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Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 04:57
by Goz
states wrote:Chelsea take more in gate receipts than Liverpool. A lot more. The latest Deloitte report had their matchday revenue at £74.5 million, compared to £38.4 million for Liverpool.
If this is true (exceptionally big if) I don't care.
If you think that by charging a million quid for private boxes to the city is in some way indicative of Chelski being a bigger club than Liverpool then you should stick to talking about boxing.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 05:01
by Goz
King Tubby wrote:
That's the whole point though, isn't it. Clubs like United and liverpool have more money than everyone else so bought better players so won more trophies so got more prize money so bought better players , so earnt more money in Asia etc,etc. Nice little closed shop. All of a sudden someone else gets a bit of money and 'It's not fair, we always had more money than everyone else and now they've getting in on the act, it's so unfair'. Who do you think takes more in gate money, Chelsea or Liverpool? You think Liverpool are not in debt? You think Man Utd are not in debt?
It wasn't a closed shop though. Back in the 70s and 80s the FA Cup used to get spread around a lot more.
As I said, those clubs are most definitely in some debt (Spurs aren't though - we shall inherit the earth when you all fall on your arse!) but long term are viable - Chelski are not, despite the amount of 5 minute football fans polluting Sky football pubs on Sunday afternoons.
And as I said before, Chelski never got 'a bit' of money. They blew everyone else out of the water changing the face of Premiership for the worse.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 07:21
by states
Goz wrote:states wrote:Chelsea take more in gate receipts than Liverpool. A lot more. The latest Deloitte report had their matchday revenue at £74.5 million, compared to £38.4 million for Liverpool.
If this is true (exceptionally big if) I don't care.
If you think that by charging a million quid for private boxes to the city is in some way indicative of Chelski being a bigger club than Liverpool then you should stick to talking about boxing.
I don't think it makes them a bigger club than Liverpool. I was just pointing out that they aren't some cap-in-hand paupers who couldn't compete with Liverpool until Uncle Roman gave them half a billion quid. To be honest, I'm not sure what argument King Tubby was trying to make.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 07:29
by Ted
It has to be:
O we hate totenham, o we hate totenham,
we hate totenham, oh we hate totenham
we hate totenham, oh WE HATE TOTENHAM.......
Were the totenham HATERS.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:11
by King Tubby
Goz wrote:King Tubby wrote:
That's the whole point though, isn't it. Clubs like United and liverpool have more money than everyone else so bought better players so won more trophies so got more prize money so bought better players , so earnt more money in Asia etc,etc. Nice little closed shop. All of a sudden someone else gets a bit of money and 'It's not fair, we always had more money than everyone else and now they've getting in on the act, it's so unfair'. Who do you think takes more in gate money, Chelsea or Liverpool? You think Liverpool are not in debt? You think Man Utd are not in debt?
It wasn't a closed shop though. Back in the 70s and 80s the FA Cup used to get spread around a lot more.
As I said, those clubs are most definitely in some debt (Spurs aren't though - we shall inherit the earth when you all fall on your arse!) but long term are viable - Chelski are not, despite the amount of 5 minute football fans polluting Sky football pubs on Sunday afternoons.
And as I said before, Chelski never got 'a bit' of money. They blew everyone else out of the water changing the face of Premiership for the worse.
You're right ,it wasn't a closed shop back in the 70's and 80's. The Russian's only been here a few years, can't blame him for everything. Have a look at what Sky and the bigger clubs' greed done for the game. If he goes, he's secured the debts, and we go back to what we were, a side trying to break into the top 4, a bit like yourselves.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:15
by boxingchat
MatthewS wrote:boxingchat wrote:Smigga wrote:eff off, Chelsea FC
You aint got no history
5 European Cups and 18 Leagues
Thats what WE call History
Sign on, Sign on, with a giro in your hand and you'll never get a job, you slob, you'll never get a job, sign on sign on.....
We want our hubcabs back, we want our hubcats back, we want our hubcaps back......
Which is it? Brighton, West Ham or Chelsea?
Cor if you are this transient with your football clubs, id hate to know how you feel about a boxer losing his 0
Chelsea? fornicate Off never guilty of that.
Who's 'O' ? Personally I think it's a good thing to lose.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:17
by King Tubby
states wrote:Goz wrote:states wrote:Chelsea take more in gate receipts than Liverpool. A lot more. The latest Deloitte report had their matchday revenue at £74.5 million, compared to £38.4 million for Liverpool.
If this is true (exceptionally big if) I don't care.
If you think that by charging a million quid for private boxes to the city is in some way indicative of Chelski being a bigger club than Liverpool then you should stick to talking about boxing.
I don't think it makes them a bigger club than Liverpool. I was just pointing out that they aren't some cap-in-hand paupers who couldn't compete with Liverpool until Uncle Roman gave them half a billion quid. To be honest, I'm not sure what argument King Tubby was trying to make.
Same point as you.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:18
by boxingchat
A great chant from Scots fans to Hibs (I think) when Graham Rix became their manager.
(To the tune of Manic Street Preachers)
"If you tolerate Rix then your children will be next......"
Also, going back to early 80's
(to the tune of Hersham Boys - Sham 69)
"Tottenham Boys, Tottenham Boys...No Pork Pies or Saveloys"
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:26
by states
King Tubby wrote:states wrote:Goz wrote:
If this is true (exceptionally big if) I don't care.
If you think that by charging a million quid for private boxes to the city is in some way indicative of Chelski being a bigger club than Liverpool then you should stick to talking about boxing.
I don't think it makes them a bigger club than Liverpool. I was just pointing out that they aren't some cap-in-hand paupers who couldn't compete with Liverpool until Uncle Roman gave them half a billion quid. To be honest, I'm not sure what argument King Tubby was trying to make.
Same point as you.
What point? That they make more money than Liverpool, but are still losing 75 million quid a year?
I don't have anything against Chelsea fans (well, not those who've been there longer than 5 minutes). It's not their fault Abramovich decided to pour money into a bottomless pit. Don't think it's good for the game though. Although, that said, there are a lot of things wrong with football besides Russian billionaires.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:31
by King Tubby
That we're a fair sized club, some people seem to think we was a lower league Club till the Russian came along.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:46
by states
Fair enough. It seems I completely misunderstood your point about gate receipts.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 09:49
by King Tubby
No mate, wouldn't dream of putting us on a level with Liverpool.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 10:03
by Goz
So we're all agreed then!
Great chant I remember once being taught by a drunken Glasweigan in a hotel bar in Belfast in the wee hours.
To the sound of Dean Martin - Amore
When the balls in the air
And it's not big Pierre
It's Di Canio.....
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 10:17
by King Tubby
I thought you lot were going to start a new tradition, Goz. Only winning a cup when the year started with a 1.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 10:21
by Goz
I think you'll find the one this year was JUANde Ramos.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 10:42
by King Tubby
Do you think he'll get you into the top 4 next year? Might overtake The Bank of England club.
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 10:51
by Goz
Not sure, depends who we sign in the summer.
Probably do need a new top notch keeper and a world Central Midfielder to play alongside Jenas.
Then I'd say we have a shout....
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 11:23
by King Tubby
nickd wrote:Has to be said Chelsea are mainly followed by glory hunters. They didn't have a huge fan base pre 1990's, in fact in the 80's their attendances were dismal. Most of the pudenda I know who 'support' Chelsea know f-all about football.
Who do you support mate? You seem to know your stuff.
http://www.nufc.com/html/attendance-all-time.html
Posted: 26 Feb 2008, 13:18
by m1kee50
Goz wrote:So we're all agreed then!
Great chant I remember once being taught by a drunken Glasweigan in a hotel bar in Belfast in the wee hours.
To the sound of Dean Martin - Amore
When the balls in the air
And it's not big Pierre
It's Di Canio.....
when the ball hits the head
of the fan in row z
thats Zamora!
"i love you baby"
oh matty etherington
he wore the blue and white
oh matty etherington
he saw the yids were shite
oh matty etherington,
now hes claret and blue!
He came from shite hart lane,
hes better than jermaine
Zamora! whoah, Zamora!
Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 06:39
by boxingchat
I can't read and I can't write but that don't really matter.....I've come down from Ipswich Town and I can drive a Tractor!
Posted: 27 Feb 2008, 06:44
by boxingchat
Two men went to bed, went to bed with Ashley. Two men, one man and a mobile phone....went to bed with Ashley.