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boxingchat wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Terence wrote: Max, Joe won't make a million for fighting TBA (as no one else has stepped forward) on ITV no matter how many people tune in. On the other hand as part of a PPV promotion it is conceivable that he will make that much money and then some. How much did Ricky make for his last PPV fight against a relatively unknown Coloumbian. The job of a promoter/manager/allegedly FW is to get the best deal financial and otherwise for his fighter, the Woods fight is the best deal but it seems that pride is impinging upon Frank. He should make the PPV deal and make Jope some money, in 5 years Joe will have greatly reduced earning capabilities and SN will not, they should do right by him now.

As for selling a fighter, SN have had years of experience yet after 18 defences Joe was a virtual unknown outside boxing forums, until he beat Lacy and that still won't get him a million. The reason the Jones fight was only briefly mooted is that Jones, even in this faded state, would require big money and SN don't have it to splash about.

You are obviously a big Joe fan but don't let it cloud your judgement as to his one-fight earning capabilities. When Audley Harrison turned pro (with no title defences) he was a bigger name than Joe and on what £100,000 a fight? Fast forward to a stinking defeat and Audley is still as big a name as Joe. Joe is a good fighter but he is not charismatic or lucid enough to win universal public love and acclaim, many hard-core fans (myself included) still find him pretty horrible to watch most of the time and the general public will get excited about this one fight (Lacy) then fade when they realise he is fighting a nothing fight in June.

It sounds like SN are using his recent fleeting (IMO) fame to fill their coffers with a "homecoming" fight. Maybe that Sky fiasco hit them harder than we think?

I reckon if they put a fight together in Wales at a big venue in the Summer, they could probably make Joe a million, primarily from getting a big gate. Audley was on 100k a fight, but he was a novice professional

I agree though that Joe is not charismatic, and he will fade into the background pretty fast unless they capitalise on his performance against Lacy.

If I were a promoter, what I would do is get Joe a defence against a decent opponent, though nobody special lined up for summer, based in a big venue is Wales, (when does the world cup finish though) and ensure that it is screened prime time in the UK, to build the fan base for the next fight. 2 Million watched the last one, but they could get 10 million in prime time.

eatsleepbox99 wrote:he quite rightly believes he can earn more money for the fight.
I am still waiting for you to tell me when Joe has been paid more than 1m!

Terence wrote:

Max Molyneux wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote: I reckon if they put a fight together in Wales at a big venue in the Summer, they could probably make Joe a million, primarily from getting a big gate. Audley was on 100k a fight, but he was a novice professional

I agree though that Joe is not charismatic, and he will fade into the background pretty fast unless they capitalise on his performance against Lacy.

If I were a promoter, what I would do is get Joe a defence against a decent opponent, though nobody special lined up for summer, based in a big venue is Wales, (when does the world cup finish though) and ensure that it is screened prime time in the UK, to build the fan base for the next fight. 2 Million watched the last one, but they could get 10 million in prime time.

Terrence, how do you know Joe will fight TBA though?

Max, because he has a fight scheduled for June and the foe is (drum roll!) To Be Announced

topper123 wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote: - and has offered Woods £400,000 for the eve of the world cup final on ITV.

Well at least it would give the Welsh fans something to cheer, only for 24hrs though, as England lift the world cup the next day

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

topper123 wrote:

viciousmaussa wrote: - and has offered Woods £400,000 for the eve of the world cup final on ITV.

Well at least it would give the Welsh fans something to cheer, only for 24hrs though, as England lift the world cup the next day

no chance.

calzaghe-woods ain't happening.

warren and FA need to stop being pathetic and give the fans what they want.

boxingchat wrote:

eatsleepbox99 wrote:he quite rightly believes he can earn more money for the fight.
I am still waiting for you to tell me when Joe has been paid more than 1m!

Mind your own business you nosey person! On what basis is he worth more then, give me some figures on how a show is put together I need a laugh.