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Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:27
by Slapsie Maxie
I think an interesting take is to try new world versions of grapes in comparison to their old world counterparts
In recent weeks I have done
Californian Vigionier - Condrieu
NZ Sauvignon Blanc ( South Island ) - Loire
Unoaked south African Chard - White Burgundy
NZ Pinot - Burgundy
Zinfandel - Primitivo
Australian Syrah Blend - Northern Rhone
Australian Sangiovese/Cab Sav - Chianti
Argentinian Tempranillo - Rioja
Interesting. On the whole, the NW wines are suitable for drinking immediately and open up. They don't seem to have a lot on the nose, are more fruit driven and don't appear to be worth laying down. The OW are still more challenging ( particularly some of the musty old rioja's like Murrieta ) more taking of the oak ( that fantastic vanilla in some of the NZ Pinot's is the exception ) and worth keeping for a while.
I know the OW are trying to create wines for the younger market with flying wine makers, but I hope they don't lose sight of the interesting wines that make them unique rather than the fruit driven bland monstrosities the supermarkets push out in the name of having certains brands/regions on their shelves.
I buy mine from a wine merchant friend down in Cornwall. I guess £100-150 a case and better than any thing I can get at the Supermarket. I find Oddbins is plummetting in interest, Majestic is OK. Nicolas is pretty good. But, I would rather give a mate the money to deliver the next day that the chains.
Oh, he does an incredible range of sherries too. The San Leon Manzanilla chilled with a few olives is hard to beat
Slapsie
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:32
by J
jamesmcdonnell wrote:J wrote:Chlilean merlot = beer drinker just turned to wine.
i dont mind it to quaff mind, but its not what id call a "proper wine", give me a shiraz blend anyday.
nio eone, you would no doubt have to borrow half my cd collection as Jimmy did

Don't like Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon. I generally like soft spicy wines. Not fond of tannic mouth puckerers. Sangre De Torres is another fave and Rioja is always reliable drinking.
well you liked the shiraz cabernet blend that night round mine you cheeky sod you drank 3 bottles

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:34
by DavidPayne
Are you lot taking the piss.
I have two rules for wine.
For private use £2.99 is my limit
If we're entertaining company, then I may run to £3.99.
With France, Argentian, Italy and yes Chile the destinations of choice.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:35
by J
spoken like a true yorkshireman, stick to your bitter mate.
i wouldnt drink abottle of wine that cost 2.99
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:38
by Slapsie Maxie
J wrote:spoken like a true yorkshireman, stick to your bitter mate.
i wouldnt drink abottle of wine that cost 2.99
My rule is to try just about anything once.
There are actually one or two bargains around ( sherry at M&S for £4.99 - Fino, Manzanilla and Oloroso all excellent ) and often the supermarkets discount so you can buy a £7.99 for £4.99 or below. That's about the only time I spend under a £5
My other rule is Australian wine under £10 is always undrinkable
Slapsie
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:39
by KO Artist
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Clay pigeon shooting, get him! Lord Farquar!
Just about to buy a rowing machine myself, though not one of those concept II's as they are 1200 quid.
go to
http://www.argos-sports.co.yuk
you will find a great range a good prices.
Its where I got mine.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:41
by J
strange i have the same rule for french.
depnd if you are buying bulk or not i guess aswell, a case would know maybe 2-3 quid of the price of a single bottle.
i dont buy single bottles anymore, no point.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:42
by bollox
Slapsie Maxie wrote:J wrote:spoken like a true yorkshireman, stick to your bitter mate.
i wouldnt drink abottle of wine that cost 2.99
My rule is to try just about anything once.
There are actually one or two bargains around ( sherry at M&S for £4.99 - Fino, Manzanilla and Oloroso all excellent ) and often the supermarkets discount so you can buy a £7.99 for £4.99 or below. That's about the only time I spend under a £5
My other rule is Australian wine under £10 is always undrinkable
Slapsie
What's a 6 pack of Tennants Super worth these days?
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One night saw someone drinking one and thought "f*kk it that looks alright, next time on the piss I'm gonna get some". The next night and about 9 cans later I almost died of alcoholic poisoning :x
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:43
by J

9 cans of tennants super

that like nine pints of ine mate.
i wouldnt be so worried about the alcohol poisoning more what you did in the meantime.
jesus.

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:45
by Max Molyneux
How do Rowing Machines benifit you? When I used one ages for a bit I never felt nothing from it.
Is it for flexibility or something?
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:47
by J
Max Molyneux wrote:How do Rowing Machines benifit you? When I used one ages for a bit I never felt nothing from it.
Is it for flexibility or something?
clue: when you are sat on it you pull the handle thing in front of you and move back the forward.
In serioussness rowing is one fo the few excercises(along with swimming) that uses nearly every muscle in your body.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:50
by Max Molyneux
J wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:How do Rowing Machines benifit you? When I used one ages for a bit I never felt nothing from it.
Is it for flexibility or something?
clue: when you are sat on it you pull the handle thing in front of you and move back the forward.
In serioussness rowing is one fo the few excercises(along with swimming) that uses nearly every muscle in your body.
So it's a strength exercise then.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:51
by bollox
Ah well, us foreigners in a strange land will make fools of ourselves
Once went on a drive with a few friends to near the Belgian border and we stopped at a quaint roadside cafe to have a few. An Irishman ordered a bottle of 14% beer and sculled it. He stood up and.......promptly puked all over the table. Needless to say we left in a hurry
Same guy on a weekend in Wales to see a one off All Blacks V Wales rugby at Cardiff Arms - pissed up and had pizzas in one hand and beer in the other walking down the street. He'd take a swig of the beer followed by a mouthful of pizza followed by...........yep, massive puke. Repeat process several times. Reminded me of The Brown Bottle from Viz

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:52
by J
no its everyhting cardio, and uses every muscle in your body...i cant be more specific thn that cos thats exactly what it does.
think aobut it the actual action of rowing, uses your legs, arms shoulders, back stomach the lot.....
due to this its extremely hard on the lungs and heart.
like anything it depends how much you put in.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:58
by KOJOE90
J wrote:Music, im music mental, especially reggae:
Should have come to the Leciester Summer Sundae Festival with me last weekend mate.
As well as many other great bands I saw the great Reggae & Ska icon Rico Rodriguez do an absolute cracking set. I even put on my Trojan Records T-shirt on as a mark of respect and skanked the night away.
Blow, Mr Rico blow...
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:59
by Max Molyneux
Good for Stamina then.
Find Jogging or running harder on the lungs though.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:59
by Chambers2
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 07:59
by jamesmcdonnell
KO Atrist wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Clay pigeon shooting, get him! Lord Farquar!
Just about to buy a rowing machine myself, though not one of those concept II's as they are 1200 quid.
go to
http://www.argos-sports.co.yuk
you will find a great range a good prices.
Its where I got mine.
Yeah just found that site today, it's excellent, they have one for 150 V-Fit Artemis II, which has excellent reviews, think I'm going to go for it.
Whack the Stereo on, half an hour a day, before you know it, fit as a fiddle, or alternatively dead after the 1st day after a massive coronary.
I don't see how anyone could use a rowing machine regularly without getting obvious benefits, it's such hard exercise if you attack the machine, and although you won't get much in the way of muscle mass, you will get stronger as well.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:00
by Max Molyneux
What kind of music is Ska supposed to be?
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:01
by jamesmcdonnell
KOJOE90 wrote:J wrote:Music, im music mental, especially reggae:
Should have come to the Leciester Summer Sundae Festival with me last weekend mate.
As well as many other great bands I saw the great Reggae & Ska icon Rico Rodriguez do an absolute cracking set. I even put on my Trojan Records T-shirt on as a mark of respect and skanked the night away.
Blow, Mr Rico blow...
Wasn't Rico the trombone player from the specials.
I managed to download 'Ghost Town' the other day. It was one of my favourite tunes as a kid, and it's just got better and better with the passing of the years, truly a tune that captured the spirit of the time, and #1 to boot as I recall.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:08
by J
ska is early reggae essentially mate, Desmond dekker was one of the pioneers, damn Koe, that sounds like fun mate. THough some bands replcate sak evn today, the specials and early madness (the prince wa sa tribute to Prince Buster)
And yes Jim it did especially as the specials came form coventry, not the most vibrant of places in the late 70 early 80's.
ive heard talk of them reforming, if so shall i get all over it? could organise a box rec specials reunion piss up hahaha...

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:12
by Max Molyneux
Isn't there a Ska punk too?
Anyway Metal is the way to go.

Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:13
by KOJOE90
Max Molyneux wrote:What kind of music is Ska supposed to be?
You could say it was the granfather of reggae. First there was Ska, then rocksteady (Sometimes called Bluebeat in the UK) and then Reggae.
Ska started in the late 50's early 60's and was at first a mixture of Jamacian Folk, Mento, Calypso and R&B music.
In a nutshell it's a rawer, rougher, faster more dancable version of 'mainstream' reggae eg Bob Marley.
Famous Ska acts include Prince Buster, The Skatalites and Desmond Dekker.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:13
by J
yeah i guess, the beat and some of the clash tunes cross musical divides.
Posted: 16 Aug 2005, 08:14
by J
KOJOE90 wrote:Max Molyneux wrote:What kind of music is Ska supposed to be?
You could say it was the granfather of reggae. First there was Ska, then rocksteady (Sometimes called Bluebeat in the UK) and then Reggae.
Ska started in the late 50's early 60's and was at first a mixture of Jamacian Folk, Mento, Calypso and R&B music.
In a nutshell it's a rawer, rougher, faster more dancable version of 'mainstream' reggae eg Bob Marley.
Famous Ska acts include Prince Buster, The Skatalites and Desmond Dekker.
nice more eloquently put than my goodself. one of my favourite tunes by the Ethiopeans
"train to skaville"
makes me wanna smoke
