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If someone can tell me how Lazcano brings more to the table than Junior then I'll STFU on Hattons avoidance of Witter

oliverfennell wrote:

boxingchat wrote:That'll fill a stadium won't it?

Sadly, yes.

Want to bet on it?

That much papering it should be sponsored by FADS.

Hatton has never sold anywhere near a football stadium of normal proportions, let alone Man City or Wembley. Maybe fill the Reebok or Oldham but that's it.

Never sold out the MEN completely, not once.

boxingchat wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

boxingchat wrote:That'll fill a stadium won't it?

Sadly, yes.

Want to bet on it?

That much papering it should be sponsored by FADS.

Hatton has never sold anywhere near a football stadium of normal proportions, let alone Man City or Wembley. Maybe fill the Reebok or Oldham but that's it.

Never sold out the MEN completely, not once.

Was the Zoo fight night not a sell out then? I always thought it was!

Big Pussy wrote:

boxingchat wrote:

oliverfennell wrote: Sadly, yes.

Want to bet on it?

That much papering it should be sponsored by FADS.

Hatton has never sold anywhere near a football stadium of normal proportions, let alone Man City or Wembley. Maybe fill the Reebok or Oldham but that's it.

Never sold out the MEN completely, not once.

Was the Zoo fight night not a sell out then? I always thought it was!

The ticket prices were extortionate if you wanted to be in the same stratosphere as the ring, so probably not. My ticket 'would' have cost over £300 and it was a good 20 rows behind the ringside seats

boxingchat wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

boxingchat wrote:That'll fill a stadium won't it?

Sadly, yes.

Want to bet on it?

That much papering it should be sponsored by FADS.

Hatton has never sold anywhere near a football stadium of normal proportions, let alone Man City or Wembley. Maybe fill the Reebok or Oldham but that's it.

Never sold out the MEN completely, not once.

So Hatton-Tszyu didn't sell out in two and a half hours then?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 89,00.html

Either you're talking bollocks now, or Frank was then. Which is it?

Chambers2 wrote:If someone can tell me how Lazcano brings more to the table than Junior then I'll STFU on Hattons avoidance of Witter

What Lazcano brings are modest purse demands, and a very slim chance of winning.

Lazcano will be getting peanuts compared to Hatton, and will be gratetful of the payday.

states wrote:

boxingchat wrote:

oliverfennell wrote: Sadly, yes.

Want to bet on it?

That much papering it should be sponsored by FADS.

Hatton has never sold anywhere near a football stadium of normal proportions, let alone Man City or Wembley. Maybe fill the Reebok or Oldham but that's it.

Never sold out the MEN completely, not once.

So Hatton-Tszyu didn't sell out in two and a half hours then?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 89,00.html

Either you're talking bollocks now, or Frank was then. Which is it?

Hatton v Tszyu was completely sold out, believe me I tried.

I was actually at the MEN the night before with Fennell and Terry D, watching Brodie v Harrison in a quarter-filled MEN.

It's horse shite.

And why do people always ask Boxing Chat questions when the answers are always anti-Hatton now he's left Frank?!

Captain Hook wrote:

states wrote:

boxingchat wrote: Want to bet on it?

That much papering it should be sponsored by FADS.

Hatton has never sold anywhere near a football stadium of normal proportions, let alone Man City or Wembley. Maybe fill the Reebok or Oldham but that's it.

Never sold out the MEN completely, not once.

So Hatton-Tszyu didn't sell out in two and a half hours then?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/stor ... 89,00.html

Either you're talking bollocks now, or Frank was then. Which is it?

Hatton v Tszyu was completely sold out, believe me I tried.

I was actually at the MEN the night before with Fennell and Terry D, watching Brodie v Harrison in a quarter-filled MEN.

It's horse shite.

I agree. It was definately sold out. I was there!

Terry D wrote:

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:

Captain Hook wrote: Hatton v Tszyu was completely sold out, believe me I tried.

I was actually at the MEN the night before with Fennell and Terry D, watching Brodie v Harrison in a quarter-filled MEN.

It's horse shite.

I agree. It was definately sold out. I was there!

You see what you are doing is using 'inside(r) the venue' information. BC has 'inside(r) an office' information that proves you are wrong. I think your jubilation at the idea of seeing Kostya in the flesh led you to believe you had booked tickets, made the trip North, and stood in the venue watching the fight when you so clearly did not.

Are you going to believe BC, or your lying eyes?

Come to think of it, Dirk and I had done a kilo of Ketamine beforehand,
so chances are we were just in the Trafford Centre. Reading Hunter S Thompson books.

I was actually begged by Fwank to stay overnight in a sleeping bag and keep the same seat for the Tszyu fight.

He also asked me to shout really loud and wave my arms around to make it look a little busier.

Captain Hook wrote:I was actually begged by Fwank to stay overnight in a sleeping bag and keep the same seat for the Tszyu fight.

He also asked me to shout really loud and wave my arms around to make it look a little busier.

I heard the crowd were made of cardboard. Possibly stolen from when Highbury was updated in the late 90s.

Waky wavy arm flailing inflatable tube men...

And they made a big copy of the Sgt Pepper cover and leant it againt the back wall

Terry D wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

Terry D wrote:PPV over here seems to be directed at casuals as mentioned. Bigger fights have not been PPV over here. The greed angle is fair enough but if Witter, or Calzaghe for that matter, was offered a PPV bout would it be turned down? Not likely.

Hopefully the whole Hatton/Witter saga will end soon enough.

As an aside the WBC mandate a certain purse split in favour of their title holder so to make the 30-70 a reality the WBC title may need to be dropped, or they may need a rule-bending sweetener.

Imagine, Witter has to drop the title to make the split, Hatton says "I'm not fighting him now he doesn't have a title".

DG explodes.

I don't think the sanctioning bodies ENFORCE the purse split if the champ is willing to take less than the customary percentage. Cases in point: Bruno v Tyson and De La Hoya vs any defending champion. The defending champs in those examples knew the challengers were the drawcards but they'd still make a big payday even with the short end of the purse.

So why put the stipulation. Is it purely for purse-bids scenarios? Say ODH, as a promoter, went for a WBC fight as #1 contender and won the bids for the fight. Stipulations would suggest 70-30 only for ODH to be able to say "as promoter of this fight, and your opponent I am now making the split 70-30 in my favour. How do you like those apples?"

What is the case then? How much would he have to duke the WBC to make a new ruling?

I assume the 70-30 split is automatically in place but can be waived when both parties agree to it. If one party doesn't agree, then the 70-30 goes ahead. But in situations such as the above, the champs often still agree to the short end of the purse so as not to lose the marquee fight (e.g if Bruno rejected Tyson getting the bigger percentage, he ran the risk of Tyson fighting a different champ instead and Bruno meeting a less lucrative alternative mandatory).

nickd wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

nickd wrote:I would think it would be PPV, once a fighter goes down the PPV route with Sky I don't recall them going back to regular Skysports after.

Danny Williams

Williams was hardly an established PPV fighter. Hatton is.

He was in three back-to-back PPVs: Tyson, Klitschko and, er, Petranyi! (as part of Hatton-Tszyu).

But yeah, I'm just being facetious.

states wrote:You'd hope it won't be PPV. Christ, even De La Hoya's next fight is going to be on regular HBO, isn't it?

Sadly, Hatton vs. Lazcano, or whoever else they find for May will no doubt be PPV. Still, the choice is there. I won't buy it, just like I didn't buy the Urango fight.

Then you missed one of Hatton's best performances.

Didn't he, Terry?

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:

Terry D wrote: As an aside the WBC mandate a certain purse split in favour of their title holder so to make the 30-70 a reality the WBC title may need to be dropped, or they may need a rule-bending sweetener.
.

Thats just mandatories isnt it, loads of WBC fights have split in favour of the challenger - Tyson-Bruno, Mayweather-Baldomir, Delahoya-BHOPs, etc, etc

Tyson-Bruno was a mandatory

oliverfennell wrote:

nickd wrote:

oliverfennell wrote: Danny Williams

Williams was hardly an established PPV fighter. Hatton is.

He was in three back-to-back PPVs: Tyson, Klitschko and, er, Petranyi! (as part of Hatton-Tszyu).

But yeah, I'm just being facetious.

Petranyi, was that his name? He's one of my fav fighters of all time, simply because he wore a Brian May wig to the ring, which in itself was brilliant, however, his performance proved to be even more ludicrous than his ring attire! Not laughed that much since.. well... in a long time.

According to BBC this will be on HBO, therefore expect a shitty start time:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7259693.stm

"The fight is set to be broadcast by American television broadcaster HBO and Hatton said he is close to announcing an opponent."

Some quotes from Hatton in the BBC article, linked in the post above-



"I will fight Junior Witter when I want to.

"I'm not saying I won't fight him. You can never say never but I will fight him when I choose to . "

What a joke! In what other sport does the athlete have the unilateral decision regarding whom he or she competes against?

"I think Junior needs to fight a few more creditable opponents because it's all about American television."

Oh, right, yeah- its all about American television. What a patriotic chap he is! Nice to see such loyalty too his British fanbase.

Sod him, let the americans have him- stick him on a couple of undercards, let see how he gets on without British support.

whicker wrote:Some quotes from Hatton in the BBC article, linked in the post above-



"I will fight Junior Witter when I want to.

"I'm not saying I won't fight him. You can never say never but I will fight him when I choose to . "

What a joke! In what other sport does the athlete have the unilateral decision regarding whom he or she competes against?

"I think Junior needs to fight a few more creditable opponents because it's all about American television."

Oh, right, yeah- its all about American television. What a patriotic chap he is! Nice to see such loyalty too his British fanbase.

Sod him, let the americans have him- stick him on a couple of undercards, let see how he gets on without British support.

Hatton is a product of the ignorance of the FOOTBALL fans who follow him.

The only PPV I will buy of Hattons is WITTER.

OR MAYBE A COTTO - CINTRON so I can see him get knocked out once again, Oh how I laughed when he head butted that Ring Post.

Hatton is a joke.

All about American tv eh. I know every boxers wanting to fight for the money but Hatton lacks alot of true love for the sport with shite like that. Hes got enough money already, he can fight the best fighters and not worry about money.

Floyd exposed his mentality bad.

Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:According to BBC this will be on HBO, therefore expect a shitty start time:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/7259693.stm

"The fight is set to be broadcast by American television broadcaster HBO and Hatton said he is close to announcing an opponent."

It shouldn't be according to Hatton's lawyer -

Williams added: "I had a meeting with HBO in New York in early January when they offered a three-fight deal to Ricky. We made it perfectly clear his next fight would be in Britain at a time convenient to the English fans.

Max Molyneux wrote:All about American tv eh. I know every boxers wanting to fight for the money but Hatton lacks alot of true love for the sport with shite like that. Hes got enough money already, he can fight the best fighters and not worry about money.

Floyd exposed his mentality bad.

True love for the sport? What about Calzaghe and his lame defences of his WBO belt?