him for a fair while yet and throw Fabio to the wolves , For me Moses should be in the fights Fabio is in , OK he's only 20 but he's a mature 20 with a solid back ground
He doesn't have the background, though. He never had a senior amateur bout. He needs hard rounds.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 11 Oct 2025, 09:04
by Coco
They are talking about Fury a lot, I'm sure Hughie will give him rounds.
Imagine if Hughie won a wide UD by prodding and poking on the outside
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 11 Oct 2025, 11:12
by Taansend
Coco wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 09:04
They are talking about Fury a lot, I'm sure Hughie will give him rounds.
Imagine if Hughie won a wide UD by prodding and poking on the outside
That would be a great lesson for Moses.
I'm actually hoping Hughie brings that type of fight so we can see how Itauma deals with a boxing match.
What's like in the 9th round when his muscles are screaming & his heads foggy from fatigue?
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 11 Oct 2025, 15:09
by Wales
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 07:08
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 06:09
WOULD'NT mind Fury --- Moses in the least to me its what they keep saying what he needs , a tough durable guy who will give him rnds , doubt they will take it though , there objective seems to be shout at the world how good he is , then tell the world its too early he's only 20 and not offer the fight to anyone who can hit back , whilst trying at the same time to build him up for ppv . Think Franks gonna nurse him for a fair while yet and throw Fabio to the wolves , For me Moses should be in the fights Fabio is in , OK he's only 20 but he's a mature 20 with a solid back ground
He doesn't have the background, though. He never had a senior amateur bout. He needs hard rounds.
Won gold medals in Schools, Juniors, Youth European and Heavyweight Youth World Gold Medal as a junior then went pro in order to make money to support his family.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 11 Oct 2025, 16:58
by coneye
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 07:08
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 06:09
WOULD'NT mind Fury --- Moses in the least to me its what they keep saying what he needs , a tough durable guy who will give him rnds , doubt they will take it though , there objective seems to be shout at the world how good he is , then tell the world its too early he's only 20 and not offer the fight to anyone who can hit back , whilst trying at the same time to build him up for ppv . Think Franks gonna nurse him for a fair while yet and throw Fabio to the wolves , For me Moses should be in the fights Fabio is in , OK he's only 20 but he's a mature 20 with a solid back ground
He doesn't have the background, though. He never had a senior amateur bout. He needs hard rounds.
Terrific jnr record . Then into sparring top pros from what they tell us dropping them . And i agree he does need the rnds but started at 7 thats 13 years in the game and a veery mature young man . Fabio whats he 27 no ameteurs started at 20 ,,21 look who hes fighting . And then tell me which one is being nursed . He needs the rnds but i dont think there looking too hard to get them for him franks stating everyone wants sheep stations to fight him
What does he expect the hype there building around him to try grab ppv money. They cant have it all ways . Mind you if he takes on Hughie Fury and demolishes him i will join the choir . Wecan all see he.s talented butthey need to step him up or zhut up about him . Fury wouldbe a great fight
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 12 Oct 2025, 04:01
by mickey1975
Wales wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 15:09
mickey1975 wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 07:08
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 06:09
WOULD'NT mind Fury --- Moses in the least to me its what they keep saying what he needs , a tough durable guy who will give him rnds , doubt they will take it though , there objective seems to be shout at the world how good he is , then tell the world its too early he's only 20 and not offer the fight to anyone who can hit back , whilst trying at the same time to build him up for ppv . Think Franks gonna nurse him for a fair while yet and throw Fabio to the wolves , For me Moses should be in the fights Fabio is in , OK he's only 20 but he's a mature 20 with a solid back ground
He doesn't have the background, though. He never had a senior amateur bout. He needs hard rounds.
Won gold medals in Schools, Juniors, Youth European and Heavyweight Youth World Gold Medal as a junior then went pro in order to make money to support his family.
I know. It's also a smart business move. Look at the Irish kid, Olaniyan, who did all of the above and stayed amateur. He got beat in the championships in his first season and just lost to England the other day against Matthew Williams. I haven't seen the fight but I'm guessing he got bullied. Williams gets to everyone. All the money has dropped out of Olaniyan now.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 12 Oct 2025, 09:28
by JC
Itauma also clearly seems like one of those Tyson, Rooney type athletes that will hit his physical peak early. So might as well be in the pros for that.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 12 Oct 2025, 10:14
by Taansend
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 16:58 . Fabio whats he 27 no ameteurs started at 20 ,,21 look who hes fighting .
Fabio's almost 31, mate.
I get what you were saying but comparing a 20 year olds career path with a 30 year olds isn't a great indicator.
Plenty of time of Moses to keep learning different styles.
Fabio is banging on the door now. He's been a pro 8 1/2 years. Moses less than 3.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 12 Oct 2025, 15:13
by Coco
Taansend wrote: ↑12 Oct 2025, 10:14
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 16:58 . Fabio whats he 27 no ameteurs started at 20 ,,21 look who hes fighting .
Fabio's almost 31, mate.
I get what you were saying but comparing a 20 year olds career path with a 30 year olds isn't a great indicator.
Plenty of time of Moses to keep learning different styles.
Fabio is banging on the door now. He's been a pro 8 1/2 years. Moses less than 3.
Fabio is now or never, despite his progress being outstanding because of when he started
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 13 Oct 2025, 07:06
by coneye
Coco wrote: ↑12 Oct 2025, 15:13
Taansend wrote: ↑12 Oct 2025, 10:14
coneye wrote: ↑11 Oct 2025, 16:58 . Fabio whats he 27 no ameteurs started at 20 ,,21 look who hes fighting .
Fabio's almost 31, mate.
I get what you were saying but comparing a 20 year olds career path with a 30 year olds isn't a great indicator.
Plenty of time of Moses to keep learning different styles.
Fabio is banging on the door now. He's been a pro 8 1/2 years. Moses less than 3.
Fabio is now or never, despite his progress being outstanding because of when he started
Agreed Fabio does'nt have has much time , But he does have a few years 35 ish seems to be a good age for heavyweights now . However i do agree with JC i think Moses is that sort of kid who's mentaly very mature and likely to hit his physical peak earlier
Non of it matters though , we can all see the sence in get him rnds , he's only young , he needs time and all the other stuff BUT if thats the case fair enough , go down that route , and we all know frank will , he'll probably be 25 before Frank puts him in with a hughie fury , thats all fair enough , However don't shoput from the rooftops on one hand charge PPV and then say on the other hand he needs nursing . He's either the real deal PPV fighter or he's learning , one or the other
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 13 Oct 2025, 11:06
by tony1234
Unless you stack the undercard which is unlikely you can't put Moses in PPV fights against washed up names like Whyte without getting a pushback
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 13 Oct 2025, 18:16
by coneye
tony1234 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025, 11:06
Unless you stack the undercard which is unlikely you can't put Moses in PPV fights against washed up names like Whyte without getting a pushback
THIS ,

Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 13 Oct 2025, 20:03
by KiwiRider
coneye wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025, 18:16
tony1234 wrote: ↑13 Oct 2025, 11:06
Unless you stack the undercard which is unlikely you can't put Moses in PPV fights against washed up names like Whyte without getting a pushback
THIS ,
X2
Well said Tony.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 06:34
by Ruthless-RKO
WBA Order Kubrat Pulev-Moses Itauma In 'Regular' Title Defence, Nov. 14 Deadline
The WBA have today officially ordered current WBA 'Regular' champion Kubrat Pulev to defend his secondary world title against Moses Itauma.
The 20-year-old (13-0, 11 KOs) has pitched stoppage wins over America's overmatched Mike Balogun and longtime contender Dillian Whyte so far this year, but recently rejected a request to face Frank Sanchez (25-1, 18 KOs) in an IBF-mandated title eliminator.
The two sides now have 30 days, until November 14, to reach an agreement before purse bids are called.
This news comes at the expense of Michael Hunter, who was originally on the cusp of challenging Pulev before entertaining a high-stakes matchup with Jarrell Miller as part of the Canelo-Crawford fight week festivities last month. Their proposed bout fell apart at the 11th hour and now, the sanctioning body has rescinded the American's favourable position.
Pulev (32-3, 14 KOs) and Hunter failed to provide them with signed contracts for their matchup, with the former's untimely correspondence delaying a bout first awarded in May that would later fall through.
Hunter (24-1-2, 17 KOs) now moves back of the line while No. 1-rated Itauma assumes the position, provided he accepts their order.
The Ring's 2024 Prospect of the Year has taken the heavyweight division by storm following a string of knockout victories against steady increases in competition.
His first-round finish of former WBC interim titleholder Whyte (31-4, 23 KOs) on August 16 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia headlined a show and allegedly later confirmed there are plans for him to do so again, two weeks before his 21st birthday in Manchester on December 13.
Pulev has gone on a three-fight win streak since being outpointed by Derek Chisora in July 2022 via 10-round split decision. When last seen, the 44-year-old scored a wide points win over Mahmoud Charr last December 7 in his native Bulgaria.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 11:32
by Flump
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025, 06:34
WBA Order Kubrat Pulev-Moses Itauma In 'Regular' Title Defence, Nov. 14 Deadline
The WBA have today officially ordered current WBA 'Regular' champion Kubrat Pulev to defend his secondary world title against Moses Itauma.
The 20-year-old (13-0, 11 KOs) has pitched stoppage wins over America's overmatched Mike Balogun and longtime contender Dillian Whyte so far this year, but recently rejected a request to face Frank Sanchez (25-1, 18 KOs) in an IBF-mandated title eliminator.
The two sides now have 30 days, until November 14, to reach an agreement before purse bids are called.
This news comes at the expense of Michael Hunter, who was originally on the cusp of challenging Pulev before entertaining a high-stakes matchup with Jarrell Miller as part of the Canelo-Crawford fight week festivities last month. Their proposed bout fell apart at the 11th hour and now, the sanctioning body has rescinded the American's favourable position.
Pulev (32-3, 14 KOs) and Hunter failed to provide them with signed contracts for their matchup, with the former's untimely correspondence delaying a bout first awarded in May that would later fall through.
Hunter (24-1-2, 17 KOs) now moves back of the line while No. 1-rated Itauma assumes the position, provided he accepts their order.
The Ring's 2024 Prospect of the Year has taken the heavyweight division by storm following a string of knockout victories against steady increases in competition.
His first-round finish of former WBC interim titleholder Whyte (31-4, 23 KOs) on August 16 in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia headlined a show and allegedly later confirmed there are plans for him to do so again, two weeks before his 21st birthday in Manchester on December 13.
Pulev has gone on a three-fight win streak since being outpointed by Derek Chisora in July 2022 via 10-round split decision. When last seen, the 44-year-old scored a wide points win over Mahmoud Charr last December 7 in his native Bulgaria.
I really hope this doesn't happen, and even more so, get sold as a title fight. Bowling over a middle aged Pulev in one round is not worth anyone's time.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 11:41
by Ruthless-RKO
I’d much rather he fought Sanchez in the eliminator
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 12:23
by big lennox
I'm not sure this fight will tell us anything new.
At 44 years old, out of the ring for over a year by the time of the fight, and flat rather than fleet footed, I'm not convinced that Pulev will be able to keep 20 year old Ituama off him.
I get that they want to build Ituama's profile and another highlight reel ko will assist with that, but I'm not sure he will develop much from this fight.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 13:35
by gilgamesh
big lennox wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025, 12:23
I'm not sure this fight will tell us anything new.
At 44 years old, out of the ring for over a year by the time of the fight, and flat rather than fleet footed, I'm not convinced that Pulev will be able to keep 20 year old Ituama off him.
I get that they want to build Ituama's profile and another highlight reel ko will assist with that, but I'm not sure he will develop much from this fight.
Why do people keep thinking he needs to "develop"
At some point he's gonna be in plenty of fights that are going to force him to either get better or get beat.
If he's still being treated like a carefully matched fringe contender come this time next year it will indeed be quite annoying, but as is he's so much younger than everyone else in the division, and still is like 5 or 6 years away from what should be his physical prime.
Being former World Title Challengers are good notches to add to the record. I personally think he needs to be Usyk's next opponent if it ain't Joseph Parker.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 13:59
by big lennox
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025, 13:35
big lennox wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025, 12:23
I'm not sure this fight will tell us anything new.
At 44 years old, out of the ring for over a year by the time of the fight, and flat rather than fleet footed, I'm not convinced that Pulev will be able to keep 20 year old Ituama off him.
I get that they want to build Ituama's profile and another highlight reel ko will assist with that, but I'm not sure he will develop much from this fight.
Why do people keep thinking he needs to "develop"
At some point he's gonna be in plenty of fights that are going to force him to either get better or get beat.
If he's still being treated like a carefully matched fringe contender come this time next year it will indeed be quite annoying, but as is he's so much younger than everyone else in the division, and still is like 5 or 6 years away from what should be his physical prime.
Being former World Title Challengers are good notches to add to the record. I personally think he needs to be Usyk's next opponent if it ain't Joseph Parker.
Fair points. I'd just like to see him get some rounds under the belt. But, it could be that he is like a young Mike Tyson and genuinely lethal. Certainly looks very, very sharp and precise, but would like to see something come back at him. It might get a bit boring for him turning up and not breaking a sweat.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 14:02
by gilgamesh
I don't think Wilder had even gone beyond like 5 rounds before the first time he went 12 right?
Now granted he couldn't box worth a damn

, but I think even if Itauma retired tomorrow he's already shown more technical skill than Wilder ever did.
It's there. He'll go rounds when he has to. I don't think going rounds necessarily needs to be a major concern. Hell you can have him go 15 or 20 rounds in the gym with fresh opponents if you need to confirm his stamina.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 14:17
by big lennox
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Oct 2025, 14:02
I don't think Wilder had even gone beyond like 5 rounds before the first time he went 12 right?
Now granted he couldn't box worth a damn

, but I think even if Itauma retired tomorrow he's already shown more technical skill than Wilder ever did.
It's there. He'll go rounds when he has to. I don't think going rounds necessarily needs to be a major concern. Hell you can have him go 15 or 20 rounds in the gym with fresh opponents if you need to confirm his stamina.
Ituama has great timing and accuracy, by the looks of it. It's mental stamina rather than physical stamina that I am keen to see develop.
I'm certainly going to enjoy the ride though. A fast, aggressive, big punching heavyweight is always good to watch. I like him as well. Seems a very thoughtful and measured guy.
Re: Moses Itauma vs. TBA - 13 December 2025
Posted: 15 Oct 2025, 15:42
by gilgamesh
Mental stamina never really gets tested until you face real adversity, and i really don't think anyone that ain't at the very top is going to be able to give him much adversity.
Even if they are. They might as well give him that adversity in a Championship bout, that's why I think he needs to be gunning for Usyk sooner than later.