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boxingchat wrote:It's an awful book and he must be wishing that FW's NOTW column doesn't respond to his comments throughout.

For me he comes across as a drunken slob as opposed to a world class athlete. He dissis other fighters which is poor and he disrespects the sport by his drinking antics. Has no regard for his well beinhg drinking so close after a fight. God help him if he ever has a problem and needs the Hospital. It's the only book I've ever read that makde me angry due to the constant crap written throughout. Poorly written by a fellow piss artist Niall Hickman.

Still make a great doorstop!

boxingchat wrote:James, James, James, you are missing the point. I couldn't care less about his drinking habits or his social life and as for his shit shirt day's I cannot tell one from the other with his dress sense either. However, I do care about the image of the sport and about fighters in general and if Hatton (God forbid) or any fighter get's injured in the ring or suffers complications afterwards (Like poor Bradley Stone or Mark Goult, both who had not drunk incidentally) then I would hate to see a fighter left brain damaged or dead because he had got pissed after a fight with hius back-slapping pals and this prevented him getting the immedite attention he would need to save his life. That is my point. Drinking after a fight is agsint Board ruiles and highly dangerous and anyone who does it is endangering their lifes and the sport they represent. Furthermore, a fightyer who is quite obviously on the brink of alcoholism is blowing up to what looks like Light-Heavy has to crash his weight and again puts himself in danger whilst in the ring.

It's just downright irresponsible and just because great fighters do it/did it doesn't mean it's okay. If just one does it and loses his life or ends up brain damaged then they suffer, their family suffers and the sport takes the blame simple as that. HAtton is being unprofessional as arer the team around him for letting him do it and so openly as well.

As for your question about Chavez, yes I have and many others too.

Here endeth the lesson.

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

boxingchat wrote:James, James, James, you are missing the point. I couldn't care less about his drinking habits or his social life and as for his shit shirt day's I cannot tell one from the other with his dress sense either. However, I do care about the image of the sport and about fighters in general and if Hatton (God forbid) or any fighter get's injured in the ring or suffers complications afterwards (Like poor Bradley Stone or Mark Goult, both who had not drunk incidentally) then I would hate to see a fighter left brain damaged or dead because he had got pissed after a fight with hius back-slapping pals and this prevented him getting the immedite attention he would need to save his life. That is my point. Drinking after a fight is agsint Board ruiles and highly dangerous and anyone who does it is endangering their lifes and the sport they represent. Furthermore, a fightyer who is quite obviously on the brink of alcoholism is blowing up to what looks like Light-Heavy has to crash his weight and again puts himself in danger whilst in the ring.

It's just downright irresponsible and just because great fighters do it/did it doesn't mean it's okay. If just one does it and loses his life or ends up brain damaged then they suffer, their family suffers and the sport takes the blame simple as that. HAtton is being unprofessional as arer the team around him for letting him do it and so openly as well.

As for your question about Chavez, yes I have and many others too.

Here endeth the lesson.

BC your doing what is know as hating. Ricky Hatton is the 1 of the best conditioned fighters in the sport despite his drinking habbits, if he god forbid does get hurt in the ring (which is unlikely with a protected career) it will be down to his poor defensive abilities and fighting style.

Anyway I'd love to hear you debating the points he brought up and tell us some inside details - past and present. Thanks

J wrote:PROMOTING TYSON EQUATES TO MAKING A FAST BUCK NO?

irrespective of the rape charges the cannibal should never have been allowed to box again after what he did to Holyfield.

Yet SN were happy to promote his visit and fight in the UK.

And that is upholding the spirit of sport that you amke out to care so much about

really you are talking the most charlie ollocks.

boxingchat wrote:James, James, James, you are missing the point. I couldn't care less about his drinking habits or his social life and as for his shit shirt day's I cannot tell one from the other with his dress sense either. However, I do care about the image of the sport and about fighters in general and if Hatton (God forbid) or any fighter get's injured in the ring or suffers complications afterwards (Like poor Bradley Stone or Mark Goult, both who had not drunk incidentally) then I would hate to see a fighter left brain damaged or dead because he had got pissed after a fight with hius back-slapping pals and this prevented him getting the immedite attention he would need to save his life. That is my point. Drinking after a fight is agsint Board ruiles and highly dangerous and anyone who does it is endangering their lifes and the sport they represent. Furthermore, a fightyer who is quite obviously on the brink of alcoholism is blowing up to what looks like Light-Heavy has to crash his weight and again puts himself in danger whilst in the ring.

It's just downright irresponsible and just because great fighters do it/did it doesn't mean it's okay. If just one does it and loses his life or ends up brain damaged then they suffer, their family suffers and the sport takes the blame simple as that. HAtton is being unprofessional as arer the team around him for letting him do it and so openly as well.

As for your question about Chavez, yes I have and many others too.

Here endeth the lesson.

Wrists wrote:Boxing Chat - You can't condemn someone like Hatton for having a few drinks yet stick up for Tyson (convicted rapist) it don't add up.

To then justify your comments with 'Tyson was stitched up' is absolutely hilarious

Listen mate - you obviously have a lot more inside info than most so you konw boxing but your diatrabe against anything now FW or SN is now very boring, very boring indeed.

When Hatton fought Kosta I bet you were strapping yourself off everyone else.

Your boring, yes I know my biting is playing into your hands but why can't you just argue points without huge bias!!

Yes yes yes I defend Calzaghe maybe a little too much but there is a difference between what I say and defending a convicted rapist yet slating a decent guy like Hatton!!!

Get a life

PS. How was the commission from the Tyson bill? Bet you spent that on getting pissed and a lap dance!

Regards

Wrists

boxingchat wrote:

J wrote:PROMOTING TYSON EQUATES TO MAKING A FAST BUCK NO?

irrespective of the rape charges the cannibal should never have been allowed to box again after what he did to Holyfield.

Yet SN were happy to promote his visit and fight in the UK.

And that is upholding the spirit of sport that you amke out to care so much about

really you are talking the most charlie ollocks.

Good Point but I've never been involved with MT or SN so your point somewhat falls on it's jacksie, does it not?

boxingchat wrote:

stujones wrote:

boxingchat wrote:Good debate, yes, but as far a resolution I don't think there is one. When a fighter pulls out it is a bummer all round but usually, the show is up and running and the Promter has already invested a significant amount of money, has contracted with other fighters and has stumped up for venue, hotel, flights etc in advance.

Cancelling shows is not great for TV, the sport in general or the fighters who are themselves training and incurring ex's all the time.

Cancelling or postponing is certainly not the easy option in any way, moreso for bigger shows.

It's not all win, win, win for promoters I can assure you hence the dwindling amount of Promoters still in the game. Fighters cause most of the problems but the Promoters are the easy target.

And before anyone mentions insurance, ring for a quote!

Good response, I can see the sense in what your saying.

What was your answer to my suggestion re Nelson/Murray (i.e. put them fights on a smaller bill, which could be easily cancelled).

I'm sure you are aware that for a lot of the hardcore fans it was these two fights specifically were the main reason for going. Even though Calzaghe is the official main event, he was seen largely as a bonus attraction to the hardcore. As you said (and I agree), it is hard to cancel big shows especially for official undercard fights. So why not put them (as these have been two inactive fighters) on a seperate card that would be easier to cancel?

Just a thought, I do understand the predicament - its a bummer all round.

Nelson is/was a world champion and as such would not want to fight on a smaller show for the sort of purses those type of shows could suffer. Fighters have demands and Nelson is no different and rightly so. Promoters have contracts with Boxers that provide Guaranteed purses and therefore this is a non-starter.

As for Murray, this fight was won via a purse offer and Murray was not allowed to fight for 28 days beofre the submitted date under the strict terms of a purse offer. He chose to fight 29 days before and fought over ten round for a lightweight title, although he weighed in slightly over Super-Feather (Nothing wrong with that but a gamble nonethe less and the Baord should protect Promoters by making it a 45 day limit IMO) He now say's he can't make the weight so in this instance Warren has been let down by Murray and his team. However, if Murray doesn't feel strong at 130 then we have to respect that decision and move on rather than have a risky and dangerous situation with a drained fighter. For me, I think he was wary of Burns beating him and this prompted his decision. whether that was a good move or a bad move remains to be seen.

Be assured, Promoters want to make the big and interesting fights it's the fighters who often don't want them (Regardless of what they say in public, trust me) Do you think a Promoter would rather run small and insignificant events or large and high-profile ones?

Just read Hatton's book and the crap he is spewing on this particular subject is unbelievable. He chose every one of his opponents and turned down many good fights and fighters and preferred the easy jobs all day long.

As his father once said Ricky could fill the MEN fighting Mickey mouse why take risks, such is his respect for the punters money! He criticises Holbaek and Vilches and slags their ability yet he and his dad chose them personally out of a shortlist. The Book is bile.