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Posted: 04 Feb 2008, 22:22
by classboxer
E wrote:
You don't have much of a leg to stand on. I'm against all organised religion but Islam is the most perverted and morally deviant.
mr E
would you say the above about the talmud ? the Jewish people ?
I get the feeling you have no clue what you are talking about mr "E"
White culture and white women,look at your society for crying out loud,chavs,slappers,(white)women with different kids of different fathers,the white family unit is falling apart, the media calls them white trash.( were is your self respect ?)
Marilyn Manson anti religious nut case (Antichrist) is worshipped by white kids in 2008,yeah white people are so smart aint they mr "E"
Look at how far your society has fallen and you have the nerve to get all moral about a kid watching a boxing match ?
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 03:21
by banjo
ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 04:15
by charlieb
classboxer wrote:E wrote:
You don't have much of a leg to stand on. I'm against all organised religion but Islam is the most perverted and morally deviant.
mr E
would you say the above about the talmud ? the Jewish people ?
I get the feeling you have no clue what you are talking about mr "E"
White culture and white women,look at your society for crying out loud,chavs,slappers,(white)women with different kids of different fathers,the white family unit is falling apart, the media calls them white trash.( were is your self respect ?)
Marilyn Manson anti religious nut case (Antichrist) is worshipped by white kids in 2008,yeah white people are so smart aint they mr "E"
Look at how far your society has fallen and you have the nerve to get all moral about a kid watching a boxing match ?
Thank your lucky stars you dont live in such an immoral western society then ... or do you?
I actually dont give a hoot about the kid being at the show, I'm sure every male sprog in clan Khan will be indoctrinated in the sport before the age of 5 anyway, so it doesn't make a blind bit of difference.
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 05:23
by observer1
ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
are you talking about Islam?
Its precisely BS like that which come pour out of Idiots that cause friction..
Mate, are you actually Retarded?
Ok, im not Expert on Islam, but i know my stuff about Religions and what not, because i tend to get my information from Proper Sources, not from "Anti-Evil" Blogs.
Rapists and Murderers treated like Heroes?
WTF, Are you actually retarded??
From my knowledge, one who kills another Being, its as if he has killed the whole of Humanity (Correct me if im wrong). Its one of the worst things in the Religion.
Rapists get treated like Heroes? Are you for real? Rapists are adulterers. End OF.
Forcing Young Girls to Marry is a Cultural Thing, Not a Religious Thing.
You can ask any Sane Muslim, A girl does not have to marry if she does not Want to. All the parents can do is "Recommend", but that is the furthest they go.
SO mate, next time you start talking shit.. Don't.
As for your Last Sentence.. Thats Fresh.. You're saying to Charlie not to Paint all the "White Race" with the Same Brush... You seem to be doing just that with Religion. (of Islam Anyway).
Seriously, sorry for going Way Off-Topic, but there are just some Idiots here who are just to dumb for Societies Sake, and appear to be on the Wrong Forums.
again i apologize, i cannot believe im talking about this on a Boxing Forum
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 05:58
by Autobarn
i can't see any particular USE in taking a small kid to a fight. I doubt the kid was watching the fight or could even see what was happening properly.
i think the whole reason was to go out and be seen, a status thing with the khan family.
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 06:17
by observer1
Autobarn wrote:i can't see any particular USE in taking a small kid to a fight. I doubt the kid was watching the fight or could even see what was happening properly.
i think the whole reason was to go out and be seen, a status thing with the khan family.
Possibly, but like i said earlier, it really is none of our business is it..
We're here to talk about Boxing and Khans Prospects, not who watches the fight
:P
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 11:29
by classboxer
banjo wrote:ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
Fair enough Banjo,all white women arent slappers,i know that,iwas being sarcastic
We can all be finger pointers and throw jibes,i know
Islam has a problem with honour killings but its only a small minority of fanatics,anyway, it seems the media in the west are degrading white people with terms like Chav,white trash being promoted by mainstream media,its wrong if you ask me
I am not a muslim myself but i know there are different sects of Islam,sunnis,shia ect who believe in different things,Islam has made advances in science and Islamic countrys have more control of their women and the muslim family unit is STRONG
for example, a muslim country would never let a woman walk out on her husband and allow men to be raped in the courts,which is going on in the anti male western court system 2008
Soon as the courts in the west started favouring women in the early 70s changing law that was based on Christian teachings,the white family unit has fallen apart,maybe there is some common sense in the Bible/Koran after all
I mean, look at Marilyn Manson,an anti religious freak who gave a blow job to a male fan who ran on to stage,while white youths in the crowd whoop with delight,real smart civilised behaviour NOT or loons like Ozzy Ozbourne biting the head of a bat,Rap music promoting rape and slapping hoes,losers like Eminem,50% hero worshipped,,gay sex lessons to 5 year olds,something is wrong and in some ways(not all) Islam puts the west to shame
a lot of people are in denial over this,the generation of the 1950s west/USA/UK had a lot more class
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 14:20
by banjo
observer1 wrote:ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
are you talking about Islam?
Its precisely BS like that which come pour out of Idiots that cause friction..
Mate, are you actually Retarded?
Ok, im not Expert on Islam, but i know my stuff about Religions and what not, because i tend to get my information from Proper Sources, not from "Anti-Evil" Blogs.
Get your information from PROPER SOURCES you say?
so being an ex-para who has seen the carnage and misery these people create i obviously don't know what i'm on about do i?
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 15:03
by observer1
THese People?
WTF is that supposed to mean??
So is it safe to say that to Americans? These People who INVADED another Country?
Raped Little Kids and Women in Prisons, Abused Defenseless People?
These People who Kill Unarmed men and plant Guns on them?
These people responsible for Destroy the whole of Iraq?
NO Pal, you Don't know what you're on about..
there are Over 1.2 Billion Muslims, You Blame them all ?
Besides, In Iraq, if there is a Resistance because of the Shit the USA Has done there, dont be surprised. Dont be surprised if somebody fights back if you invade a Country Illegally.
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 15:16
by banjo
observer1 wrote:THese People?
WTF is that supposed to mean??
So is it safe to say that to Americans? These People who INVADED another Country?
Raped Little Kids and Women in Prisons, Abused Defenseless People?
These People who Kill Unarmed men and plant Guns on them?
These people responsible for Destroy the whole of Iraq?
NO Pal, you Don't know what you're on about..
there are Over 1.2 Billion Muslims, You Blame them all ?
Besides, In Iraq, if there is a Resistance because of the Shit the USA Has done there, dont be surprised. Dont be surprised if somebody fights back if you invade a Country Illegally.
I'm british not a yank
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 15:30
by Achybreaky
observer1 wrote:Autobarn wrote:i can't see any particular USE in taking a small kid to a fight. I doubt the kid was watching the fight or could even see what was happening properly.
i think the whole reason was to go out and be seen, a status thing with the khan family.
Possibly, but like i said earlier, it really is none of our business is it..
We're here to talk about Boxing and Khans Prospects, not who watches the fight
:P
The point i was making by starting this thread (it does say off topic) was that i would hazard a guess that most on here have been at a live fight and we all know the drinking and atmosphere that goes with it... therefore i reckon the kiddy should have been tucked up in bed and there is no real excuse for her to be there. Granted there was loads of family around so its not like she was gonna come to any harm.
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 17:34
by E
observer1 wrote:ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
are you talking about Islam?
Its precisely BS like that which come pour out of Idiots that cause friction..
Mate, are you actually Retarded?
Ok, im not Expert on Islam, but i know my stuff about Religions and what not, because i tend to get my information from Proper Sources, not from "Anti-Evil" Blogs.
Rapists and Murderers treated like Heroes?
WTF, Are you actually retarded??
From my knowledge, one who kills another Being, its as if he has killed the whole of Humanity (Correct me if im wrong). Its one of the worst things in the Religion.
Rapists get treated like Heroes? Are you for real? Rapists are adulterers. End OF.
Forcing Young Girls to Marry is a Cultural Thing, Not a Religious Thing.
You can ask any Sane Muslim, A girl does not have to marry if she does not Want to. All the parents can do is "Recommend", but that is the furthest they go.
SO mate, next time you start talking shit.. Don't.
As for your Last Sentence.. Thats Fresh.. You're saying to Charlie not to Paint all the "White Race" with the Same Brush... You seem to be doing just that with Religion. (of Islam Anyway).
Seriously, sorry for going Way Off-Topic, but there are just some Idiots here who are just to dumb for Societies Sake, and appear to be on the Wrong Forums.
again i apologize, i cannot believe im talking about this on a Boxing Forum
The founder of Islam was a child abuser, murderer of captured prisoners, enslaver and concluded that sex with cpatured non-muslim women (IE rape) was fine. Case closed.
These doctrines are all present in Islamic texts. inlcuding the Koran - the so-called 'word of god'.
Posted: 05 Feb 2008, 17:52
by coneye
regarding the kid thing first of all most of you should get a facking life mind your own buisness. His familly all want to see him and probably had no baby sitter, My kids used to come to boxing shows to see me fight, and my grandkids have been to see there dads fight. When they were too young to know what was going on it did'nt matter when they were old enough they loved it.
Alls i can say is my 3 lads are all decent hard working guys with morgages and families all watched there dad box and all had a go themselves so get a life and mind your own buisness sound like a bunch of snivelling women gossiping in the wash house for fack sake.
Regarding Islam well they don't condone rape, beating women, torture, and all the other crap , because its not nice and religions are supposed to be nice.
But with saying that if you are Islamic then its ok cos your Islamic
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 13:00
by Achybreaky
coneye wrote:regarding the kid thing first of all most of you should get a facking life mind your own buisness. His familly all want to see him and probably had no baby sitter, My kids used to come to boxing shows to see me fight, and my grandkids have been to see there dads fight. When they were too young to know what was going on it did'nt matter when they were old enough they loved it.
Alls i can say is my 3 lads are all decent hard working guys with morgages and families all watched there dad box and all had a go themselves so get a life and mind your own buisness sound like a bunch of snivelling women gossiping in the wash house for fack sake.
Regarding Islam well they don't condone rape, beating women, torture, and all the other crap , because its not nice and religions are supposed to be nice.
But with saying that if you are Islamic then its ok cos your Islamic
Im entitled to my opinion wether you like it or not so you can take your shit elsewhere, and im quite happy to mind my own business but when the kid is paraded about on tv then it can hardly be classed as gossip!
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 13:57
by E
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 17:33
by coneye
Achybreaky wrote:coneye wrote:regarding the kid thing first of all
Im entitled to my opinion wether you like it or not so you can take your shit elsewhere, and im quite happy to mind my own business but when the kid is paraded about on tv then it can hardly be classed as gossip!
Grow up you sanctimomious moron , they took a kid to a boxing match to watch his uncle or cousin whoever, who facking cares kid was never in danger kid was with the familly least the kid was there not left home with a 10 year old baby sitter who don't even know how to use a phone or even worse left on its own. but when the kid is paraded on tv you say this has if they were rubbing your nose in it personally , get a life you sound like facking Hilda Ogden
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 17:36
by coneye
Read the last line think you may detect an element of sarcasm
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 18:30
by E
coneye wrote:
Read the last line think you may detect an element of sarcasm
Apologies it was well camouflaged.
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 19:20
by SticknMove
Grilling Machine wrote:SticknMove wrote:Given some of the sanctimony on this thread about a child being subjected to whatever, why are the said adults so drawn to this sport when it appears to be against their innate sensibility? I dont understand. I need some educating.
I agree with whicker: it's an intimidating atmosphere for youngsters. That's my problem with it, rather than the actual fights. To address your point about attraction to a violent sport: don't we all want our children to better us?
In this country
children box from the age of 10. Many start training a few years earlier. That ‘s without giving lesser developed countries a mention. Without that depth and breadth many fighters in particular, and the game in general, wouldn’t realise the potential that many fans enjoy watching. Do you not think that it is intimidating for a child to box another child whilst adults are shouting them on? So I will ask again what is the allure of the game if it’s against your innate sensibilities.
For the record I watched older relatives box from the age of 5 and boxed from the age of 10 up until I was 23. I also got a degree from an old poly/new uni whilst still boxing. I’d like to think I’m a reasonably well adjusted individual and my boxing experiences outside/inside the ring didn’t do me any harm as a kid (admittedly I’m not all things to all people – but I wouldn’t want to be).
Whatever the reason for the child being at the uncle’s sporting event I doubt he/she will remember much about it and people shouldn’t be so fooking judgemental.
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 22:57
by BAMBI
E wrote:observer1 wrote:ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
are you talking about Islam?
Its precisely BS like that which come pour out of Idiots that cause friction..
Mate, are you actually Retarded?
Ok, im not Expert on Islam, but i know my stuff about Religions and what not, because i tend to get my information from Proper Sources, not from "Anti-Evil" Blogs.
Rapists and Murderers treated like Heroes?
WTF, Are you actually retarded??
From my knowledge, one who kills another Being, its as if he has killed the whole of Humanity (Correct me if im wrong). Its one of the worst things in the Religion.
Rapists get treated like Heroes? Are you for real? Rapists are adulterers. End OF.
Forcing Young Girls to Marry is a Cultural Thing, Not a Religious Thing.
You can ask any Sane Muslim, A girl does not have to marry if she does not Want to. All the parents can do is "Recommend", but that is the furthest they go.
SO mate, next time you start talking shit.. Don't.
As for your Last Sentence.. Thats Fresh.. You're saying to Charlie not to Paint all the "White Race" with the Same Brush... You seem to be doing just that with Religion. (of Islam Anyway).
Seriously, sorry for going Way Off-Topic, but there are just some Idiots here who are just to dumb for Societies Sake, and appear to be on the Wrong Forums.
again i apologize, i cannot believe im talking about this on a Boxing Forum
The founder of Islam was a child abuser, murderer of captured prisoners, enslaver and concluded that sex with cpatured non-muslim women (IE rape) was fine. Case closed.
These doctrines are all present in Islamic texts. inlcuding the Koran - the so-called 'word of god'.
anyone on here can throw down insults and act ignorant, especially if one doe not know shyte about the subject matter, IE Islam!
Therefore if i was you, ill shut up , as you are be truly offensive!
Posted: 06 Feb 2008, 23:01
by BAMBI
E wrote:observer1 wrote:ok classboxer tell me what is so great about a religion that treats rapists and murderers as heroes, forcing young girls into marriage which is also rape by the way.
i kind of agree with you about the standard of western life but you are tarring all of us with the same brush, my girlfriend isn't a chav or a slapper.
are you talking about Islam?
Its precisely BS like that which come pour out of Idiots that cause friction..
Mate, are you actually Retarded?
Ok, im not Expert on Islam, but i know my stuff about Religions and what not, because i tend to get my information from Proper Sources, not from "Anti-Evil" Blogs.
Rapists and Murderers treated like Heroes?
WTF, Are you actually retarded??
From my knowledge, one who kills another Being, its as if he has killed the whole of Humanity (Correct me if im wrong). Its one of the worst things in the Religion.
Rapists get treated like Heroes? Are you for real? Rapists are adulterers. End OF.
Forcing Young Girls to Marry is a Cultural Thing, Not a Religious Thing.
You can ask any Sane Muslim, A girl does not have to marry if she does not Want to. All the parents can do is "Recommend", but that is the furthest they go.
SO mate, next time you start talking shit.. Don't.
As for your Last Sentence.. Thats Fresh.. You're saying to Charlie not to Paint all the "White Race" with the Same Brush... You seem to be doing just that with Religion. (of Islam Anyway).
Seriously, sorry for going Way Off-Topic, but there are just some Idiots here who are just to dumb for Societies Sake, and appear to be on the Wrong Forums.
again i apologize, i cannot believe im talking about this on a Boxing Forum
The founder of Islam was a child abuser, murderer of captured prisoners, enslaver and concluded that sex with cpatured non-muslim women (IE rape) was fine. Case closed.
These doctrines are all present in Islamic texts. inlcuding the Koran - the so-called 'word of god'.
Ok azz hole, the god of christianity, juadasm and other religons allows humans to sexual abuse kids, murder, rob/steal and other crazy elements of human failure...how do u feel about their God for creating us and allowing this to occur over and over again??
Posted: 07 Feb 2008, 17:27
by Achybreaky
coneye wrote:Achybreaky wrote:coneye wrote:regarding the kid thing first of all
Im entitled to my opinion wether you like it or not so you can take your shit elsewhere, and im quite happy to mind my own business but when the kid is paraded about on tv then it can hardly be classed as gossip!
Grow up you sanctimomious moron , they took a kid to a boxing match to watch his uncle or cousin whoever, who facking cares kid was never in danger kid was with the familly least the kid was there not left home with a 10 year old baby sitter who don't even know how to use a phone or even worse left on its own. but when the kid is paraded on tv you say this has if they were rubbing your nose in it personally , get a life you sound like facking Hilda Ogden
why do you feel the need to throw insults about instead of just putting your point across? One of the reasons i dont post here as much is exactly this type of reply...be constructive or dont bother answering.
Posted: 07 Feb 2008, 18:13
by E
BAMBI wrote:E wrote:observer1 wrote:
are you talking about Islam?
Its precisely BS like that which come pour out of Idiots that cause friction..
Mate, are you actually Retarded?
Ok, im not Expert on Islam, but i know my stuff about Religions and what not, because i tend to get my information from Proper Sources, not from "Anti-Evil" Blogs.
Rapists and Murderers treated like Heroes?
WTF, Are you actually retarded??
From my knowledge, one who kills another Being, its as if he has killed the whole of Humanity (Correct me if im wrong). Its one of the worst things in the Religion.
Rapists get treated like Heroes? Are you for real? Rapists are adulterers. End OF.
Forcing Young Girls to Marry is a Cultural Thing, Not a Religious Thing.
You can ask any Sane Muslim, A girl does not have to marry if she does not Want to. All the parents can do is "Recommend", but that is the furthest they go.
SO mate, next time you start talking shit.. Don't.
As for your Last Sentence.. Thats Fresh.. You're saying to Charlie not to Paint all the "White Race" with the Same Brush... You seem to be doing just that with Religion. (of Islam Anyway).
Seriously, sorry for going Way Off-Topic, but there are just some Idiots here who are just to dumb for Societies Sake, and appear to be on the Wrong Forums.
again i apologize, i cannot believe im talking about this on a Boxing Forum
The founder of Islam was a child abuser, murderer of captured prisoners, enslaver and concluded that sex with cpatured non-muslim women (IE rape) was fine. Case closed.
These doctrines are all present in Islamic texts. inlcuding the Koran - the so-called 'word of god'.
anyone on here can throw down insults and act ignorant, especially if one doe not know shyte about the subject matter, IE Islam!
Therefore if i was you, ill shut up , as you are be truly offensive!
Fine - disprove anything I have said.
Posted: 07 Feb 2008, 19:53
by telboy66
classboxer wrote:Loynesy wrote:I don't need to answer your post.
You sink deeper into a grammtical mess and intellectual void each time you type.
Yeah ok Loynesy
The Truth is, you have no point to make,so you you blow off as an intellectual snob
I say a 2 year old at the Khan fight is not as bad as women hitting each other in the boxing ring,thats class IMO
Yeah but having their clitoris cut out is ok is it
Posted: 07 Feb 2008, 20:25
by charlieb
telboy66 wrote:classboxer wrote:Loynesy wrote:I don't need to answer your post.
You sink deeper into a grammtical mess and intellectual void each time you type.
Yeah ok Loynesy
The Truth is, you have no point to make,so you you blow off as an intellectual snob
I say a 2 year old at the Khan fight is not as bad as women hitting each other in the boxing ring,thats class IMO
Yeah but having their clitoris cut out is ok is it
LOL you said clitoris in a serious context.