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Spud wrote:

People make me laugh!!! - all too quick to yet again make things personal with me - but yet I am not allowed the right to reply - double standards spring to mind!!!

Again I would like to emphasise and perhaps to a point agree with "Observer" - He states or insuate that I have got personal towards Khan as I am "paly" with Oliver Harrison - he is completely correct there is no point me avoiding that issue. What would you do if someone was very good to you and you found out from an entirely neutral source that someone you regarded very highly had in your opinion been right royally shafted!!!

I really wanted Amir Khan to do well - yep for the sake of the sport the likes of Khan doing well would give it an even bigger lift - but Oliver Harrison has not got a bad bone in his body and I have no problems in stating I regard him highly and as such you are dam right it rapidly changes my view on wanting Amir Khan to do well.

Tell me something Forum - lets get controversial now - If Amir Khan loves the UK so much and all the b*llocks thus far in his career is not just empty propaganda and he loves the UK so much - why does he have to turn to another country to find a trainer to get him where he wants - its him that has turned on the patriotism tap to get the fans and media on side - now suddenly the UK and its trainers may not be good enough for Amir!!! - why not Amir??

Absolute, illogical, harmful, inflamatory nonsense.

Khan isn't pretending to be British to court favour with fans - HE IS BRITISH!

Fck me. What a load of codswallop. You really ought to sense-check your provocative, stupid posts before you click SUBMIT.

Harrison has been dumped, probably unjustly and almost certainly in a shabby manner but you cannot leap from that to xenophobia and implied racism Spud.

Fkking crackers. Whether its in bold or not.

That was an absolute rediculous statement by Mr Potato- I just hope its a windup.

From a complete and utter outsider's viewpoint... I don't think Khan has quite developed the way I predicted he would. He certainly has defensive flaws that have yet to have been ironed out, and the way he leaps in his attacks is asking for trouble also.

Yes, he might have dumped him badly - I DON'T KNOW - And personally, I don't think anyone else knows regardless of how "neutral" the source is. However, this is not a Naseem Hamed / Brendan Ingle scenerio. Harrison didn't train Amir since the age of 9, and he didn't train him to the standard in which many people deemed him unbeatable. Harrison trained a SENSATIONAL talent, 3 years ago... and really his improvement hasn't been that noticeable.

I don't think Khan has developed the way he should, now whether that is Harrison's fault or not is an ENTIRELY different matter, but obviously Khan feels it is - and its better to change now BEFORE stepping into world class, then to get exposed.... which many people think will happen the way Khan is currently fighting.

Spud wrote:

Is this your only reaction Spud or can you cobble together a sentence or two?

You always manage to write some complete chaff because you're a brown noser, then disappear.

....then come back crying. David and Stu have made good points.

Any thoughts?

Captain Hook wrote:

Spud wrote:

Is this your only reaction Spud or can you cobble together a sentence or two?

You always manage to write some complete chaff because you're a brown noser, then disappear.

....then come back crying. David and Stu have made good points.

Any thoughts?

he's an idiot, spud probably come out with the Usual BS

Spud wrote:To answer the question in the thread title:

I will laugh my b*llocks off!!!

In my opinion Team Khan should learn how to treat people properly - then perhaps they would gain the respect they think they already have and in my opinion take for granted!!!

I salute you, sir!

Oliver Harrison seemed to be a smashing bloke, not one to try to hog the limelight or take anything away from Amir. The way he has been treated yb team Khan is a disgrace.

If Khan goes to USA & treats people like that, then I think he's in for a rude awakening! Luckily for Khan, Harrison is forbidden from saying what he actually wants to say on Khan & the whole matter of being fired.

All this talk about Khan fighting for a world title, then we hear his next opponent is Michael Gomez. Luaghable!

If he loses, allegedly Warren will be gutted.

I know what Spud means with the currying favour with British fans. If any of you think Khan really gives a fornicate about representing Britain, then you're off your trolley.

Gray-Fox wrote:I know what Spud means with the currying favour with British fans. If any of you think Khan really gives a eff about representing Britain, then you're off your trolley.

Whether he does or doesn't... is it really important.

Nationality doesn't really matter for me, I appreciate good skills regardless of nationality. If Hatton fought DLH, now I am a big fan of Ricky seems like a good bloke to out on the town with and we share a similar sence of humour - but I have to say... I'd go to that fight, to watch the skills of DLH. Yeah, if Hatton pulled of an upset (and deserved to) - I wouldn't say "oh I am gutted"... but similarly I would feel the same if DLH won.

stujones wrote:

Gray-Fox wrote:I know what Spud means with the currying favour with British fans. If any of you think Khan really gives a eff about representing Britain, then you're off your trolley.

Whether he does or doesn't... is it really important.

Nationality doesn't really matter for me, I appreciate good skills regardless of nationality. If Hatton fought DLH, now I am a big fan of Ricky seems like a good bloke to out on the town with and we share a similar sence of humour - but I have to say... I'd go to that fight, to watch the skills of DLH. Yeah, if Hatton pulled of an upset (and deserved to) - I wouldn't say "oh I am gutted"... but similarly I would feel the same if DLH won.

Totally agree mate.

Gray-Fox wrote:I know what Spud means with the currying favour with British fans. If any of you think Khan really gives a eff about representing Britain, then you're off your trolley.

Why wouldn't he care about representing the UK when he has already done it in 2004 in the olympics and won a silver medal against tough opposition.

He was born here, raised here and wears the union flag on his shorts - what more do people want - come into the ring to the voice of Winston Churchill!

Spud is a complete and utter berk if we are to believe he really meant what he said in his last statment.

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

Gray-Fox wrote:I know what Spud means with the currying favour with British fans. If any of you think Khan really gives a eff about representing Britain, then you're off your trolley.

Why wouldn't he care about representing the UK when he has already done it in 2004 in the olympics and won a silver medal against tough opposition.

He was born here, raised here and wears the union flag on his shorts - what more do people want - come into the ring to the voice of Winston Churchill!

Spud is a complete and utter berk if we are to believe he really meant what he said in his last statment.

What I meant was, his supposed love for the country is nothing but a method of currying favour with British fans.

Gray-Fox wrote:What I meant was, his supposed love for the country is nothing but a method of currying favour with British fans.

I think you're only saying that because of his heritage. He represented Britain at the Olympics and if that isn't enough for you, you're crazy.

There's always a slight scent of racism.......Naz and Lennox were never quite British enough for some people either.

No coincidence that Naz, Lennox and Khan will be remembered as three of the best we've produced, though one is labelled a boring Canadian etc etc....

Gray-Fox wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

Gray-Fox wrote:I know what Spud means with the currying favour with British fans. If any of you think Khan really gives a eff about representing Britain, then you're off your trolley.

Why wouldn't he care about representing the UK when he has already done it in 2004 in the olympics and won a silver medal against tough opposition.

He was born here, raised here and wears the union flag on his shorts - what more do people want - come into the ring to the voice of Winston Churchill!

Spud is a complete and utter berk if we are to believe he really meant what he said in his last statment.

What I meant was, his supposed love for the country is nothing but a method of currying favour with British fans.

Quite a statement! What leads you to this conclusion?

Ever since Khan got back from the Olympics people on this site have been wanting him to lose. Very strange. Then a few had to admit they were wrong when his progress and improvements became a little more apparent. He's a young lad with lots of ambition. He shows respect in interviews and yes, he believes he can beat the best, which is good! This is boxing and confidence is everything. There are many boxers who go further than KHan's stance and denegrate other fighters without good reason - look at Bernard Hopkins. Khan has talent, speed, growing power, enthusiasm. So I really cannot agree with the various criticisms on this site, other than those levelled at his manager's occasional choice of opponent. He does need stretching a little more. But on balance, I think Warren has provided him with a good platform for him to improve and grow. The big fights will come, but he is still learning.

As for getting rid of Harrison, well good on him if he feels there is a coach out there who can bring something new to his skills set. There is no harm in changing trainer as long as the new trainer is a good one, someone who has perhaps more scope for development than the previous one. We'll have to wait and see...

Spud wrote:Post Edited

Tell me something Forum - lets get controversial now - If Amir Khan loves the UK so much and all the b*llocks thus far in his career is not just empty propaganda and he loves the UK so much - why does he have to turn to another country to find a trainer to get him where he wants - its him that has turned on the patriotism tap to get the fans and media on side - now suddenly the UK and its trainers may not be good enough for Amir!!! - why not Amir??

Spud - it is nothing to do with 'political correctness' you are just talking out of your arse and using Khans religion and racial origins to score a point on behalf of your mate. Now listen, if Hatton had changed his trainer to someone from another country you would not question his birthright or his nationality - why is that when Hatton and Khan are both born within 10 miles of each other and were both brought up in this country.

Secondly - as a mixed race man who was brought up in the 1970s - I remember when racist twats had carte blanche to say whatever they wanted - and now - there are laws to stop loud mouthed morons from spewing filth! If you want to call that political correctness and see it as a sad day for 'freedom of speech' then I personally don't give a shit - because life is now better than it ever was - Khan is born here, raised here and has represented his country - how dare you question his loyalty? Who are you to do this, you f*cking dinasour?

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

Spud wrote:Post Edited

Tell me something Forum - lets get controversial now - If Amir Khan loves the UK so much and all the b*llocks thus far in his career is not just empty propaganda and he loves the UK so much - why does he have to turn to another country to find a trainer to get him where he wants - its him that has turned on the patriotism tap to get the fans and media on side - now suddenly the UK and its trainers may not be good enough for Amir!!! - why not Amir??

Spud - it is nothing to do with 'political correctness' you are just talking out of your arse and using Khans religion and racial origins to score a point on behalf of your mate. Now listen, if Hatton had changed his trainer to someone from another country you would not question his birthright or his nationality - why is that when Hatton and Khan are both born within 10 miles of each other and were both brought up in this country.

Secondly - as a mixed race man who was brought up in the 1970s - I remember when racist twats had carte blanche to say whatever they wanted - and now - there are laws to stop loud mouthed morons from spewing filth! If you want to call that political correctness and see it as a sad day for 'freedom of speech' then I personally don't give a shit - Khan is born here, raised here and has represented his country - how dare you question his loyalty? Who are you to do this?

Carlos - I am not a racist and never have been - plain and simple - no matter what I write on here it gets disected and I have finally had enough - something has got to be done.

To accuse me of such things leads me to only one conclusion that there are a number of posters who will stop at nothing in their relentless pursuit of causing trouble for me and my family.

Pathetic mindless bollocks - I love boxing and always will do - many boxers that I have grown to call pals are of different religiions and colour and I find it disgusting some of the posters on here who will stop at nothing in their mindless pursuit.

Very sad.

Spud wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

Spud wrote:Post Edited

Tell me something Forum - lets get controversial now - If Amir Khan loves the UK so much and all the b*llocks thus far in his career is not just empty propaganda and he loves the UK so much - why does he have to turn to another country to find a trainer to get him where he wants - its him that has turned on the patriotism tap to get the fans and media on side - now suddenly the UK and its trainers may not be good enough for Amir!!! - why not Amir??

Spud - it is nothing to do with 'political correctness' you are just talking out of your arse and using Khans religion and racial origins to score a point on behalf of your mate. Now listen, if Hatton had changed his trainer to someone from another country you would not question his birthright or his nationality - why is that when Hatton and Khan are both born within 10 miles of each other and were both brought up in this country.

Secondly - as a mixed race man who was brought up in the 1970s - I remember when racist twats had carte blanche to say whatever they wanted - and now - there are laws to stop loud mouthed morons from spewing filth! If you want to call that political correctness and see it as a sad day for 'freedom of speech' then I personally don't give a shit - Khan is born here, raised here and has represented his country - how dare you question his loyalty? Who are you to do this?

Carlos - I am not a racist and never have been - plain and simple - no matter what I write on here it gets disected and I have finally had enough - something has got to be done.

Spud - tell me which way the post below can be dissected?

Tell me something Forum - lets get controversial now - If Amir Khan loves the UK so much and all the b*llocks thus far in his career is not just empty propaganda and he loves the UK so much - why does he have to turn to another country to find a trainer to get him where he wants - its him that has turned on the patriotism tap to get the fans and media on side - now suddenly the UK and its trainers may not be good enough for Amir!!! - why not Amir??

You have courted contreversty and now you have got it - just explain what you meant? That is all anyone is asking.

Carlos -B*llocks!!!

Whatever I write there are people out there even if they were to agree because of their dislike for me - they will come on here and slag it off.

I am extremely sad and upset that I have been called a racist - I can hack most accusations but this thread really is sh*t.

The same old posters - the same old pursuit of me and like I say - there are some who no matter what I write will stop at nothing.
Here's a little revelation for you - I was approached by a Regimental Sergeant Major in the last couple of weeks of a certain camp to attempt to invite some professional boxers to a major army charity boxing dinner evening - one of the very first boxers who was thought of by me was Amir Khan and it was me who made an approach - that is despite having numerous contacts and other boxers indicating in the past they would gladly come to such an event!!! 4 of them being world or ex world champions!!!

If the truth be known - once I heard how Oliver Harrison had been treated I informed that particular Regimental Sergeant Major that I would not be involved in the event if Amir Khan still came because a person who I regard as a friend had in my opinion not been treated in the way I liked - FACT!!!!

The only thing I can be accused of and it being fact is that I am highly upset and angered the way I feel Oliver Harrison has been treated!!!

Carlos - whilst you and others stop at nothing in your pursuit of me - some of the shameful comments on this and other forums concerning Lennox Lewis and his supposed sexual orientation and indeed what country he showed allegience to were absolutely shameful - but because I have chose to stick up for a person (Oliver Harrison) - you and others choose to jump on things and twist things.

I will repeat yet again I am not a racist.

Anyhow off on a long holiday.

Spud wrote:Carlos -B*llocks!!!

Whatever I write there are people out there even if they were to agree because of their dislike for me - they will come on here and slag it off.

I am extremely sad and upset that I have been called a racist - I can hack most accusations but this thread really is sh*t.

The same old posters - the same old pursuit of me and like I say - there are some who no matter what I write will stop at nothing.
Here's a little revelation for you - I was approached by a Regimental Sergeant Major in the last couple of weeks of a certain camp to attempt to invite some professional boxers to a major army charity boxing dinner evening - one of the very first boxers who was thought of by me was Amir Khan and it was me who made an approach - that is despite having numerous contacts and other boxers indicating in the past they would gladly come to such an event!!! 4 of them being world or ex world champions!!!

The only thing I can be accused of and it being fact is that I am highly upset and angered the way I feel Oliver Harrison has been treated!!!

Flippin' heck have you ever thought about politics Spud? You are an evasive bastard aren't ya?

You made a statement which if I was Khan would find highly libellous and without any merit whatsoever. I don't think ahyone has called you a racist, I personally don't think you are racist but what you have written was thoughtless and has no merit, the fact you won't exapnd on what you meant only compounds any accusations thrown at you.

I'm sure Khan has treated Harrison badly, but he won't be the first or the last boxer to get rid of a trainer and go stateside or to Germany, big deal!
I don't see why Khans patriotism (a pricklier subject for him than it would be for other fighters for obvious reasons) has to be questioned?

He is 10 times more patriotic to the flag and this country than me and I'm half British heratige wise!

mick t wrote:

Spud wrote:Carlos - whilst you and others stop at nothing in your pursuit of me - some of the shameful comments on this and other forums concerning Lennox Lewis and his supposed sexual orientation and indeed what country he showed allegience to were absolutely shameful - but because I have chose to stick up for a person (Oliver Harrison) - you and others choose to jump on things and twist things.

I will repeat yet again I am not a racist.

Anyhow off on a long holiday.

spud leaves yet another boxing forum how long for this time?2 weeks max i reckon.Ah if only you could edit everyones posts like in the old days eh lad?

It is like the old days mate - I think we will see a re-emergence of 'Albert'

How are you keeping these days Mick?

If you and others - in particular Team Khan are saying my comments are thoughtless and with no merit then I have no other option but to profoundly apologise -

I am now in a world I simply do not understand and actually do not want to:

Its okay for me to be called a paedo etc etc etc - comments no matter what I have done which caused great upset and anger in my family - where was my apology - the endless threads of abuse and dam right out of order personal attacks on me - on this forum - in the past would have been enough to land anyone in hot water.

But yet it is me who is humble enough to apologise and mean it for comments if they are taken out of order or out of context.

Carlos - f*ck me in the past I actually enjoyed these forums and even in the days of Mr W arren or other personalities writing letters here and there - still came back.

Carlos - on this occasion and finally you have my word - I will not be coming back.

Moderators - please feel free to ban my username and please feel free to check and verify IP addresses whenever you wish.

Spud wrote: Anyhow off on a long holiday.

Where are you off to Spud, Las Vegas? Atlantic City? Monte Carlo? or Grove Leisure Centre Newark?

Spud wrote:If you and others - in particular Team Khan are saying my comments are thoughtless and with no merit then I have no other option but to profoundly apologise -

I am now in a world I simply do not understand and actually do not want to:

Its okay for me to be called a paedo etc etc etc - comments no matter what I have done which caused great upset and anger in my family - where was my apology - the endless threads of abuse and dam right out of order personal attacks on me - on this forum - in the past would have been enough to land anyone in hot water.

But yet it is me who is humble enough to apologise and mean it for comments if they are taken out of order or out of context.

Carlos - f*ck me in the past I actually enjoyed these forums and even in the days of Mr W arren or other personalities writing letters here and there - still came back.

Carlos - on this occasion and finally you have my word - I will not be coming back.

Moderators - please feel free to ban my username and please feel free to check and verify IP addresses whenever you wish.

Spud - everybody and I mean everybody condemmed the 'paedo' comments or I did anyway and I also condemmed the video of you get walloped off Paul King - I thought it was outrageous!

But you have been the sinner (as well as being sinned against - I agree and have wrote to you to say so) and you said on that post 'lets say something contreversial'

I - think you would be good for this forum if you stuck around - but if you say something stupid then be prepared for the flak or back up what you say!

mick t wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

mick t wrote:spud leaves yet another boxing forum how long for this time?2 weeks max i reckon.Ah if only you could edit everyones posts like in the old days eh lad?

It is like the old days mate - I think we will see a re-emergence of 'Albert'

How are you keeping these days Mick?

I'm okay mate same old shit.I see you finally made it to south korea.whats it like over there mate?babbys yeds any good?

Those fuckers refused to pay me and I had to get home though I'm going back next month!

Its a great place mate but the babbys yeds are a bit shit! The dog
jiggae isn't too bad - it tastes like rabbit!

So Spud, you stick up for Harrison by Insulting Amir khan?

Behave, you're acting like a 5 year old.