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mercman wrote:

Yes I remember that about Jacobs. Didn't Pat Clinton end up the same?

Ahhh, yes, I think I remember that about Clinton. Shame really - good boxer.

I haven't heard of Pat Clinton ever being sent down.

You sure it wasn't Paul Weir?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3180460.stm

Apologies, it was Paul Weir I was thinking of.

harrygreb wrote:sorry mister but it was you who started having a pop because i told it like it is about delaney. its no secret about what a swell fella he is. i cant really see your point about garry not being able to defend himself from people like me having a go at him. when you get put away for hitting an innocent man so hard that he doesnt have time to say goodbye to his wife and kids you rule yourself out of partaking in some of the niceties of life, like, for instance, posting on BOXREC. as i have never committed murder and am currently free to walk the streets - i can.

the fella who passed away diddn't have any kids or a wife and i think you are going off what was wrote in the papers i know someone who was at the old bailey for the hole trial and on the cctv you see the man go to throw a punch at garry first but that was not in the news and when they said (the punch lifted the man off the floor) well garry was not the biggest of punchers so do you think he could lift a 6ft3 16st man off the floor i dont but at the end of the day whats done is done and i dont give a foooook about other peoples actions

I have alot of old vhs tapes of Robert Mandrill Pews USA Friday night Fights from the 80's.He used to train with Dan The Beast .He was in prison in S.C. ...He and most of his corner were cell mates when released they all got into the boxing scene in Tampa Fl with a corner full of exmurders. He went to 14-0 mostly knock outs & all mostly ending in the first 2 rounds.He broke the rib of his oponent in his first fight.(Reply to nuts remarks on the Pew Vs Stachouse Fight)In Pews fight with Stackhouse Pew knocked Stackhouse down 3 times in the first 2 rounds & ended up winning the fight in the 4th.. He was a hot prospect & could of been something Not to sure What ever happened to him though??Think he went blind or got on drugs????

Joe, look at boxrec under Calvin Porter. Two come up, one a Calvin Portier. Think they are same guy?

BarryWashington wrote:

ringhistorian wrote:I have alot of old vhs tapes of Robert Mandrill Pews USA Friday night Fights from the 80's.He used to train with Dan The Beast .He was in prison in S.C. ...He and most of his corner were cell mates when released they all got into the boxing scene in Tampa Fl with a corner full of exmurders. He went to 14-0 mostly knock outs & all mostly ending in the first 2 rounds.He broke the rib of his oponent in his first fight.(Reply to nuts remarks on the Pew Vs Stachouse Fight)In Pews fight with Stackhouse Pew knocked Stackhouse down 3 times in the first 2 rounds & ended up winning the fight in the 4th.. He was a hot prospect & could of been something Not to sure What ever happened to him though??Think he went blind or got on drugs????

who? never heard of him

I don't remember him either, but based on his boxrec entry it looks like he simply ran into a better caliber of fighter in Leroy Hester and Murray Sutherland.

I think Tim 'Doc' Anderson is doing a long stretch for murder

Saw on KOTV this afternoon had the Harlem Hammer James Butler who did 4 months for the assault on Richard "the Alien" Grant post fight which he lost on points and is currently doing 29 years for Manslaughter, his victim one Sam Kellerman the brother of HBO commentator Max Kellerman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Butler_%28boxer%29

BarryWashington wrote:

IRLangmaid25 wrote:Saw on KOTV this afternoon had the Harlem Hammer James Butler who did 4 months for the assault on Richard "the Alien" Grant post fight which he lost on points and is currently doing 29 years for Manslaughter, his victim one Sam Kellerman the brother of HBO commentator Max Kellerman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Butler_%28boxer%29

yep and want to hear the ironic part? he killed kellerman with a hammer

And for the kicker he torched the place to hide the evidence of the deed.

Rydell Booker

Isn't Reggie Gross inside for about 700 years??!

milpool wrote:Isn't Reggie Gross inside for about 700 years??!

Two life sentences according this article http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/ ... -storyutil

ike ibeabuchi, undefeated heavyweight that had great potentially IMO

I am not sure how this fits the criteria but I will mention it anyway Brian Anderson http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer. Because he now works in the Prison service and was former Guvnor at Doncaster nick http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/ ... 295901.ece, but I remember someone saying on here that he is now in charge of a Young Offenders nick.

Clifford the Black Rhino”,Etienne, sentenced to 150 years in prison he got knocked out by a shot tyson in 49 seconds

Just been looking through old threads and I see this is still going strong on page 1.

fastinating really that most of the boxers in prison are there for murder or manslaughter. I wonder why these are there after boxing surely made them money??

-KOKid- wrote:Michael Dokes was sentenced to 29 years (I think it was) for possession of drugs and beating up his wife.
I remember reading a story on it in which the police officer, who was a boxing fan, said Dokes had beat his wife far worse than he ever beat an opponent in the ring.

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dokes has been out for a while he wasnt sentenced to 29 years i think it was more like 15 and he served 10 or 11.....anyway hes fighting cancer and has been in a terrible way God help him.

joe kurtz wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:Robert Pew, a super middleweight who was featured in The Ring's New Faces section in the 1980's, either is or certainly was in prison for murder.
At one time he was rated as a fairly hot prospect and was something like 12-0 (9) before Murray Sutherland ( I think) derailed him with a TKO.

Oh yeah, I remember "Few Survive" Pew from the good ol' days of the USA Friday Night Fights. Which featured him often until he ran into the rugged journeyman Ricky Stackhouse who took away his unbeaten record. Then Sutherland further exposed him as a rather severely limited banger.

Jimmy Ralston was in prison for a while, I heard.

Is he doing ok these days? Still training young boxers over at the PAL?

wsbuf wrote:Joe, look at boxrec under Calvin Porter. Two come up, one a Calvin Portier. Think they are same guy?

Hey, sorry it took me so long to your post. LOL
I never saw it when you posted it a couple of years ago. But, the thread resurfaced & I finally saw it. Although, as you can see, I'm replying to it under my new moniker.

As for your whether the three fights in question were fought by "Pop" Porter, I can't say for certain. But, judging by the timeline, where this "Portier" billed himself as being from & the weights listed, I'm going to go out on a limb & say that yeah, " Calvin Portier" & Calvin Porter were one & the same.
Thanks for pointing this out to me.
Come to think of it, before he was killed, "Pop" always did claim to have had about 20 pro fights rather than just the 13 that his record shows. So, there are probably even a few more that we haven't discover yet & likely never will...

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

joe kurtz wrote:

Boxingnut wrote:Robert Pew, a super middleweight who was featured in The Ring's New Faces section in the 1980's, either is or certainly was in prison for murder.
At one time he was rated as a fairly hot prospect and was something like 12-0 (9) before Murray Sutherland ( I think) derailed him with a TKO.

Oh yeah, I remember "Few Survive" Pew from the good ol' days of the USA Friday Night Fights. Which featured him often until he ran into the rugged journeyman Ricky Stackhouse who took away his unbeaten record. Then Sutherland further exposed him as a rather severely limited banger.

Jimmy Ralston was in prison for a while, I heard.

Is he doing ok these days? Still training young boxers over at the PAL?

Jimmy's got his own gym/club now & regularly puts on amateur shows here in the Buffalo area.
His son Les hasn't fought for a few years now & is retired I believe.

bluerosekiller wrote:

Cutman Scabbers wrote:

joe kurtz wrote:
Oh yeah, I remember "Few Survive" Pew from the good ol' days of the USA Friday Night Fights. Which featured him often until he ran into the rugged journeyman Ricky Stackhouse who took away his unbeaten record. Then Sutherland further exposed him as a rather severely limited banger.

Jimmy Ralston was in prison for a while, I heard.

Is he doing ok these days? Still training young boxers over at the PAL?

Jimmy's got his own gym/club now & regularly puts on amateur shows here in the Buffalo area.
His son Les hasn't fought for a few years now & is retired I believe.

Thanks, Joe. I remember seeing Les fight as an amateur, and then hearing about his fight with Sergio Mora (in Chicago?).

Do you know if there are any of Jimmy's pro bouts on video?
I'd sure like to see some. He taught me a lot about boxing over at the old PAL Gym on the UB South Campus.

No on the Jimmy Ralston fight videos. I've done some pretty thorough searches online & have turned up nothing.
I'm sure there's films of a couple of his bouts floating around in this area, but I've never seen any of 'em.

Robert was the closest thing I had to a dad. My mom dated him for 4-5 years. He came out of prison boxing. Was doing great. He didnt loose a fight until he found cocaine. That sent him literally spiraling to the bottom. My mom wasnt doing great for herself when they dated either. He did alot of crap to his body but always stayed in shape without working out. All sorts of stories of him fighting. Wish I could fight videos of his fights.

Jose Stable who fought Emile Griffith is doing life in Florida. Dexter Smith is doing a long stretch and Juan Arroyo -a victim of drug addiction- is doing his fifth or sixth stretch in Florida for robbery.

Robbie Regan did a stretch. Scrap iron Ryan. Terry Dunstan.

No ones mentioned Mike Tyson, Johnny tapia or Bernard Hopkins