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Posted: 29 Mar 2006, 17:51
by nickd
Ok, well Hatton certainly wouldn't be fighting in America if he was still with Warren. And lets be honest he is going to have to if he wants fights with the likes of Mayweather, Cotto etc.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:19
by boxingchat
John Dillinger wrote:
boxingchat wrote:In fact the records state that on many occasions he received mon ey over and above his entitlement's as well as expensive gifts, cars, cruises blah blah blah.
You mean that car thats actually leased and still belongs to SN? Hardly a "gift" is it when Ricky doesn't own it :lol:

Very generous
The one he still drives all the way to the MEN for his free tickets. Such a proud man is our Ricky.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:21
by nickd
boxingchat wrote:
John Dillinger wrote:
boxingchat wrote:In fact the records state that on many occasions he received mon ey over and above his entitlement's as well as expensive gifts, cars, cruises blah blah blah.
You mean that car thats actually leased and still belongs to SN? Hardly a "gift" is it when Ricky doesn't own it :lol:

Very generous
The one he still drives all the way to the MEN for his free tickets. Such a proud man is our Ricky.
Why wouldn't he take free tickets? Hatton is obviously a huge boxing fan and his face is seen at a lot of the UK cards.

Whats scandalous is that Warren offers him the free tickets just so he can think he got one over on him and can then trash him afterwards rather than the olive branch Hatton obviously thought it was.

Hatton has class.....

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:23
by boxingchat
Olive Branch my arse.

Did he say thanks, no did he write and say thanks no.

Take your rosy coloured glasses off and see these people for what they are. Classless, greedy and ungracious.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:25
by boxingchat
Has he not already fought in the Staes with Warren. Did he not top a bill in Detroit, fight at MSG and AC?

Did he actually want to fight in the States? did he, do you know that for a fact?

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:26
by hitman_hatton1
nickd wrote:Ok, well Hatton certainly wouldn't be fighting in America if he was still with Warren. And lets be honest he is going to have to if he wants fights with the likes of Mayweather, Cotto etc.
warren was too stubborn his own good.

all he had to do was come back with a better offer and all would likely be fine now. :roll:

we'd have ricky hatton fighting for free on itv. :box: nevermind though frank. :o

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:37
by nickd
boxingchat wrote:Has he not already fought in the Staes with Warren. Did he not top a bill in Detroit, fight at MSG and AC?

Did he actually want to fight in the States? did he, do you know that for a fact?
Yes but that was a long time ago, and there was no prospect of Warren allowing him to fight stateside while he could pull in punters at the MEN.

Obviously Hatton does want to fight in the States as he is doing so! And he has long talked about wanting to do it.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 06:58
by boxingchat
He's talked about fighting Witter too! :lol:

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 07:00
by boxingchat
How would Ricky get those hugh purses if he were to fight Pre-Tszyu in the US for a WBU title?

Neither Showtime or HBO would have paid any big fees at that stage and Sky wouldn't have been too pleased with late night starts against the pony opponents Ray insisted on.

It make perfect promtional sense to stay in his home town for everyone. I hate to disappoint you but the streets of the US are not paved in gold.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 07:22
by nickd
My point is brains, even post Tszyu Warren would not have been keen for Hatton to fight in the US in fact I think he would have been dead against the idea. Shame we never got the chance to find out. :lol: :lol:

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 07:24
by boxingchat
he turned the offers down.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 07:29
by lirva33
boxingchat wrote:he turned the offers down.
Thats obvious to anyone who isn't biased!

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 07:53
by jamesmcdonnell
and of course Boxingchat wouldn't be at all biased would he? :roll:

That point aside, I this most agree that Hatton earned very nicely considering he owned a meaningless belt prior to beating Tszyu.

I also don't know that Warren would never have allowed him stateside.

I also reckon that the fight with Maussa would have been made, and there's nothing to suggest to me that Collazo couldn't have been tempted onto British soil for a late nighter shown on Showtime.

Is fighting in Boston a really good deal? Hatton was talking about the MGM Grand, Caeasar's Palace and MSG (not monosodium glutamate).

I'm sure Hatton is making good money, not sure sure about the $6m, which sounds a lot for a fight in Boston against Collazo, not sure what HBO are handing over as part of their three fight? deal, but this seems a very large payment for a ho-hum fight. I know Hatton is exciting, but is he THAT big a star to commands that sort of fee, and turn a profit for the promoters?

Would take a lot of PPV buys to support that.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 07:56
by nickd
jamesmcdonnell wrote:and of course Boxingchat wouldn't be at all biased would he? :roll:

That point aside, I this most agree that Hatton earned very nicely considering he owned a meaningless belt prior to beating Tszyu.

I also don't know that Warren would never have allowed him stateside.

I also reckon that the fight with Maussa would have been made, and there's nothing to suggest to me that Collazo couldn't have been tempted onto British soil for a late nighter shown on Showtime.

Is fighting in Boston a really good deal? Hatton was talking about the MGM Grand, Caeasar's Palace and MSG (not monosodium glutamate).

I'm sure Hatton is making good money, not sure sure about the $6m, which sounds a lot for a fight in Boston against Collazo, not sure what HBO are handing over as part of their three fight? deal, but this seems a very large payment for a ho-hum fight. I know Hatton is exciting, but is he THAT big a star to commands that sort of fee, and turn a profit for the promoters?

Would take a lot of PPV buys to support that.
The fights in Vegas and MSG will happen. Hatton is being payed by HBO but also getting a chunk of Sky money on top of that. So he's probably earning close to what Mayweather gets from HBO plus the UK money on top of that. I'm sure it must be a hefty sum.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 08:38
by boxingchat
Is that what they told you. God you really are a fool.

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 08:40
by nickd
boxingchat wrote:Is that what they told you. God you really are a fool.
Who told me? I go by what I have read, please tell me where you are getting your info from other than the grapevine. :P

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 12:56
by boxingchat
The horses mouth and I've seen letters signed by Hatton and co :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 30 Mar 2006, 12:56
by nickd
boxingchat wrote:The horses mouth and I've seen letters signed by Hatton and co :lol: :lol: :lol:
Along with the 3 fight agreement? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 07:51
by John Dillinger
boxingchat wrote:The horses mouth and I've seen letters signed by Hatton and co :lol: :lol: :lol:
You've not seen the agreement with AP and FA though have you?

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 08:41
by boxingchat
I think I know a bit more about Art Pellullo than you do.

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 10:24
by John Dillinger
boxingchat wrote:I think I know a bit more about Art Pellullo than you do.
Well done, I'm chuffed for you, I really am.

Now, have you seen the agreement or not?

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 11:31
by boxingchat
Terence wrote:Boxingchat, so did Ricky leave Warren to earn LESS money than allegedly Frank could get him? If so what does that say about SN?!
It certainly appears that way. My neighbours lawn looks lovely too!

Posted: 31 Mar 2006, 11:31
by boxingchat
John Dillinger wrote:
boxingchat wrote:I think I know a bit more about Art Pellullo than you do.
Well done, I'm chuffed for you, I really am.

Now, have you seen the agreement or not?
No