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HomicideHenry wrote:

Ambling Alp II wrote:After reading this meandering post, I guess I will limit myself to your ridiculous comments about Gene Tunney.

First, he did fight Carpentier and beat him convincingly. Once again, you didn't do your research.
Of course he wanted title fights against any light heavyweight champion, but couldn't get them.

Care to name all of the "unknown European stock fighters" that Tunney was feasting on at light heavyweight? Sounds like yet another comment that you pulled out of thin air.
Tunney beat some very good competition. Besides Carpentier and Greb, he also beat Battling Levinsky, and Tommy Gibbons.

Not to make excuses but I have been sick... so, I wasn't thinking. My bad @ Tunney/Carpentier.

And... didnt Levinsky and Gibbons come near the end of Tunney's LHW days, or after he abandoned the weight?

Tunney went back and forth fighting both light heavyweights and heavyweights during the 1920s, which was common at the time. He beat Gibbons in 1925; both were over the light heavy limit. He beat Levinsky in 1922; Tunney was under the light heavyweight limit while Levinsky was slightly over it.
Both Tunney and Carpentier were under the light heavyweight limit when Tunney won in 1924.

The point is that Tunney beat good competition and gladly would have fought for the light heavyweight title against anyone in the early 1920s. He never got a shot at the light heavyweight title. As it was, he was a pro fighter for 11 years before he ever got a title shot.

Stanley ketchell was, in my view, close to unbeatable at middleweight. the papke fight was not really a loss and there was only a hair between SK and Langford. pretty much unbeatable

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Flump wrote:

littlepug wrote:Ray Leonard at welter and holyfield at cruiser

I think Duran might argue about Leonard but Holyfield at Cruiser, untouchable.

I'd pick more than a few "cruiser-sized" heavyweights to beat Evander. Let's not forget that Evander's competition at 190 was by and large dreadful save a blown-up Qawi.

Those saying Robinson at middle . . think you mean welterweight?