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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:47

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:46 It's a tune up. It's not supposed to be serious. Anthony Joshua is serious. A tune up shouldn't be serious, especially for a matchup that's been delayed by years already due to setbacks.

oh ya sure, but hysa is not 'decent' at all like you say. hes a 42 year old can crusher who was clowned the only time we know of him facing anyone who can box. fury's last opponent big mak would stop him in 1 round

Fine. Hysa is just practice. That's all he needs to be. He's probably at least as credible as Joshua's opponent Prenga is he not? That's all he has to be. This fight isn't supposed to be important, it's the prelude to something important.

We already know Fury has a big fight lined up after this one. So it doesn't matter that this isn't a big one. It wasn't ever expected to be.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:55

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:47

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:46 It's a tune up. It's not supposed to be serious. Anthony Joshua is serious. A tune up shouldn't be serious, especially for a matchup that's been delayed by years already due to setbacks.

oh ya sure, but hysa is not 'decent' at all like you say. hes a 42 year old can crusher who was clowned the only time we know of him facing anyone who can box. fury's last opponent big mak would stop him in 1 round

Fine. Hysa is just practice. That's all he needs to be. He's probably at least as credible as Joshua's opponent Prenga is he not? That's all he has to be. This fight isn't supposed to be important, it's the prelude to something important.

We already know Fury has a big fight lined up after this one. So it doesn't matter that this isn't a big one. It wasn't ever expected to be.

I guess Fury is trying to protect his fight against AJ, by fighting an unbeaten boxer. You know, us lot are far too savvy to not understand the politics of boxing. To the casual Fury is taking on an unbeaten professional boxer.

I can understand the argument if we were wet behind the ears and didn't follow boxing as we do.

For me, as Gilg says it's just a tune up for the biggest none title fight in British boxing history. You know, let's face it, even if Hysa beats Fury, does that mean the Fury v Joshua fight is off? Of course not, but what the win does is sell more tickets and keeps the AJ v Fury an exciting battle before the first bell.

I could understand the grief if Fury was tuning up for a undisputed title fight against this geezer, before the title fight. We could all say, this is not the tune up a ex world champion needs before the biggest fight of his life.

Regardless of this 'tune up' Fury will beat Joshua so it means naff all.

Does it really make any sense to have a warmup like Hysa with the AJ fight around the corner? What can Fury possibly gain from the fight?

ScottDetonator wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:03 Does it really make any sense to have a warmup like Hysa with the AJ fight around the corner? What can Fury possibly gain from the fight?

It's a spar isn't it. Keeps lubricated. That's it. Nothing more nothing less.

Makes sense. Hes with Warren and provides little threat. Also AJ goes to fight the no2 Albanian Heavweight so Fury decides to up him and fight Albania's top dog!

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:46 It's a tune up. It's not supposed to be serious. Anthony Joshua is serious. A tune up shouldn't be serious, especially for a matchup that's been delayed by years already due to setbacks.

Tune-ups like that should be in the gym, and not in front of cameras or a paying audience

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:10

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:46 It's a tune up. It's not supposed to be serious. Anthony Joshua is serious. A tune up shouldn't be serious, especially for a matchup that's been delayed by years already due to setbacks.

Tune-ups like that should be in the gym, and not in front of cameras or a paying audience

Ali fought Jurgen Blin and Al "Blue" Lewis and Jean Pierre Coopman in front of a paying audience.

To me guys should fight more tune ups, not less. I'd rather see guys fight 4 or 5 times a year than 1 or 2. The 3 other ones could be tune ups for all I care.

ScottDetonator wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:03 Does it really make any sense to have a warmup like Hysa with the AJ fight around the corner? What can Fury possibly gain from the fight?

It's probably more keeping him in shape. He'll have wayyyyy tougher sparring partners than Hysa but if he's out of the ring until December he could easily balloon in weight if he doesn't stay focused. If this fight goes on longer than a round then Fury has carried Hysa.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:17

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:10

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 13:46 It's a tune up. It's not supposed to be serious. Anthony Joshua is serious. A tune up shouldn't be serious, especially for a matchup that's been delayed by years already due to setbacks.

Tune-ups like that should be in the gym, and not in front of cameras or a paying audience

Ali fought Jurgen Blin and Al "Blue" Lewis and Jean Pierre Coopman in front of a paying audience.

To me guys should fight more tune ups, not less. I'd rather see guys fight 4 or 5 times a year than 1 or 2. The 3 other ones could be tune ups for all I care.

I don't like imports when a British boxer could earn a few quid instead. Is there a better Brit outside the top 5 who is better than Hysa?

MasterG wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 16:12

gilgamesh wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:17

KiwiRider wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 15:10

Tune-ups like that should be in the gym, and not in front of cameras or a paying audience

Ali fought Jurgen Blin and Al "Blue" Lewis and Jean Pierre Coopman in front of a paying audience.

To me guys should fight more tune ups, not less. I'd rather see guys fight 4 or 5 times a year than 1 or 2. The 3 other ones could be tune ups for all I care.

I don't like imports when a British boxer could earn a few quid instead. Is there a better Brit outside the top 5 who is better than Hysa?

there are at least 20 brits better than hysa

Imagine if both Albanian Chaps win

They could then meet at Wembley with Fury v AJ as the chief support.

Similar opponent levle to AJs... but fury is coming off a semi decent win (top 30ish) and aj is coming of inactivity, a KO loss and horrific car crash... so I can 100 percent see why aj needs a tune up gimmie... can not see why fury does..

It's a pretty minor gamble, but headclash? Lucky punch? Hurt hand? All too bigger risks for what is gained in my opinion.

gregregegg wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 18:37 Similar opponent levle to AJs... but fury is coming off a semi decent win (top 30ish) and aj is coming of inactivity, a KO loss and horrific car crash... so I can 100 percent see why aj needs a tune up gimmie... can not see why fury does..

It's a pretty minor gamble, but headclash? Lucky punch? Hurt hand? All too bigger risks for what is gained in my opinion.

Do back room chats still happen with opponents these days?

MasterG wrote: ↑09 Jun 2026, 02:05

gregregegg wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 18:37 Similar opponent levle to AJs... but fury is coming off a semi decent win (top 30ish) and aj is coming of inactivity, a KO loss and horrific car crash... so I can 100 percent see why aj needs a tune up gimmie... can not see why fury does..

It's a pretty minor gamble, but headclash? Lucky punch? Hurt hand? All too bigger risks for what is gained in my opinion.

Do back room chats still happen with opponents these days?

Of course.
Before pen is put to paper.

Would this be on a IBA pro card?

Taansend wrote: ↑08 Jun 2026, 16:33 Imagine if both Albanian Chaps win

They could then meet at Wembley with Fury v AJ as the chief support.

This is purely for his netflix show I am sure - they'll be promoting the new series like crazy. He is very much a celebrity boxer now.

I was actually warming to the Idea that I had heard that Fury was to fight someone for the Northern Area title - that could have been a real life "Rocky" story.

But both Joshua and Fury fighting shockers but with good records is bizarre to say the least. Are they really trying to con the public that these guys have a shot - I mean Fury's opponent is 41 ffs.

stujones wrote: ↑10 Jun 2026, 09:29 This is purely for his netflix show I am sure - they'll be promoting the new series like crazy. He is very much a celebrity boxer now.

I was actually warming to the Idea that I had heard that Fury was to fight someone for the Northern Area title - that could have been a real life "Rocky" story.

But both Joshua and Fury fighting shockers but with good records is bizarre to say the least. Are they really trying to con the public that these guys have a shot - I mean Fury's opponent is 41 ffs.

Its Haye with Mark De Mori again

I imagine the conversation in Fury's camp was along the lines of "Joshua's fighting who? Who is that? The guy ranked #2 in Albania?? fornicate it, let's get the guy ranked #1 in Albania just to be twats."

So Tyson Fury is rewarding one of his long-time trusted sparring partners with a decent payday opportunity?

At least Nelson Hysa is a much better opponent that Kristian Prenga – if we were comparing Fury and AJ’s opposition for their warm-up bouts.

FYI - Nelson Hysa stopped Mihai Nistor in the amateur ranks (the same man that stopped AJ in the European Championships).

Eolaithe wrote: ↑15 Jun 2026, 12:39 So Tyson Fury is rewarding one of his long-time trusted sparring partners with a decent payday opportunity?

At least Nelson Hysa is a much better opponent that Kristian Prenga – if we were comparing Fury and AJ’s opposition for their warm-up bouts.

FYI - Nelson Hysa stopped Mihai Nistor in the amateur ranks (the same man that stopped AJ in the European Championships).

nothing to suggest hysa is much better than prenga, ferg. id say theyre clearly in the same bracket and need to duke it out to settle the king of albania

hysa will prob be 42 by the time this would happen. the fight with nistor (is footage even available to know what happened?) was almost 20 years ago nistor wouldve been like 17 at the time

this was hysa more recently, getting dropped and clowned by a guy with 0 pro fights

I don't really mind tune-ups, but I think the criticism comes from the timing. If Fury vs Joshua is genuinely next, then every fight beforehand carries unnecessary risk.

Even if Hysa is nowhere near Fury's level, boxing is unpredictable. A cut, a hand injury, a bad clash of heads, or simply a poor performance can create problems.

That said, if the goal is to stay active, sharpen timing under the lights, and generate some publicity before AJ, then I can see why they're doing it. I just don't think anyone is judging Fury's chances against Joshua based on how he performs against Nelson Hysa.

I think the criticism came because this is Boxing and everyone's a critic that follows Boxing. Even a great fight like Wardley vs Dubois was complained about as "Not really that great" as soon as a handful of people were excited about it.

It's a sport where people fight for money and the fans fight amongst themselves about what it all means and what matters and what doesn't.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Jun 2026, 03:10 I think the criticism came because this is Boxing and everyone's a critic that follows Boxing. Even a great fight like Wardley vs Dubois was complained about as "Not really that great" as soon as a handful of people were excited about it.

It's a sport where people fight for money and the fans fight amongst themselves about what it all means and what matters and what doesn't.

ya, everyone's just a critic who complains about everything, surely no other reason people would be critical of an elite heavy facing a 42 year old can crusher who was clowned by an amateur the last time he faced someone decent. absolutely no logical reason to think a very beatable stay busy opponent could still be better than that.

maybe some people are impressed by this boxing from nelson hysa though - how do we rate him from his actual boxing?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Jun 2026, 03:26

gilgamesh wrote: ↑16 Jun 2026, 03:10 I think the criticism came because this is Boxing and everyone's a critic that follows Boxing. Even a great fight like Wardley vs Dubois was complained about as "Not really that great" as soon as a handful of people were excited about it.

It's a sport where people fight for money and the fans fight amongst themselves about what it all means and what matters and what doesn't.

ya, everyone's just a critic who complains about everything, surely no other reason people would be critical of an elite heavy facing a 42 year old can crusher who was clowned by an amateur the last time he faced someone decent. absolutely no logical reason to think a very beatable stay busy opponent could still be better than that.

maybe some people are impressed by this boxing from nelson hysa though - how do we rate him from his actual boxing?

This is a tune up fight. It is what a tune up fight is supposed to be. Easy

Any long time Boxing fan should be familiar with the concept of a tune up fight. Getting mad that an opponent in a tune up fight isn't tough is just stupid. They're not supposed to be all that tough. If they were tough they wouldn't be a tune up would they?