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kid_thunder wrote:the funny thing is when i was pounding him i said welcome to professenel boxing bitch

The Irish Assassin wrote:

kid_thunder wrote:the funny thing is when i was pounding him i said welcome to professenel boxing bitch

That is awesome, maybe next time he will think twice before acting like a punk.

mattyp151 wrote:

Alabama_Man wrote:

Raff The Frenchman wrote: Oh year the shot wasn't hard and Byrd was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xogW6sWv ... re=related

Let's see, how long did it take Byrd to get up? About 3 seconds. Yeah you just made yourself look ridiculous.

How fast did Judah get up?

Getting up is a reaction, very instinctual. If Byrd was with it, he stays down until 6 or 7 and gets a rest on the canvas.

Byrd was torqued by Ibeabuchi.

abosworth wrote:

The Irish Assassin wrote:

kid_thunder wrote:the funny thing is when i was pounding him i said welcome to professenel boxing bitch

That is awesome, maybe next time he will think twice before acting like a punk.

Wishful thinking. But I think Zelenoff was a bit humbled by this beatdown.

Any plans to fight soon Thunder?

Alabama_Man wrote:

Raff The Frenchman wrote:

Alabama_Man wrote: Thank you. A lot of these guys simply don't know much about boxing. shot wasn't even that hard, just quick and fast.

Oh year the shot wasn't hard and Byrd was fine...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xogW6sWv ... re=related

Let's see, how long did it take Byrd to get up? About 3 seconds. Yeah you just made yourself look ridiculous.

Raff The Frenchman wrote:

Alabama_Man wrote:Charles Brewer - Antwon Echols
Andy Lee - Brian Vera
Chris Byrd - Ike Ibeabuchi

Byrd was stopped too soon vs Ibeabuchi??? did you really watch the fight? Byrd was all over the place he was so wobbly his eyes were not even upright and he had saliva streaming from his mouth. the shot with which Ike caught him was so huge you could hear it loud thru TV !

kid_thunder wrote:im suppose to fight burks june 14th in oklahoma you know what you got heart meant that it dose take alot heart to step into a ring bleave or not he didnt stand there and let me beat on him hell he did get once but he couldnt handle that i took his right hand away that was what charlie wanted to use sooo bad

Knucklez wrote:I always thought the ref jumped in too quick in the Emile Griffith/Benny Paret fight.

raylawpc wrote:I hate to criticize referees, particularly when the closest I was to the action was my TV screen, but an early stoppage that always comes to mind for me is Art Hernandez' stoppage of Ali-Lyle.

BoxBuzz wrote:

raylawpc wrote:I hate to criticize referees, particularly when the closest I was to the action was my TV screen, but an early stoppage that always comes to mind for me is Art Hernandez' stoppage of Ali-Lyle.

ray, honestly that was Lyle's fault....he was not defending. "Defend yourself at all times" I'm good with the argument that Lyle could take it, but a ref has to see you "in the game" so to speak. I just watched that again and for my way of thinking Lyle had a responsibility to show the ref he was still in the game..... but I don't think the ref could tell that. When you pull that you always run the risk of giving the ref the wrong idea.

Did he have the option of giving him a standing 8? I don't think so but if he did that would have been just as bad a call I guess.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:"ray, honestly that was Lyle's fault....he was not defending. "Defend yourself at all times" I'm good with the argument that Lyle could take it, but a ref has to see you "in the game" so to speak. I just watched that again and for my way of thinking Lyle had a responsibility to show the ref he was still in the game..... but I don't think the ref could tell that. When you pull that you always run the risk of giving the ref the wrong idea.

Did he have the option of giving him a standing 8? I don't think so but if he did that would have been just as bad a call I guess." - Buzz

Even some of Ali's staunchest supporters on this board, including those who argue the stoppage was just, have in fact admitted if the situations were reversed, the ref would not have stopped the bout. We all know why.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:Not directly, no. However, it can impact on his reign (see dubious decisions, for example). You can't say, "Well, this is Ali's fault," because, simply, it isn't. However, it's not Fighter A's fault if he beats Fighter B who was once great, but was washed-up when Fighter A defeated him. Doesn't mean it doesn't take away from him, though, & if you think that's unfair to Ali, it's still a better deal than Lyle & co. got.

BoxBuzz wrote:

raylawpc wrote:I hate to criticize referees, particularly when the closest I was to the action was my TV screen, but an early stoppage that always comes to mind for me is Art Hernandez' stoppage of Ali-Lyle.

ray, honestly that was Lyle's fault....he was not defending. "Defend yourself at all times" I'm good with the argument that Lyle could take it, but a ref has to see you "in the game" so to speak. I just watched that again and for my way of thinking Lyle had a responsibility to show the ref he was still in the game..... but I don't think the ref could tell that. When you pull that you always run the risk of giving the ref the wrong idea.

Did he have the option of giving him a standing 8? I don't think so but if he did that would have been just as bad a call I guess.

dempseyfire wrote:

Raff The Frenchman wrote:

Alabama_Man wrote:Charles Brewer - Antwon Echols
Andy Lee - Brian Vera
Chris Byrd - Ike Ibeabuchi

Byrd was stopped too soon vs Ibeabuchi??? did you really watch the fight? Byrd was all over the place he was so wobbly his eyes were not even upright and he had saliva streaming from his mouth. the shot with which Ike caught him was so huge you could hear it loud thru TV !

I don't have a huge problem with that stoppage as Byrd was taking some big shots but you are greatly exageratting. The saliva doesn't really mean anything any hit to the mouth can make you spit out a little, and he wasn't wobbly at all when the ref stopped it.

Larry Merchant's commentary was sickening . . .his clear hatred of Byrd was so unprofessional it made me want to puke. He was similarly disgusting during the Oscar fight for decrying Forbes for his "lack of offense" despite his very high punch output. For a guy who's never been in the ring in his life, he often asks for bloodbaths to keep himself entertained.

VoiceOnTV wrote:God I wish I remember which fight it was now, but I remember Chavez once sorta stopping a fight himself. The ref stepped in to separate the fighters and Chavez sorta assumed the fight was over and jumped on a corner to celebrate. The ref, seemingly confused, then went ahead and waved it off. Julio was ahead, but it didn't seem like TKO time.

Flump wrote:

VoiceOnTV wrote:God I wish I remember which fight it was now, but I remember Chavez once sorta stopping a fight himself. The ref stepped in to separate the fighters and Chavez sorta assumed the fight was over and jumped on a corner to celebrate. The ref, seemingly confused, then went ahead and waved it off. Julio was ahead, but it didn't seem like TKO time.

That was vs Terrence Alli and Carlos Padilla was the ref. That was embarrasingly weak refereeing and Alli just stood there with a what the fu..? look on his face.

VoiceOnTV wrote:

Flump wrote:

VoiceOnTV wrote:God I wish I remember which fight it was now, but I remember Chavez once sorta stopping a fight himself. The ref stepped in to separate the fighters and Chavez sorta assumed the fight was over and jumped on a corner to celebrate. The ref, seemingly confused, then went ahead and waved it off. Julio was ahead, but it didn't seem like TKO time.

That was vs Terrence Alli and Carlos Padilla was the ref. That was embarrasingly weak refereeing and Alli just stood there with a what the fu..? look on his face.

Thanks for reminding me! I think it's the only time I've seen a fighter know the fight was over before the ref did. I do remember seeing Larry Holmes beggin a ref to stop a fight (might've been Frazer's kid but again I don't remember too well). I never (until that night) saw a ref stop a fight because somebody was celebrating. Terrence wasn't going to win, but was hardly in trouble and deserved the chance to at least finish.