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Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 09:10
by wouter
Decagon wrote:Most of the contracts the big music companies signed were highway robbery, and some of them still are. It was a disgusting period in the history of music, and I'm not going to pretend it didn't happen just because most the people who perpetrated those attrocities were Jewish.
I still don't see the relevancy of mentioning their religion.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 12:38
by Halfamill
That Trinidad is one of the worst boxers ever because he lost to two of today's greatest boxers.
That Vargas would of beat Trinidad if it wasn't for the low blows.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 14:01
by Eric the Viking
Halfamill wrote:That Trinidad is one of the worst boxers ever because he lost to two of today's greatest boxers.
I don't think anybody in their right mind claims that - but it is relevant to question whether he belongs near the top of the ATG lists at 147/154 (as many people have him), and to what extent he was a one-dimensional fighter, as both the DLH and Hopkins fights showed to some extent. DLH in fact laid out the perfect blueprint for how to beat Tito - he just decided to run like a chicken for thre last 6 rounds of their fight. Hopkins pretty much followed the same blueprint with a vengeance.
OTOH, it's not like DLH did all that great vs. B-Hop either, so maybe in retrospect we shouldn't hold it against Tito that he got completely dominated by the same, undisputedly ATG middleweight.
Posted: 01 Feb 2007, 21:01
by cosand
Decagon
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 10:49 pm Post subject:
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wouter wrote:
Decagon wrote:
Most of the contracts the big music companies signed were highway robbery, and some of them still are. It was a disgusting period in the history of music, and I'm not going to pretend it didn't happen just because most the people who perpetrated those attrocities were Jewish.
I still don't see the relevancy of mentioning their religion.
I meant it as an ethnicity, not a religion. Enough of this PC bullshit. If I said that the English gave the Native Americans smallpox blankets, would you complain that I mentioned that they were English?
Good idea Dracagon, enough PC BS
Why not tell us your religion/ethniity/race/nationality, and we can all test your theory and see how many negaitive stereotypes we can equate to your background, and see what gene pool produced..ummmm....the obvious
Ever notice when someone gets caught in a slip of racism and bigotry, they always claim anyone who calls them on it is just "Too PC" ?
Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 02:17
by Victor*KC
Eric the Viking wrote:Halfamill wrote:That Trinidad is one of the worst boxers ever because he lost to two of today's greatest boxers.
I don't think anybody in their right mind claims that - but it is relevant to question whether he belongs near the top of the ATG lists at 147/154 (as many people have him), and to what extent he was a one-dimensional fighter, as both the DLH and Hopkins fights showed to some extent. DLH in fact laid out the perfect blueprint for how to beat Tito - he just decided to run like a chicken for thre last 6 rounds of their fight. Hopkins pretty much followed the same blueprint with a vengeance.
OTOH, it's not like DLH did all that great vs. B-Hop either, so maybe in retrospect we shouldn't hold it against Tito that he got completely dominated by the same, undisputedly ATG middleweight.
I wouldn't go as that far and say DLH ran the last 6 when he only took off 3-4 round's in term's of accomplishments he should be rated pretty high Head2 Head no..
Posted: 02 Feb 2007, 17:59
by Victor*KC
Decagon wrote:Take the ninth round of De la Hoya-Trinidad, for instance. Oscar already had his track shoes on, but he clearly took the round. Trinidad didn't do SHIT!
It's pretty funny that one of the judges gave trinidad 3 of the first 4 rounds and gave DLH the last round..
