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Posted: 17 Apr 2008, 18:12
by Hagler2002
TheGoods wrote:Kessler is at least on Hopkins' level.
How on earth have you come to this conclusion :o

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 00:04
by Colesy
Calzaghe comes on strong late and wins by 3 rounds. B-Hop does enough spoiling to make it close until then.

Taking the Mrs to Vegas tomorrow for our first fight on the Strip. Can't wait. Who says I never take her anywhere.........lucky b1tch.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 04:38
by DavidPayne
My post about Buncey was still the best one on here.

However, I think the Bika fight will have informed Hopkins a little. I can imagine we'll see a mixture of tactics. I think Hopkins may try to get some doubt into Joe's mind by rushing in with that right hand and head, the smother him. Make Joe panic that on his Las Vegas debut he's not doing what he wanted to do, throw shots.

Hopkins will then switch to counter-puncher and wait with that right hand cocked. If Calzaghe gets over-eager and piles in, the could get stiffened or dropped by that right hand.

However, I still believe Calzaghe will win. He has more ways to win, is younger and faster and has better stamina.

Calzaghe points after a poor start.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 04:43
by Slapsie Maxie
B-Hop

Cagey points win

S

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 05:00
by overhand_right
Hagler2002 wrote:
TheGoods wrote:Kessler is at least on Hopkins' level.
How on earth have you come to this conclusion :o
Un frickin believable remark.

Hopkins has boxed since the dawn of time.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 05:05
by DavidPayne
He has an amateur win over John L. Sullivan.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 05:22
by overhand_right
He won a 6-round MD over a Raptor.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 05:24
by DavidPayne
On the seventh day, God sat down to a rerun of Hopkins v Mercudo II

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 05:26
by MightyWarrior
overhand_right wrote:
Hagler2002 wrote:
TheGoods wrote:Kessler is at least on Hopkins' level.
How on earth have you come to this conclusion :o
Un frickin believable remark.

Hopkins has boxed since the dawn of time.
Experience aside, Kessler is not far off Hopkins in overall ability. We're not talking Sugar Ray Leonard here.
Would Hop be a big favorite over Kessler? Doubt it.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 12:31
by Spud
Bloody Hell - someone has suggested the draw to me seen as I have the fight on a very very close split decision.

Ladbrokes offering 18/1 for the draw!!!

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 12:35
by Rocky Balboa
Asterix wrote:Hopkins shouldn't be nicknamed "The Executioner", he should be "The Hugger". -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawi5ueyiI4

I'm sticking to my Calzaghe KO 10 prediction. I know it's crazy, but I've never been called sane.
I've checked the odds for a Calzaghe KO 10, & they are 33-1. Worth a punt or not for a bit of interest?

I, like a few others, have changed mind a few times on this one, more so in the last week or two.

I still cannot decide, & I know it's a bit cowardly maybe, but I'm gonna have to sit on the fence with this one! Sorry guys!

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 12:39
by Spud
Rocky Balboa wrote:
Asterix wrote:Hopkins shouldn't be nicknamed "The Executioner", he should be "The Hugger". -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawi5ueyiI4

I'm sticking to my Calzaghe KO 10 prediction. I know it's crazy, but I've never been called sane.
I've checked the odds for a Calzaghe KO 10, & they are 33-1. Worth a punt or not for a bit of interest?

I, like a few others, have changed mind a few times on this one, more so in the last week or two.

I still cannot decide, & I know it's a bit cowardly maybe, but I'm gonna have to sit on the fence with this one! Sorry guys!
Go for the draw then - I am starting to sway towards it - but will stick with Hopkins on a SD

Even more so now -

American Ref and all 3 American Judges!!!

Joe Cortez - Ref
Ted Gimza
Adelaide Byrd
Chuck Giampa

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 13:29
by TheGoods
I genuinely believe Kessler is at least on Hopkins' level these days, technically at least. Easy to dismiss the Dane after his loss to Calzaghe. He's the goods don't worry about that and will clean up now at 168 IMO. OK doesn't have the experience, reputation or mouth of 'B-Hop' but am telling you he's technically as good. Ask Calzaghe how good Kessler is. I have and he rates him by far and away as the best he has ever fought.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 13:38
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
I predict:

1. Calazage will throw more but Hopkins will land the cleaner more effective blows. This will make the rounds hard to score
2. Hopkins will probably give the first few rounds away
3. It will be 7-5 or 8-4 either way depending on your preferance (quantity or quality)
4. Calazage will throw less than usual after Hopkins lays traps counters and makes Joe more cautious to throw
5. Calazage will be hit more cleanly than all his other fights and miss more than any of his previous fights

All that been said I predict a close decision to Joe as BHOPs despite everythingbe too inactive due to his age

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 13:38
by dj moonmonkey
Got £30 on any knockdown at 5/2. So I'm just hopin it's a good fight with plenty of solid shots being landed.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 14:27
by Asterix
Rocky Balboa wrote:
Asterix wrote:Hopkins shouldn't be nicknamed "The Executioner", he should be "The Hugger". -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawi5ueyiI4

I'm sticking to my Calzaghe KO 10 prediction. I know it's crazy, but I've never been called sane.
I've checked the odds for a Calzaghe KO 10, & they are 33-1. Worth a punt or not for a bit of interest?

I, like a few others, have changed mind a few times on this one, more so in the last week or two.

I still cannot decide, & I know it's a bit cowardly maybe, but I'm gonna have to sit on the fence with this one! Sorry guys!
I'm not confident enough. As I said, it's a crazy prediction.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 14:55
by BigGar
DavidPayne wrote:He has an amateur win over John L. Sullivan.
Didn't BHop KO Jack Johnson in sparring also?

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 15:03
by m1kee50
I hope with all this BS of Hopkins retiring fighters, like Taylor (err no, that was Pavliks job), Tarver (still rocking) we dont get a load of bollocks when Calzaghe retires about "i finished Calzaghe"


if he does, i may have to shoot him.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 15:09
by rooney
I love Joe Calzaghe...he's truly genuine, not like another light welter british fighter we all know.

I don't think Joe will stop Bernard, bu think he will win a close points decision.

I think Joe will take some heavy right hand counters from Bernard, who will then proceed to jump on Joe and try to outmuscle him with less than gentlmanly techniques

All in all though, Joe's high punch rate will win him the fight but I think
Joe will learn a hell of a lot from this crafty veteran, who may even cut Joe.

I'm definietly expecting Hopkins to pull off some stunt at tonights weigh in..

Come on Joe. and f*ck off Hatton!

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 15:12
by WildWaylon
Spud wrote:
Rocky Balboa wrote:
Asterix wrote:Hopkins shouldn't be nicknamed "The Executioner", he should be "The Hugger". -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uawi5ueyiI4

I'm sticking to my Calzaghe KO 10 prediction. I know it's crazy, but I've never been called sane.
I've checked the odds for a Calzaghe KO 10, & they are 33-1. Worth a punt or not for a bit of interest?

I, like a few others, have changed mind a few times on this one, more so in the last week or two.

I still cannot decide, & I know it's a bit cowardly maybe, but I'm gonna have to sit on the fence with this one! Sorry guys!
Go for the draw then - I am starting to sway towards it - but will stick with Hopkins on a SD

Even more so now -

American Ref and all 3 American Judges!!!

Joe Cortez - Ref
Ted Gimza
Adelaide Byrd
Chuck Giampa
Calzaghe will have to win the rounds, any rounds that are even would likely be given to Hopkins. Joe will have to shine and put in his best ever effort. He will get no favours.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 16:00
by tonyevs
The talk has been "he`s never fought anyboby like me .. etc" from each camp :roll:

I can`t help making the comparison of the Eubank Joe fought to the Hopkins he`ll face tomorrow.

Both may have/had an edge in experience . .and both dangerous with the right hand as Joe comes in??

If an inexperienced Calzaghe could avoid it then .. I see the wiser Calzaghe of today doing the same ..

I see an easy night for Joe .. can`t remember being this sure about any big-fight before :TU:

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 18:19
by Spud
The more people I have spoke to today the more they are swaying!!!

Bloody hell never thought I would but getting excited over this fight.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 18:23
by realboy
Calzaghe wins by decision.

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 18:24
by el_grande_mauro_mina
I hope Calzghe wins... Not because I'm a huge fan of his but because if he loses - we will have six million posts on here calling Calazghe a fraud, a bottler and a coward if he doesn't face Carl Froch in six months time! :TU:

Posted: 18 Apr 2008, 18:35
by jamesmcdonnell
When this was first announced I was totally uninspired and thought Calzaghe was copping out by taking this fight, but Bernard is such a good fight builder, and carries such an aura with him, that somehow I'm stoked and cannot wait to watch it.

Calzaghe 116-112, 116-112, 110-117

I've just got a feeling one judge is going to give this to Bernard.