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Posted: 04 Oct 2006, 16:46
by mattyp151
Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:If you dont hate America and Americans, why is a backhand at America and Americans involved with nearly every response out of you?
Anyone slags of my people or my country, or its fighters per se, then i come right back at them. Don't expect me to apologize for that as you will be highly disappointed.
You have serious issues with taking everything personally. I don't get the idea that people can dislike fighters from other countries. Sorry, but even England has shitty fighters.
Come on, even England has it's very own John Ruiz.
Wow!!
Posted: 04 Oct 2006, 20:23
by HeavyHitters
Posted: 05 Oct 2006, 07:49
by sockdolager
Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:If you dont hate America and Americans, why is a backhand at America and Americans involved with nearly every response out of you?
Anyone slags of my people or my country, or its fighters per se, then i come right back at them. Don't expect me to apologize for that as you will be highly disappointed.
Whatever Andy, if you really cant see that you are being
very anti-everything-American than I give up. I respect your opinion on Boxing related issues and even on Floyd

but you take this angry stance against America and Americans to a new level. I know you are trying to defend your country but you take shit way too seriously.
Posted: 05 Oct 2006, 18:37
by hurricanemitch14
yea lacy an djoppy got thier asses beat slowly....lacy was so far over his head it was sad.....i thought he was gonna win to now joppy man his face looked like pumpkin
Posted: 05 Oct 2006, 20:23
by cosand
In a single fight..recently..Rounds 9 and 10 of Mesi v Jirov comes to mind, Mesi fought a round and a half with a brain injury, got the bejesus beat out of him, went down 3 times, and kept coming back.
For sure not the "most" punishment, just a good recent example
Posted: 05 Oct 2006, 20:38
by AndreWardFan2006
Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:If you dont hate America and Americans, why is a backhand at America and Americans involved with nearly every response out of you?
Anyone slags of my people or my country, or its fighters per se, then i come right back at them. Don't expect me to apologize for that as you will be highly disappointed.
You have serious issues with taking everything personally. I don't get the idea that people can dislike fighters from other countries. Sorry, but even England has shitty fighters.
Come on, even England has it's very own John Ruiz.
I've come to notice while reading his hate posts on America...they have become nothing but shit, just a different pile every time.
Posted: 05 Oct 2006, 20:48
by zojo
How about Ali-Terrell?
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 07:03
by harrygreb
i'm with you andy, the crap we have to take from the yanks needs to be evened up. they have got about 400 billion people to our 60 million and yet we have got a far higher percentage of world champs

Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 07:04
by mattyp151
harrygreb wrote:i'm with you andy, the crap we have to take from the yanks needs to be evened up. they have got about 400 billion people to our 60 million and yet we have got a far higher percentage of world champs

boxing holds a different standard in England than Europe...that's like me saying we've had more Lacrosse World Championships than England.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 07:08
by sockdolager
harrygreb wrote:i'm with you andy, the crap we have to take from the yanks needs to be evened up. they have got about 400 billion people to our 60 million and yet we have got a far higher percentage of world champs

Im glad you fellows are such strong supporters of your country and it's fighters, but what Andy says is far from simply defending it.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 09:16
by Andy Mac
Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:If you dont hate America and Americans, why is a backhand at America and Americans involved with nearly every response out of you?
Anyone slags of my people or my country, or its fighters per se, then i come right back at them. Don't expect me to apologize for that as you will be highly disappointed.
You have serious issues with taking everything personally. I don't get the idea that people can dislike fighters from other countries. Sorry, but even England has shitty fighters.
Come on, even England has it's very own John Ruiz.
Of course we have shit fighters,,,lots of them, but you guys dont give credit to our good ones either. I love your paranoia, it is one of your country's better known traits. You really should learn to distinguish hate from ridicule, then you might not feel so bad.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 09:21
by mattyp151
Andy Mac wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:
Anyone slags of my people or my country, or its fighters per se, then i come right back at them. Don't expect me to apologize for that as you will be highly disappointed.
You have serious issues with taking everything personally. I don't get the idea that people can dislike fighters from other countries. Sorry, but even England has shitty fighters.
Come on, even England has it's very own John Ruiz.
Of course we have shit fighters,,,lots of them, but you guys dont give credit to our good ones either. I love your paranoia, it is one of your country's better known traits. You really should learn to distinguish hate from ridicule, then you might not feel so bad.
What paranoia is this? That Calzaghe could unify 168, a division where there are maybe 2 or 3 Americans in the top 20?
Or that Hatton could beat Mayweather? Hopefully the fight comes off. But besides Mayweather, how many Americans are there in the top 10 in 140 and 147? Not many. So, the two best fighters from the UK are on the verge of owning divisions which Americans haven't been tops in in quite some time, if you include 147, then Zab and Spinks were tops for a bit, but they can be terrible on any given night. So, who's paranoid?
It's not paranoia, it's just funny how much you guys back your best fighters through anything. Hatton got blistered that last part of the fight vs Collazo, yet some people think he can still "walk through" (one of the dumbest cliches in boxing) anyone from 140-147.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:15
by Andy Mac
Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:
You have serious issues with taking everything personally. I don't get the idea that people can dislike fighters from other countries. Sorry, but even England has shitty fighters.
Come on, even England has it's very own John Ruiz.
Of course we have shit fighters,,,lots of them, but you guys dont give credit to our good ones either. I love your paranoia, it is one of your country's better known traits. You really should learn to distinguish hate from ridicule, then you might not feel so bad.
What paranoia is this? That Calzaghe could unify 168, a division where there are maybe 2 or 3 Americans in the top 20?
Or that Hatton could beat Mayweather? Hopefully the fight comes off. But besides Mayweather, how many Americans are there in the top 10 in 140 and 147? Not many. So, the two best fighters from the UK are on the verge of owning divisions which Americans haven't been tops in in quite some time, if you include 147, then Zab and Spinks were tops for a bit, but they can be terrible on any given night. So, who's paranoid?
It's not paranoia, it's just funny how much you guys back your best fighters through anything. Hatton got blistered that last part of the fight vs Collazo, yet some people think he can still "walk through" (one of the dumbest cliches in boxing) anyone from 140-147.
So Hatton loses the last round of a fight, and that is getting blistered? There is your paranoia right there. It is also in the way you think that being ridiculed is being hated. Two totally different things. Calzaghe is a subject that people could discuss all night and never work out. Everyone knows what he is capable of, but getting him to do it is harder than Japaneze arithmatic.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:17
by dogaga
In Jin Chi can take a lot of punches. He looks the same after suffering a knockdown. Barrera has a platina chin as well.
Felix Cora Jr. vs Vadim Tokarev. There has been a very big mistake from the ref. He should have stopped the fight much more earlier (after kd1). Cora came back, than he got some shots (they were not so serious than before) and the fight was over.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:19
by mattyp151
Andy Mac wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:
Of course we have shit fighters,,,lots of them, but you guys dont give credit to our good ones either. I love your paranoia, it is one of your country's better known traits. You really should learn to distinguish hate from ridicule, then you might not feel so bad.
What paranoia is this? That Calzaghe could unify 168, a division where there are maybe 2 or 3 Americans in the top 20?
Or that Hatton could beat Mayweather? Hopefully the fight comes off. But besides Mayweather, how many Americans are there in the top 10 in 140 and 147? Not many. So, the two best fighters from the UK are on the verge of owning divisions which Americans haven't been tops in in quite some time, if you include 147, then Zab and Spinks were tops for a bit, but they can be terrible on any given night. So, who's paranoid?
It's not paranoia, it's just funny how much you guys back your best fighters through anything. Hatton got blistered that last part of the fight vs Collazo, yet some people think he can still "walk through" (one of the dumbest cliches in boxing) anyone from 140-147.
So Hatton loses the last round of a fight, and that is getting blistered? There is your paranoia right there. It is also in the way you think that being ridiculed is being hated. Two totally different things. Calzaghe is a subject that people could discuss all night and never work out. Everyone knows what he is capable of, but getting him to do it is harder than Japaneze arithmatic.
He lost 5 of the last 6 my man, and almost got knocked out in the 12th. So, yes, losing 83% of the sample set I mentioned, including being out on your feet and only staying up because of holding is getting blistered. Hatton clearly lost the back half of the fight.
I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:24
by sockdolager
I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.[/quote]
he does it on purpose now to get a rise out of us. land of milk and muppets, what is this a childrens book title?
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:41
by Andy Mac
Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:
What paranoia is this? That Calzaghe could unify 168, a division where there are maybe 2 or 3 Americans in the top 20?
Or that Hatton could beat Mayweather? Hopefully the fight comes off. But besides Mayweather, how many Americans are there in the top 10 in 140 and 147? Not many. So, the two best fighters from the UK are on the verge of owning divisions which Americans haven't been tops in in quite some time, if you include 147, then Zab and Spinks were tops for a bit, but they can be terrible on any given night. So, who's paranoid?
It's not paranoia, it's just funny how much you guys back your best fighters through anything. Hatton got blistered that last part of the fight vs Collazo, yet some people think he can still "walk through" (one of the dumbest cliches in boxing) anyone from 140-147.
So Hatton loses the last round of a fight, and that is getting blistered? There is your paranoia right there. It is also in the way you think that being ridiculed is being hated. Two totally different things. Calzaghe is a subject that people could discuss all night and never work out. Everyone knows what he is capable of, but getting him to do it is harder than Japaneze arithmatic.
He lost 5 of the last 6 my man, and almost got knocked out in the 12th. So, yes, losing 83% of the sample set I mentioned, including being out on your feet and only staying up because of holding is getting blistered. Hatton clearly lost the back half of the fight.
I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
Got the official scorecards have we? Or is this merely another of your worthless opinions disguised as insightful knowledge?
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:43
by mattyp151
Andy Mac wrote:Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:
So Hatton loses the last round of a fight, and that is getting blistered? There is your paranoia right there. It is also in the way you think that being ridiculed is being hated. Two totally different things. Calzaghe is a subject that people could discuss all night and never work out. Everyone knows what he is capable of, but getting him to do it is harder than Japaneze arithmatic.
He lost 5 of the last 6 my man, and almost got knocked out in the 12th. So, yes, losing 83% of the sample set I mentioned, including being out on your feet and only staying up because of holding is getting blistered. Hatton clearly lost the back half of the fight.
I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
Got the official scorecards have we? Or is this merely another of your worthless opinions disguised as insightful knowledge?
Seeing as the cards were 114-113 and 115-112 x 2, I'd say I'm not far off base.I wouldn't say having it 6-6 with the KD the difference was too outlandish of a score seeing as one judge had it the same.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:44
by Andy Mac
sockdollanger wrote:I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
he does it on purpose now to get a rise out of us.
land of milk and muppets, what is this a childrens book title?[/quote]
I do it because it is so easy. That is what you are there for, to get the piss taken out of you.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:46
by mattyp151
Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
he does it on purpose now to get a rise out of us.
land of milk and muppets, what is this a childrens book title?
I do it because it is so easy. That is what you are there for, to get the piss taken out of you.[/quote]
Haha, sorry but a sad and pathetic insult such as "the land of milk and muppets" doesn't really hurt any feelings bud...it's better than being "the land of bad teeth and warm beer"
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:53
by sockdolager
Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
he does it on purpose now to get a rise out of us.
land of milk and muppets, what is this a childrens book title?
I do it because it is so easy. That is what you are there for, to get the piss taken out of you.[/quote]
Which shows how little you really are. How old are you like 16? I have a feeling you are much older than that but you wouldn't know it.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 10:53
by sockdolager
what is going on with these Quotes?!
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 11:09
by Andy Mac
harrygreb wrote:i'm with you andy, the crap we have to take from the yanks needs to be evened up. they have got about 400 billion people to our 60 million and yet we have got a far higher percentage of world champs

Cheers H, you know how it is, since they banned fox hunting you got to find something to do, I just like baiting them.

Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 11:11
by Andy Mac
sockdollanger wrote:Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
he does it on purpose now to get a rise out of us.
land of milk and muppets, what is this a childrens book title?
I do it because it is so easy. That is what you are there for, to get the piss taken out of you.
Which shows how little you really are. How old are you like 16? I have a feeling you are much older than that but you wouldn't know it.[/quote]
Old as my tongue and about 9 months older than my bad teeth. LMAO.
Posted: 06 Oct 2006, 11:15
by Andy Mac
Mattyp151 wrote:Andy Mac wrote:sockdollanger wrote:I don't care about ridicule, it's sad that every topic you make has some anti-American sentiment to it, that's it's become painfully obvious.
he does it on purpose now to get a rise out of us.
land of milk and muppets, what is this a childrens book title?
I do it because it is so easy. That is what you are there for, to get the piss taken out of you.
Haha, sorry but a sad and pathetic insult such as "the land of milk and muppets" doesn't really hurt any feelings bud...it's better than being "the land of bad teeth and warm beer"[/quote]
Hahaha, you must really have great teeth over there with all the sugar you eat, to get that wonderful reputation of world leaders in OBESITY.
Please dont ever mention beer, you just dont have any, it really is weaker than coffee over there.