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Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 17:23
by steve689
I wish Gary all the best and good luck to him, Duddy must be raging! It seems a strange one that Lockett got a shot at the undisputed division number one with a recent record of....Kpadenue, G.Eastman, Rhodes, Powers, Blundell, Kauramaki.

But still, the WBU title must reap dividends. Best of luck Gary!

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 17:38
by Abbo
Saw this fight, and the first thought I had was "i bet that was cheap to make, certain to be a great bill".

First announced support fight? Daniel Ponce De Leon vs Juan Manuel Lopez. What a cracker!!

Also, and it must be an error in location, Arthur Abraham is down to fight at MSG on the same night. As a billed future opponent of Pavlik, I assume he will be on the undercard too.

No way will he be on a bill in NY, whilst these boys fight in Atlantic City.

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 17:45
by chris_23
Mindless fornicating idiots posting on here who just want to be the one to say "he's got no chance" but they'd be the same fornicating idiots wanting to chat to him and shake his hand if they saw him out... cocks!

If thats what you think why do you feel like you want to piss on someone elses chips eh? does it make you feel good inside you fornicating knobend? How much boxing experience have you got?

The crazy thing about boxing is you can expect the unexpected and it does only take one shot..

Keep your anti welsh postings you pair of wankers above - you're just jealous that the best gym in britain is in wales... fornicating pricks

Ps Tsarenko was a split decision at light middleweight when Gary had to lose too much weight to be healthy in the days before the fight and broke his hand in the 3rd round you dosey twat!! shows how much you know..

Do me a favour if you don't support him why don't you fornicate off and tell someone else about it because there are a few people on here who'd like to see him do well..

we're not daft we know he ain't the favourite but to say he'll be an embarassment is just spiteful english bullshit because there is no one else in this country who could do a better job!!!!

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 17:52
by chris_23
Abbo wrote:Saw this fight, and the first thought I had was "i bet that was cheap to make, certain to be a great bill".

First announced support fight? Daniel Ponce De Leon vs Juan Manuel Lopez. What a cracker!!

Also, and it must be an error in location, Arthur Abraham is down to fight at MSG on the same night. As a billed future opponent of Pavlik, I assume he will be on the undercard too.

No way will he be on a bill in NY, whilst these boys fight in Atlantic City.
I think it's likely to be Atlantic City - I'll post when I hear more because I'm going over to watch this puppy!!

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 17:56
by sweetscience
chris it is a mis-match

people are entitled to say so

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 17:58
by ciscokid
chris_23 wrote:And while I'm at it where people are commenting on the class of his opponents I'm inclined to think he's a victim of his own success here. Let me tell you that there aren't many volunteers queuing up to fight him for that WBU title like all the other recents champs who have defended it everyother month.... and there is a reason for that: that he generally wins by KO. He's had that title for well over 18 months and made 2 defences of it - tells a story that does!!

Do you know at some stages of his career he's had either no fights in a 12 month or at most 1 or 2 for this very reason. The amount of people who have been supposed to fight him and mysteriously pulled out or taken easier fights is unreal so THIS IS WELL OVERDUE in my book.

GET BEHIND HIM BOXREC HE COULD SHOCK YOU YET!!!!
Mate - it's great that you are supporting him as it obvious that he'd your mate and you want him to do well. I can't say for sure, but honestly don't think that Elcock, Howard Eastman, Richard Williams, Paul SMith or Duddy would duck Lockett? If you know of any different please let me know! :-)

Look at the fights that he's had for the WBU - He did well against Rhodes, but Gilbert Eastman and Blundell - come on mate, you're kidding yourself if you think he's fighting the best out there.

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 18:03
by Abbo
I'm sure that everyone wishes Gary the best of luck, but everyone is also entitled to their opinion right?

Looking at Garys record, in the cold light of day, I cant figure out for the life of me how he deserves to get in the ring with the stellar world middleweight champ. And a bloody good champion too. Gary is rated 15th best of a mediocre European crop, and only 6th in this country.

However, its clearly a masterpiece of promoting as Arum is very quick to state that the whole event will be used as a sideshow vehicle for Joe Calzaghe to be banging the canvas, and for him and KP to call each other out in the ring WWF after the fight. "I must avenge my brother etc. After Hopkins I'm coming for you Kelly etc etc".

So I'll be there shouting him on, but it doesnt mean I think he's got more than a 20/1 shot. But then, 20/1 shots sometimes win.

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 18:05
by chris_23
ciscokid wrote:
chris_23 wrote:And while I'm at it where people are commenting on the class of his opponents I'm inclined to think he's a victim of his own success here. Let me tell you that there aren't many volunteers queuing up to fight him for that WBU title like all the other recents champs who have defended it everyother month.... and there is a reason for that: that he generally wins by KO. He's had that title for well over 18 months and made 2 defences of it - tells a story that does!!

Do you know at some stages of his career he's had either no fights in a 12 month or at most 1 or 2 for this very reason. The amount of people who have been supposed to fight him and mysteriously pulled out or taken easier fights is unreal so THIS IS WELL OVERDUE in my book.

GET BEHIND HIM BOXREC HE COULD SHOCK YOU YET!!!!
Mate - it's great that you are supporting him as it obvious that he'd your mate and you want him to do well. I can't say for sure, but honestly don't think that Elcock, Howard Eastman, Richard Williams, Paul SMith or Duddy would duck Lockett? If you know of any different please let me know! :-)

Look at the fights that he's had for the WBU - He did well against Rhodes, but Gilbert Eastman and Blundell - come on mate, you're kidding yourself if you think he's fighting the best out there.
The periods of inactivity speak for themself and I do think he should have had more fights to date.

Re the fighters - Elcock pulled out twice, Eastman (H) out of the frame in america 2 years ago but now Gary would beat him convincingly IMO Richard Williams/Paul Smith and Duddy he would beat too but none of them have been keen on fightin him...

I am his mate as it happens and I'm absolutely delighted with the fight win/lose or draw because if he puts in a good show v Pavlik and loses he still gets bigger fights.

The irony of all the slagging on here is that HBO chose Gary above a list of others (see here) http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3288632

I'll be going to the fight and in fact don't I remember me and you chatting about this before...?

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 18:06
by ciscokid
Abbo wrote:I'm sure that everyone wishes Gary the best of luck, but everyone is also entitled to their opinion right?

Looking at Garys record, in the cold light of day, I cant figure out for the life of me how he deserves to get in the ring with the stellar world middleweight champ. And a bloody good champion too. Gary is rated 15th best of a mediocre European crop, and only 6th in this country.

However, its clearly a masterpiece of promoting as Arum is very quick to state that the whole event will be used as a sideshow vehicle for Joe Calzaghe to be banging the canvas, and for him and KP to call each other out in the ring WWF after the fight. "I must avenge my brother etc. After Hopkins I'm coming for you Kelly etc etc".

So I'll be there shouting him on, but it doesnt mean I think he's got more than a 20/1 shot. But then, 20/1 shots sometimes win.
Nail on the head.

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 18:08
by chris_23
Abbo wrote:I'm sure that everyone wishes Gary the best of luck, but everyone is also entitled to their opinion right?

Looking at Garys record, in the cold light of day, I cant figure out for the life of me how he deserves to get in the ring with the stellar world middleweight champ. And a bloody good champion too. Gary is rated 15th best of a mediocre European crop, and only 6th in this country.

However, its clearly a masterpiece of promoting as Arum is very quick to state that the whole event will be used as a sideshow vehicle for Joe Calzaghe to be banging the canvas, and for him and KP to call each other out in the ring WWF after the fight. "I must avenge my brother etc. After Hopkins I'm coming for you Kelly etc etc".

So I'll be there shouting him on, but it doesnt mean I think he's got more than a 20/1 shot. But then, 20/1 shots sometimes win.
I'm pleased that you are shouting him on but I must say how are you saying 6th in Britain...? he's way above domestic level for the love of god!!??

see my other posting... what you honestly think, name names...

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 18:12
by chris_23
I've literally just checked the ratings he's ineligible for an EBU ranking as he has a WBU belt.... can't find bristish ranking...

Posted: 13 Mar 2008, 20:22
by The Blade
[quote="chris_23"]Mindless effing idiots posting on here who just want to be the one to say "he's got no chance" but they'd be the same effing idiots wanting to chat to him and shake his hand if they saw him out... cocks!

If thats what you think why do you feel like you want to piss on someone elses chips eh? does it make you feel good inside you effing knobend? How much boxing experience have you got?

The crazy thing about boxing is you can expect the unexpected and it does only take one shot..

Keep your anti welsh postings you pair of wankers above - you're just jealous that the best gym in britain is in wales... effing pricks


Tsarenko was a split decision at light middleweight when Gary had to lose too much weight to be healthy in the days before the fight and broke his hand in the 3rd round you dosey twat!! shows how much you know..

Do me a favour if you don't support him why don't you eff off and tell someone else about it because there are a few people on here who'd like to see him do well..

we're not daft we know he ain't the favourite but to say he'll be an embarassment is just spiteful english bullshit because there is no one else in this country who could do a better job!!!![/quote

well said

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 03:33
by ciscokid
chris_23 wrote:I'm pleased that you are shouting him on but I must say how are you saying 6th in Britain...? he's way above domestic level for the love of god!!??

see my other posting... what you honestly think, name names...
Chris, mate, Gary is a hard punching untested fighter. He's had some great KO's, and I thought that he boxed really well against Rhodes, but apart from him, none have come against rated opposition.

To suggest he's above domestic level is just silly - I've had a quick scan on the net and can't find any official rankings, but I doubt many people would rate him the top fighter in the UK, I tend to lean towards the boxrec ratings for fighters and this has him 15th in EU (although in my rankings he would be a little higher)... ;-)

Fair play to him getting a shot at Pavlik I hope he does well and you have a great time out there.

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 03:42
by The Blade
DG. wrote:
The Blade wrote:
ciscokid wrote: Just out of interest - do you know how much he's (Lockett), going to get from this?
That would be saying
In other words, you have no idea.
Incorrect. But I would not want my earnings put on here and, I suspect, neither would Gary or you for that matter. However, this being an American fight, it is likely the purses will be disclosed in the fullness of time.

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 05:08
by ALI
Although i cannot honestly give Lockett much of a chance of beating Pavlik, and also that i do not see where he got this shot from, you can definate'ly let him know from me that he is not without support. I'll be hoping he can pull of an almighty upset and i'll be rooting for him all the way. He has always seemed like a decent guy, i remember him comming up during our 'peak' of light middles some years back when he was bowling his oponents over one after another. We had Williams, Farnell, Takaloo, Stone and Lockett all vying for the #1 spot. They were hard to split at the time but i would have liked to have seen Lockett beat a few of them. Wether he would have or not i cant say, but he would have gotten my support then and he'll get it again now.

This is a forum of free speech (the reason we are all here) and anyone and everyone should be allowed to comment as they wish on any fight. However, i would like to see a few more come out and show there support for Lockett. He's from these shores (yes, i'm refferring to the UK as a whole) so lets get behind him somewhat even if you think he has little chance of winning. Say so, but wish him the best also. Fans support goes a long way i'm sure, to think that he's reading these forums (as his friend above points out that he does), and most of our comments so far being pretty negative, i cant help but feel thats not going to be good for his morale! I'm sure he realises the challenge he's up against and he'll need all the support he can get...... so lets give him some!

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 05:34
by MightyWarrior
Riddick Blowe wrote:People seem to be getting mixed up with levels again.

Saying Lockett 'can punch' is meaningless in regard to this fight.
Are you refering to the Enzo/Haye fight, with your first line, oh wise one? Well if you're going to keep banging on about it, I may as well point out thay you predicted Haye was going to get pullverized, when the fight was first announced. :D

And you've really no idea if Taylor actually punches harder than Lockett right now, not unless you've taken one on the chin from each. As you say, Lockett has it all to prove, still.

We shall see - we've heard this same argument about levels many times before - usualy correct, but not always.
Did you imagine that Honeyghan was going to blast out Don Curry? That was even more far fetched than Gary winning this one. You just never know for sure.

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 05:58
by Old bones Ian
One thing that dissapoints me, is when a boxer such as Lockett hasn't faced anyone , he gets slagged off. Now when he steps up to face the topman he gets slagged off, or the match gets slagged off.

Why?

Damned if he does, damned if he don't.

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 12:33
by chris_23
Sensible post there Terry...

I think of course he is the underdog but he has a good chance and I agree he has a better chance than Duddy.... I think everyone accepts its a step up in class but he can only fight who they stick infront of him and unfortunately not many people want to fight Gary, because he can dig and is risky...

Like I said in my previous post (and you touched on it here) anyone can be beaten on any one night, just ask Kirland Laing who beat Roberto Duran/Hasim Rahman who ko'd Lewis/Buster Douglas who ko'd the baddest man on the planet in 1990/Lloyd Honeygan who beat the pound for pound king Don Curry back in the 80's.... it can be done and even a loss with a good performance can raise Locketts profile & standing!!

I would just love to see Pavlik walk onto a big dig from Lockett and wobble... that would be heaven on a stick...

he's got nothing to lose & everything to gain...

C'Mon son!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :box: :TU: :D

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 12:45
by chris_23
Looking on Boxrec, I see that Lockett is fighting on the 22nd of March - anyone know who he's fighting?[/quote]

He's not now by the way...

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 13:51
by StepinFetchit
Lockett is a BUM, i give him two rounds max against Pavlik.

Search!!!

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 13:55
by tenbyblue
Why don't you just curl up in a little hole and vanish,
I don't think you have said a nice thing about anyone and looking at other posts from yourself your lies seem to be catching up with you fast.

My guess would be that you are a young lonely man who gets off on the attention you are getting with your stupid, hate filled comments (I know i am feeding you even more here). Why don't you get a life or give us some constructive comment/criticisms.

Everyone knows Pavlic is very good and will start heavy favourite, he would against any of the current middleweights on the planet, but Lockett has as good a chance as any with his punching power and to get personal with some of your comments about him just makes you sound like a small boy with some kind of vendetta.

Regards

Pete :D

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 14:14
by chris_23
StepinFetchit wrote:Lockett is a BUM, i give him two rounds max against Pavlik.
What an absolute tool you are mate as the chap above said why don't you fornicate off you spiteful jealous c*nt, if that is all you can say you have clearly got a sad life...

Whats wrong mate don't you like to see people do well?... you are probably the kind of bloke who is jealous of his mates when they get payrises you sad twat!!

This is the undisputed middleweight title - the height of someones career and all you can say is that.... what a cock!!!!!

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 14:53
by StepinFetchit
chris_23 wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:Lockett is a BUM, i give him two rounds max against Pavlik.
What an absolute tool you are mate as the chap above said why don't you eff off you spiteful jealous c*nt, if that is all you can say you have clearly got a sad life...

Whats wrong mate don't you like to see people do well?... you are probably the kind of bloke who is jealous of his mates when they get payrises you sad twat!!

This is the undisputed middleweight title - the height of someones career and all you can say is that.... what a cock!!!!!

Your the tool, along with all those know nothing c^ntz who thought Enzo Macrinelli had a chance against Haye or Hatton did against Mayweather.

Dream all you want about Lockett landing a lucky punch on Pavlik.....Lockett is a BUM with no skills......all you metro-sexual's keep talking about a British fighter doing a "Honyghan" everytime a Brit is put in over their heads..............aint gonna happen, Lloyd was a bad ass..........Lockett aint sh!t......now go ahead and bet the little savings you had on Gary Sockett, then cry me a river.......

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 15:14
by chris_23
StepinFetchit wrote:
chris_23 wrote:
StepinFetchit wrote:Lockett is a BUM, i give him two rounds max against Pavlik.
What an absolute tool you are mate as the chap above said why don't you eff off you spiteful jealous c*nt, if that is all you can say you have clearly got a sad life...

Whats wrong mate don't you like to see people do well?... you are probably the kind of bloke who is jealous of his mates when they get payrises you sad twat!!

This is the undisputed middleweight title - the height of someones career and all you can say is that.... what a cock!!!!!

Your the tool, along with all those know nothing c^ntz who thought Enzo Macrinelli had a chance against Haye or Hatton did against Mayweather.

Dream all you want about Lockett landing a lucky punch on Pavlik.....Lockett is a BUM with no skills......all you metro-sexual's keep talking about a British fighter doing a "Honyghan" everytime a Brit is put in over their heads..............aint gonna happen, Lloyd was a bad ass..........Lockett aint sh!t......now go ahead and bet the little savings you had on Gary Sockett, then cry me a river.......
Know nothing c^nts yeah.... so how many boxers do you know, have seen, trained with..? you're a dick who is clearly showing his ignorance about boxing - to describe him as a bum is ridiculous and you know it. Someone is just trying to be the billy big banana's on the forum because you're a sad little twat whose done fuckall in his life..

my little savings...FYI I run my own business and I could probably buy and sell you twice before taking a shit in the morning so grow up you sad twat..

speak constructively about boxing or don't post.. I'm not claiming to be the 'all knowing ' I'm just cheering on because I'm a FAN not a spiteful/hate filled c^nt like you clearly are..

why don't you pop off down the workingmans club and play dart n talk shite to people who give a fornicate you clown :D

Posted: 14 Mar 2008, 15:16
by chris_23
:TU: