dempseyfire wrote:I think Frazier was on the low end of 5'11. Men shrink as they get older from bad posture and deteriorating bone mass. I'm sure he probably shrunk to 5'10 or maybe even a tinge shorter in his old age.
From face-offs I've seen Haye's about 6'2 but a naturally skinny 6'2.
Larry Holmes must have shrunk prematurely. He was 6'4 in his 20s and 30s and 6'3 in his 40s.
Then there is Foreman. He magically went from 6'3 when he was in his 20s to 6'4 when he was in his 40s.
Brutu wrote: ↑28 Jul 2013, 12:00
According to Joe Frazier's 1996 autobiography SMOKIN' JOE(with Phil Berger).
He was very specific about his height at least at age 21.
page 36,
"Five feet eleven and one-half inches tall"
he also listed his reach at "seventy-one inches"
which is shorter
then the reach boxrec lists it as.
Boxrec lists Joe Frazier's reach at "73 inches/185 cm"
I know from the book Bad Intentions it was stated there was an orchestrated effort to make Mike Tyson taller than he was, that he was more 5'8.5" than 5'11" in height.
In the beginning his management team would make arguments that because he was so short he can generate more power punching upwards, etc--- but after a while the narrative changed to say that he wasn't as short as people thought he was.
I know men shrink over time but if BoxRec lists Roy Jones Jr as 5'11" in height then clearly Tyson is in reality 5'8"-5'9" in height, so the book was accurate at least in that particular subject.
I remember quite a long time ago there was a thread about Harry Wills and how tall he actually was because he was listed as short as 6'0" but as much as 6'5", so there was a pretty lengthy search over time by us forum posters to determine his true height.
If my memory recollects we all basically determined he had to be somewhere between 6'3"-6'4", which would have made him rather large for the time period. But yes height and weight statistics on the website are not accurate.
HomicideHenry wrote: ↑31 Oct 2021, 11:42
I know from the book Bad Intentions it was stated there was an orchestrated effort to make Mike Tyson taller than he was, that he was more 5'8.5" than 5'11" in height.
In the beginning his management team would make arguments that because he was so short he can generate more power punching upwards, etc--- but after a while the narrative changed to say that he wasn't as short as people thought he was.
You probably remember the first VHS videos of Tyson that came out, Mike Tysons Greatest Hits I think they were called. In that it shows him being measured and being 5’11.5” however he was standing about two foot away from the height chart so they were clearly trying to make him seem taller than he was. I think Tyson himself has since said he is 5'10" and that looks about right.
EDIT found it and just realised someone posted it earlier
