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Posted: **01 Feb 2006, 14:08**

jomothepure wrote:Any word on what the next EBU fight will be? Will Krasniqi take it up?

It is rumuored that Luan fights Brewster again and Universum wants the title back. So it could be that they send SSS to beat Vidoz. That´s realistic

Posted: **01 Feb 2006, 14:58**

BubiScholz wrote:
jomothepure wrote:Any word on what the next EBU fight will be? Will Krasniqi take it up?
It is rumuored that Luan fights Brewster again and Universum wants the title back. So it could be that they send SSS to beat Vidoz. That´s realistic

Oh yeah, what a prat - I forgot about the rematch being touted. SSS would seem very viable then. Hoffman will also be there or thereabouts in a few months too.

Any idea what Universum are doing with shortround Hersisia?

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 03:52**

jomothepure wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
jomothepure wrote:Any word on what the next EBU fight will be? Will Krasniqi take it up?
It is rumuored that Luan fights Brewster again and Universum wants the title back. So it could be that they send SSS to beat Vidoz. That´s realistic
Oh yeah, what a prat - I forgot about the rematch being touted. SSS would seem very viable then. Hoffman will also be there or thereabouts in a few months too.

Any idea what Universum are doing with shortround Hersisia?

He is not under contract at Universum. He is under contract at Olaf Schröder. I can´t imagine that Klaus-Peter Kohl gives such a crap boxer a contract. He got KOed by the "Parcel Force", the winner of the golden lemon of boxing 2005. I could only imagine that Spotlight gives him a contract as a victim for all the young guys, e.g. the Roth brothers, on the undercard of the great "Eurosport" events.

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 05:23**

BubiScholz wrote:
jomothepure wrote:
BubiScholz wrote: It is rumuored that Luan fights Brewster again and Universum wants the title back. So it could be that they send SSS to beat Vidoz. That´s realistic
Oh yeah, what a prat - I forgot about the rematch being touted. SSS would seem very viable then. Hoffman will also be there or thereabouts in a few months too.

Any idea what Universum are doing with shortround Hersisia?
He is not under contract at Universum. He is under contract at Olaf Schröder. I can´t imagine that Klaus-Peter Kohl gives such a crap boxer a contract. He got KOed by the "Parcel Force", the winner of the golden lemon of boxing 2005. I could only imagine that Spotlight gives him a contract as a victim for all the young guys, e.g. the Roth brothers, on the undercard of the great "Eurosport" events.

Hersisia's record statwise is not so bad can't say the same for his opposition though! So they'll probably use him as a stepping stone.

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 05:40**

nickd wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
jomothepure wrote: Oh yeah, what a prat - I forgot about the rematch being touted. SSS would seem very viable then. Hoffman will also be there or thereabouts in a few months too.

Any idea what Universum are doing with shortround Hersisia?
He is not under contract at Universum. He is under contract at Olaf Schröder. I can´t imagine that Klaus-Peter Kohl gives such a crap boxer a contract. He got KOed by the "Parcel Force", the winner of the golden lemon of boxing 2005. I could only imagine that Spotlight gives him a contract as a victim for all the young guys, e.g. the Roth brothers, on the undercard of the great "Eurosport" events.
Hersisia's record statwise is not so bad can't say the same for his opposition though! So they'll probably use him as a stepping stone.

yup, he won against D-class opponent and lost vs. C-class Parcel-Force..........

and he is not under contract at Universum, he just appeared on the Ragosina-undercard, an SES-event. Steinforth has only a cooperation with Universum. His german manager, Olaf Schröder, tries to make fights in Germany. I can imagine that the boxing scene in Holland is not that great.......

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 06:06**

BubiScholz wrote:
nickd wrote:
BubiScholz wrote: He is not under contract at Universum. He is under contract at Olaf Schröder. I can´t imagine that Klaus-Peter Kohl gives such a crap boxer a contract. He got KOed by the "Parcel Force", the winner of the golden lemon of boxing 2005. I could only imagine that Spotlight gives him a contract as a victim for all the young guys, e.g. the Roth brothers, on the undercard of the great "Eurosport" events.
Hersisia's record statwise is not so bad can't say the same for his opposition though! So they'll probably use him as a stepping stone.
yup, he won against D-class opponent and lost vs. C-class Parcel-Force.......... and he is not under contract at Universum, he just appeared on the Ragosina-undercard, an SES-event. Steinforth has only a cooperation with Universum. His german manager, Olaf Schröder, tries to make fights in Germany. I can imagine that the boxing scene in Holland is not that great.......

Its not great. Their fighters can win Dutch titles by beating foreigners!

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 06:30**

nickd wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
nickd wrote: Hersisia's record statwise is not so bad can't say the same for his opposition though! So they'll probably use him as a stepping stone.
yup, he won against D-class opponent and lost vs. C-class Parcel-Force.......... and he is not under contract at Universum, he just appeared on the Ragosina-undercard, an SES-event. Steinforth has only a cooperation with Universum. His german manager, Olaf Schröder, tries to make fights in Germany. I can imagine that the boxing scene in Holland is not that great.......
Its not great. Their fighters can win Dutch titles by beating foreigners!

how many professional boxers has Holland? 5?

I only know Hersisia and Lucia Rijker......

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 06:31**

BubiScholz wrote:
nickd wrote:
BubiScholz wrote: yup, he won against D-class opponent and lost vs. C-class Parcel-Force.......... and he is not under contract at Universum, he just appeared on the Ragosina-undercard, an SES-event. Steinforth has only a cooperation with Universum. His german manager, Olaf Schröder, tries to make fights in Germany. I can imagine that the boxing scene in Holland is not that great.......
Its not great. Their fighters can win Dutch titles by beating foreigners!
how many professional boxers has Holland? 5? I only know Hersisia and Lucia Rijker......

Joval.

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 06:38**

They have 21 pro boxers (more than ie Denmark)

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 06:57**

BubiScholz wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
nickd wrote:He fought for a European title once and was dropped 3 times in a 6 round humiliation. That to me suggests a failing at that level! Its not like Sam was anything special and went on to win fights at the top level.

How is he top Euro level? What fights has he won at that level?
How is Vidoz top level when he beat Sprott who Danny already Ko'ed twice and Koc was already owned by Sprott.

The guys on his record were and are rated in the EBU so he is Euro class he beat Sprott who has beaten Hoffman and Koc and Harrison was and is in the top 10 EBU ratings although he is a fruad and he beat Bonin who was rated by the EBU.

With Sauerland and Universum around they'll probably try to hog the EBU.
Sprott was the EU title holder and the best rated available guy because Wladi, Luan, Valuev and Sam didn´t want to fight.

The voluntary defence against Koc was a deal from Sauerland. both, Vidoz and Sprott, had to sign. that´s the reason why the Sprott-Vidoz fight took place in Germany. winner had to fight Koc in Germany. Vidoz is not promoted by Sauerland.

And? Koc was clearly not worthy of that shot and just got owned by Sprott before that!

He maybe not promoted by him but Sauerland could of found someone better.

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 08:05**

Max Molyneux wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: How is Vidoz top level when he beat Sprott who Danny already Ko'ed twice and Koc was already owned by Sprott.

The guys on his record were and are rated in the EBU so he is Euro class he beat Sprott who has beaten Hoffman and Koc and Harrison was and is in the top 10 EBU ratings although he is a fruad and he beat Bonin who was rated by the EBU.

With Sauerland and Universum around they'll probably try to hog the EBU.
Sprott was the EU title holder and the best rated available guy because Wladi, Luan, Valuev and Sam didn´t want to fight.

The voluntary defence against Koc was a deal from Sauerland. both, Vidoz and Sprott, had to sign. that´s the reason why the Sprott-Vidoz fight took place in Germany. winner had to fight Koc in Germany. Vidoz is not promoted by Sauerland.
And? Koc was clearly not worthy of that shot and just got owned by Sprott before that!

He maybe not promoted by him but Sauerland could of found someone better.

Valuev fought for the WBA title, Sam went to Universum and Hoffmann disappointed him. And he wants that fornicating title. He won the purse bid and gave Koc a chance. Good work from the view of a Promoter.

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 08:09**

BubiScholz wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:
BubiScholz wrote: Sprott was the EU title holder and the best rated available guy because Wladi, Luan, Valuev and Sam didn´t want to fight.

The voluntary defence against Koc was a deal from Sauerland. both, Vidoz and Sprott, had to sign. that´s the reason why the Sprott-Vidoz fight took place in Germany. winner had to fight Koc in Germany. Vidoz is not promoted by Sauerland.
And? Koc was clearly not worthy of that shot and just got owned by Sprott before that!

He maybe not promoted by him but Sauerland could of found someone better.
Valuev fought for the WBA title, Sam went to Universum and Hoffmann disappointed him. And he wants that fornicating title. He won the purse bid and gave Koc a chance. Good work from the view of a Promoter.

Purse bid? I thought he had a 3 fight deal on Vidoz.

Then he should throw someone good at him not Koc.

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 08:15**

Max Molyneux wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote: And? Koc was clearly not worthy of that shot and just got owned by Sprott before that!

He maybe not promoted by him but Sauerland could of found someone better.
Valuev fought for the WBA title, Sam went to Universum and Hoffmann disappointed him. And he wants that fornicating title. He won the purse bid and gave Koc a chance. Good work from the view of a Promoter.
Purse bid? I thought he had a 3 fight deal on Vidoz.

Then he should throw someone good at him not Koc.

Sauerland was convinced that Koc could beat Vidoz and he has no better heavy. and he only had a 2-fight-deal with vidoz after the surprising win vs Hoffmann. Vidoz came in as a last minute replacement for Sprott. the EBU ordered that the winner has to fight Sprott. Sauerland made contracts with Vidoz and Sprott for max. 2 fights. Do you now understand?

Posted: **02 Feb 2006, 19:24**

Tell me what I don't know.

Posted: **03 Feb 2006, 04:21**

Max Molyneux wrote:Tell me what I don't know.

I don´t have that much time.

Posted: **03 Feb 2006, 06:23**

Then why do you have the time to post here then?

Posted: **03 Feb 2006, 07:11**

Max Molyneux wrote:Then why do you have the time to post here then?

I think I posted all facts to the Sprott-Vidoz-Koc-Hoffmann theme to give you the information. If you are not able to bring it together then it is a waste of time to explain it again. end of discussion.

Posted: **03 Feb 2006, 07:48**

BubiScholz wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Then why do you have the time to post here then?
I think I posted all facts to the Sprott-Vidoz-Koc-Hoffmann theme to give you the information. If you are not able to bring it together then it is a waste of time to explain it again. end of discussion.

It was more of a waste telling me what I already knew.

Posted: **03 Feb 2006, 08:58**

Max Molyneux wrote:
BubiScholz wrote:
Max Molyneux wrote:Then why do you have the time to post here then?
I think I posted all facts to the Sprott-Vidoz-Koc-Hoffmann theme to give you the information. If you are not able to bring it together then it is a waste of time to explain it again. end of discussion.
It was more of a waste telling me what I already knew.

why did you then ask such stupid questions about it?

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