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Posted: 30 May 2007, 02:00
by Roars Like Me
It does seem that Steve is having a few 'moments' recently.
However I do remember checking this site(can't rememeber how long ago, mind you, not that long ago) and Collins was on here as the No 1 Super middle of All time?
Even Collins wouldn't go that far regarding himself
Posted: 30 May 2007, 03:24
by STP
Roars Like Me wrote:
Even Collins wouldn't go that far regarding himself
He would. He thinks he'd have beat Roy Jones, and has even instigated he'd have beat Marvin Hagler
Posted: 30 May 2007, 06:18
by Roars Like Me
STP wrote:Roars Like Me wrote:
Even Collins wouldn't go that far regarding himself
He would. He thinks he'd have beat Roy Jones, and has even instigated he'd have beat Marvin Hagler
I did have a moment when I thought, 'hold on' he probably would, haha.
Posted: 30 May 2007, 09:08
by overhand_right
Too many holes in this plot. So Collins could get up for Craig Cummings & Frederic Seillier, but not a young live contender like Calzaghe?
We all know Collins retired rather than fight JC, BUT, having said that, JCs legacy is all smoke & mirrors & bollocks, it wouldn't surprise me if a beast like Collins could have whopped him.
I dont think JC has much to hold Collins off. A messy 12 rds either way.
Steve Collins career= anti climax.
Posted: 30 May 2007, 11:35
by dr_devious
Joe Calzaghe career = anti-climax
What do you get when you add 2 anti-climaxes together?
Posted: 01 Jun 2007, 05:56
by Manos de Oro
dr_devious wrote:Joe Calzaghe career = anti-climax
What do you get when you add 2 anti-climaxes together?
Some sort of quasi-reality celebrity boxing guff 7 years from now on channel 5?
Posted: 01 Jun 2007, 13:32
by nickd
Calzaghe would have outboxed him, but lets not forget he was out on his feet in the 12th round against a weight drained Eubank its quite possible Collins could have got to him late. Let's not forget he'd never been beyond 8 before that.
Posted: 03 Jun 2007, 11:15
by monkeybusiness
Fair play to Collins for having the balls to say that. I do agree about him still not having faught anyone though not sure Collins would have been the man to beat him
Posted: 03 Jun 2007, 16:12
by ALI
monkeybusiness wrote:Fair play to Collins for having the balls to say that.
It takes balls to tell the truth and Collins has clearly ventured far from the path.... you could say he's half way down the yellow brick road wearing the tin man's costume!
I always liked Collins as a fighter, he was as hard as they come. But the guy was one dimensional and Calzaghe would have out boxed him at any part of his career.
Posted: 04 Jun 2007, 07:00
by boxingchat
Collins was offered £150k to fight Calzaghe? Don't make me laugh?He was contracted to get the same as he would have got for all other defences, he was on big money by then. He was due to divorce at the time so perhaps he is being less than truthful about his earnings but £150k? get real, it's well documented that Eubank got a massive payout for the Calzaghe fight so money was not an issue was it?
Steve was a great fighter and a decent blocke so these comments do nothing for his ongoing legacy IMO.
Posted: 04 Jun 2007, 07:47
by jamesmcdonnell
It appears that Steve is struggling somewhat with life after boxing, and possibly is becoming a little green-eyed about Calzaghe's standing post Lacy having eclipsed his own achievements.
Steve was I think a little underrated partly because of his late wins over Eubank and Benn. Eubank wasn't quite in his prime, though still very dangerous, and Benn was clearly badly shopworn by the time Steve got to him, but I think Collins on his night was enough of a hdndful to give anyone a rough night's work including Calzaghe.
These comments aren't doing him any favours though, that's for sure.
Posted: 04 Jun 2007, 11:06
by STP
boxingchat wrote:Collins was offered £150k to fight Calzaghe? Don't make me laugh?He was contracted to get the same as he would have got for all other defences, he was on big money by then. He was due to divorce at the time so perhaps he is being less than truthful about his earnings but £150k? get real, it's well documented that Eubank got a massive payout for the Calzaghe fight so money was not an issue was it?
Steve was a great fighter and a decent blocke so these comments do nothing for his ongoing legacy IMO.
Yeah 150k sounds abit off considering he got a million each for the Eubank II, Benn I and Benn II fights, even though Joe was nobody and Warren had Naz to pay.
Eubank got around 350-400k for the Calzaghe fight, just like he got for the Collins II, Thompson I and Thompson II fights.
Posted: 04 Jun 2007, 11:09
by STP
Mind you Calzaghe only got around 200k for the Reid and Woodhall fights