Many times boxers from the same state will compete against each other at club shows. We routinely have guys from Chicago, Northern Indiana, and Northern Ohio box at shows in Michigan. We also get boxers from Windsor. I do realize that California is a big state, but it is quite possible they had faced each other previously.boxmel wrote:Little seminar on California. There are 4 LBCs in California. Central and Northern are in one region and Southern, San Diego and Nevada in another. The only place that any California boxers from all 4 LBCs could have competed against each other was either in State Silver Gloves or State Golden Gloves. Of course, they can meet up against each other at the Championships if they both make their regional team.119 - Roman Morales, San Ardo, Calif. vs. Ronny Rios, Santa Ana, Calif. My guess is that these guys have boxed before as they are both from California. Not
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I always recommend that boxers go to boxing shows and tournaments just to watch. It takes away the anxiety later on when they are actually competing in the shows and tournaments. Hal - when you get your tree, could you send me a seedling from it? I really could use it.squarering wrote:It's a great atmophere out there, I think one of the best things a coach can do for a young serious upstart if it can be afforded is to take hime to watch this event. I know for a fact that it was a key in one of my boxers setting a higher goal and knowing what to shoot for. Maby someday when money grows on trees each LBCs or region would get stipen to take 1 or 2 Jrs that are showing real potential to travel with the team and witness what happens at this level. IMO it would be a key to turning out better boxers.
Regarding the semi-finals. I was correct about the 106# bouts.
Same with the 112# class.
119# class too.
125# class - I didn't really predict, but I thought Robb would win and I got that one wrong.
132 - I figured Gonzales would win, but it surprised me that Pagan lost by 1 point.
141 - I got both of them right.
152 - I thought Spence would win, but he lost on a tie-breaker. I was correct with Starks winning.
165 - I figured we would be seeing a Porter v Arias final. Too bad for Arias that Kenny Porter knows him very well. That will help Shawn in this bout.
178 - I was correct but Faulk gave Crane a better fight than I expected.
201 - I don't know this Bissett guy, but he must be a pretty good boxer. Graziano won as I expected.
201+ - It was tough to predict since I didn't know Hamer or Agha. Hamer stopped Shepherd in the first. What happened? Is Hamer that good or did he just land the one big shot? Thompson made it difficult for Agha and won. He can make it difficult for anyone because of his style.
Same with the 112# class.
119# class too.
125# class - I didn't really predict, but I thought Robb would win and I got that one wrong.
132 - I figured Gonzales would win, but it surprised me that Pagan lost by 1 point.
141 - I got both of them right.
152 - I thought Spence would win, but he lost on a tie-breaker. I was correct with Starks winning.
165 - I figured we would be seeing a Porter v Arias final. Too bad for Arias that Kenny Porter knows him very well. That will help Shawn in this bout.
178 - I was correct but Faulk gave Crane a better fight than I expected.
201 - I don't know this Bissett guy, but he must be a pretty good boxer. Graziano won as I expected.
201+ - It was tough to predict since I didn't know Hamer or Agha. Hamer stopped Shepherd in the first. What happened? Is Hamer that good or did he just land the one big shot? Thompson made it difficult for Agha and won. He can make it difficult for anyone because of his style.
Please remember that the crowd was only seeing one point of view - from the bleachers.Many felt the scoring in the 4th was unfair.Many solid shots by Baker weren't scored.The crowd was groaning.(remember many of these observers are knowledable coaches and fighters not just armchair second guessers)
Many times boxers from the same state will compete against each other at club shows.
Rare in California. Northern California is 8 hours away; Central is 4+. We have enough shows in Southern California and San Diego so that our boxers don't have to travel.
Not to my knowledge. :PI do realize that California is a big state, but it is quite possible they had faced each other previously.
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Pleasure meeting you, too! One of the funner conversations I'd had while there. If you learned anything during your competition, the trip was worth it and that's even better. Hope to see you around.Hey Mel! Great meeting you. It's a good thing you left before I fought though, I did terrible.
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Glad you at least know it was the ropes that did it. Many of our boxers still don't have a clue. Come to the PAL with Kolya. I might come judge this year.....maybe. 8)I lost by 7. She did the 'ol 1-2 run and the only time I could land was to the body when I got her on the ropes and I knew only two judges could see.
Glad you at least know it was the ropes that did it. Many of our boxers still don't have a clue. Come to the PAL with Kolya. I might come judge this year.....maybe. 8)I lost by 7. She did the 'ol 1-2 run and the only time I could land was to the body when I got her on the ropes and I knew only two judges could see.
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Taylor lost a great fight tonight.O'Connor slugged it out toe to toe with Taylor losing on points.Arias won on walk over.I heard Porter was physically unable to Fight.Dorian Anthony used smarts to take away Crane's power.Outboxing him in a very close fight.Crane fought well,only Anthony prevailed.In the Graziano/Bissett fight Graziano knocked out Bissett with a beautiful right in the second.Bissett tried boxing Graziano instead of pressing him and got caught.He got right up but the referee saw enough and ended it.
Ahhh - thanks for the info. Sorry to hear; we are always about safety, first and foremost. Shouls Shawn stick around, he'll be on top for sure.As I heard it, Shawn Porter was ready to box, but got a medical disqualification because he had a swollen eye. It was not swollen shut and his vision was perfect, but the Dr. decided to DQ him. It would have been a spectacular match to watch.
I think it is clear that, except of course for Olympian Deontay Wilder, Jeremiah Graziano is the dominant amateur heavyweight in the country. His youtube fights are very impressive. I started watching them after he was at the PAL tournament last year. He does not have very much experience yet he has been able to stop several very good fighters in these tournaments like Holland, Imoseiri, Lewis, and more. He may end up like Tyson and have his opponents scared before the fight even starts. Guys may even change weight classes to avoid him.
He seems to have a weakness against Craig Baker though. From the camera angle I saw from their PAL fight I would have given Baker more points. Baker almost walked through his big shots. But, thus far, some can beat Baker by outboxing him. If anyone is going to beat him they need to follow that game plan and try to back him up (similar to Holyfield-Tyson). He will definitely generate alot of excitement because, despite amateur boxing's points emphasis, knockouts are where its at, amateur or pro.
He seems to have a weakness against Craig Baker though. From the camera angle I saw from their PAL fight I would have given Baker more points. Baker almost walked through his big shots. But, thus far, some can beat Baker by outboxing him. If anyone is going to beat him they need to follow that game plan and try to back him up (similar to Holyfield-Tyson). He will definitely generate alot of excitement because, despite amateur boxing's points emphasis, knockouts are where its at, amateur or pro.
I immidatley thought of Mike Tyson when I watched Graziano's fights on youtube. Just the way he knocks guys out with one shot is chilling. He mentioned on one of his videos that Baker was the first of his 14 wins to not be by KO, that is amazing for the amatuers.
I think Graziano could beat Wilder. Wilder seems to get hurt in all the fights Ive seen of his and Grazianos got that pop to do it. Should be interesting to see if he can capture the triple crown of national titles.
I think Graziano could beat Wilder. Wilder seems to get hurt in all the fights Ive seen of his and Grazianos got that pop to do it. Should be interesting to see if he can capture the triple crown of national titles.
Now that Graziano is the national champion they will probably have him training with the Olympic team in Colorado. They better put some 25 oz. gloves on him if he spars or else he will have the Olympic team injured. I'm serious. I am amazed by his power from the youtube fights. There has to be pro promoters salivating. That kind of power is soooooooo rare.
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Another young boxer with power is lightheavyweight Joe Gumina .Out of his first 15 wins he had something like 12 K.o.'s. as a lightheavyweight.I heard he has been sparing with Andre Ward and at Wild card.He puts on a good show.3 K.o.'s at the Cal Pal's.Maybe you saw him Boxmel.
Point well taken.i think the Pal nationals were his first open bouts.However,didn't Dorian Just with the Future champ Nationals ? And Gumina lost to Spencer,who's no Tomato can,16-15 after running out of gas in the 4th round after being ahead the whole fight.Spencer who took quite a pounding,lost the next day looking like he had nothing left.
