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Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:25
by whicker
JCB123 wrote:
.... On a side note, what a fight Moran v Wallace was!!!!!!!

Just a pity only 5 people watched it, if Ricky's football fans we not singin songs drinkin Stella & watched it they might have learned somethin!!!
I agree with that totally. People paying sometimes 100s of Pounds for a ticket still "have better things to do" than watch the undercard.

That fight alone- Wallace V Moran- could have been a good bill-topper on a small hall show.

Even Matt Hatton's fight wasn't watched by many- the ground wasn't half full when it started.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:26
by HughJohnson
DG. wrote:Hello to the Hatton huggers!




As someone said there will only be easy fights from now on.



.

But, as usual with Hatton, its gonna be someoe who ticks some of these boxes.




2) No Power
3) Inactive
4) Past their best
5) No threat
6) Opponent has 20% chance of winning.


The con continues!


:D

Looks like Junior next for Hatton then??

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:36
by DG.
HughJohnson wrote:
DG. wrote:Hello to the Hatton huggers!




As someone said there will only be easy fights from now on.



.

But, as usual with Hatton, its gonna be someoe who ticks some of these boxes.




2) No Power
3) Inactive
4) Past their best
5) No threat
6) Opponent has 20% chance of winning.


The con continues!


:D

Looks like Junior next for Hatton then??


If Lazcano can almost get Hatton out of there in the 10th, HATTON stays away from Witter forever, forever ever?, Forever ever!


:lol:

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:46
by thepocketrocket
"Almost got hatton out of there" Are you on drugs? Hatton was slightly stunned and wanted to hold, he then regained his senses and beat Lazcano up for another 7-8 minutes!!!!

Jesus Christ!!!

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:49
by DG.
thepocketrocket wrote:"Almost got hatton out of there" Are you on drugs? Hatton was slightly stunned and wanted to hold, he then regained his senses and beat Lazcano up for another 7-8 minutes!!!!

Jesus Christ!!!

Slightly stunned?

Stumbling and holding on, slightly stunned?

The 8th was a bad round too.

:lol:

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:54
by EddieShredder
Didn't end up on his arse, like Junior though did he?

I also noticed he threw a fair few punches... something your friend Junior might like to consider doing, if he wants to get back in the mix :TU:

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 07:58
by banjo
I think it's a shame he spent his best years fighting the likes of Bailey, Rowsell, Smith, Hutchinson, Rios etc.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:00
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
banjo wrote:I think it's a shame he spent his best years fighting the likes of Bailey, Rowsell, Smith, Hutchinson, Rios etc.
Were those his best years or did he just look better against lower level opponents

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:00
by DG.
EddieShredder wrote:Didn't end up on his arse, like Junior though did he?

I also noticed he threw a fair few punches... something your friend Junior might like to consider doing, if he wants to get back in the mix :TU:

If Hatton was fighting Bradley, he would have been!
Pound for pound or not, I would rather finish the fight on my feet than on my arse!

Junior got back up and finished the fight.
Hatton did not.

Lazcano is not the fighter he was, even you know that.

Handpicked Vs Mandatory

Hatton does not fight tough fighters.

Even PBF was thought to be a soft puncher.

Remember Hattons speech?

'I hope he hit me harder than he hits those fcuking pads'

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3404508

Looks lke he did!



:lol:

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:04
by Max Molyneux
EddieShredder wrote:Didn't end up on his arse, like Junior though did he?

I also noticed he threw a fair few punches... something your friend Junior might like to consider doing, if he wants to get back in the mix :TU:
Didn't bounced Into the corner post like Ricky though.

Witter's going for the European to get back In the mix.

Imagine if that was Junior's left hook Instead of Lazcano's.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:05
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Hatton is at the stage of his career Barry McGuigan was when he fought with Fwank. He may beat
decent fighters but he is also vunerable to being beaten himself - Maggilani will be up for any proposed
fight against Hatton - So he didn't look all that good against a man he schooled the last time - but I think
Maggiliani will beat Hatton because Hatton is at the end of the road.

Who thought Jim McDonnell would have beaten McGuigan? That's how it will happen, it will be sudden.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:06
by EddieShredder
I wonder what you're like in person DG? Is it actually possible to have a conversation with you?

:D

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:10
by banjo
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
banjo wrote:I think it's a shame he spent his best years fighting the likes of Bailey, Rowsell, Smith, Hutchinson, Rios etc.
Were those his best years or did he just look better against lower level opponents
The wins over Rowland, Pendleton and Magee should have set up fights with Urkal, Ward and Corley which would have either made him or broke him at that point in his career. They are the sort of fights that you learn something from, you don't learn anything by mowing down blown up lightweights.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:12
by DG.
EddieShredder wrote:I wonder what you're like in person DG? Is it actually possible to have a conversation with you?

:D
No.

:lol:

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:15
by DG.
banjo wrote:
Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote:
banjo wrote:I think it's a shame he spent his best years fighting the likes of Bailey, Rowsell, Smith, Hutchinson, Rios etc.
Were those his best years or did he just look better against lower level opponents
The wins over Rowland, Pendleton and Magee should have set up fights with Urkal, Ward and Corley which would have either made him or broke him at that point in his career. They are the sort of fights that you learn something from, you don't learn anything by mowing down blown up lightweights.

Hatton was offered the Corley fight ( World Title shot as Hatton was the mandatory) he avoided it.

Hatton was offered the Urkal fight, he avoided it.

We all know why.

:D

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:23
by banjo
Well DG, if thats true then it shows that Ricky had no confidence in himself. Most people would jump at the chance to take on proven fighters like Corley and Urkal, so what if you get beaten, losing happens in any sport. It's how defeat affects you mentally that matters not the actual losing.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:27
by HughJohnson
DG. wrote:
EddieShredder wrote:Didn't end up on his arse, like Junior though did he?

I also noticed he threw a fair few punches... something your friend Junior might like to consider doing, if he wants to get back in the mix :TU:

If Hatton was fighting Bradley, he would have been!
Pound for pound or not, I would rather finish the fight on my feet than on my arse!

Junior got back up and finished the fight.
Hatton did not.

Lazcano is not the fighter he was, even you know that.

Handpicked Vs Mandatory

Hatton does not fight tough fighters.

Even PBF was thought to be a soft puncher.

Remember Hattons speech?

'I hope he hit me harder than he hits those fcuking pads'

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3404508

Looks lke he did!



:lol:

Hatton doesnt fight tough fighters...your off your skull
Tackie, Laczano, Urango, Mausa, Tzysu, Oliviera, Mayweather, Collazo.
All tough mofo`s, tell me frucking different and I`ll call you a liar.

All those guys i mentiond are all tougher than Witter. Junior is scared to ingage in a proper fight we saw that against Decent but average punching Bradley, as soon as he lunges in looking for a oneshotKO he ties up quicker than Hattons shoelaces...lame, really lame.

Comparing Hatton getting stopped from an alltime great(in a foriegn country) and Witter getting floored and soundly beaten from and unheard of novice.. They both got beat end of...but if you want to get beat of the no-one..you go girl.

And Witter only fought his mandatory because His light punching hand picked opponent pulled out.

Before both Hatton and Witters most recent outings...who would you of said was the better fighter? Lacano or Bradley????????:??:???>?>?>?>??>?>?>?>@>@>:>?>:>Yeah thought so.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:31
by HughJohnson
DG. wrote:
Hatton was offered the Corley fight ( World Title shot as Hatton was the mandatory) he avoided it.

Hatton was offered the Urkal fight, he avoided it.

We all know why.

:D

The best fighter on Witters resume ran a million miles when ask to fight Hatton in his prime aswell not the shot version Witter fluked through.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:34
by DG.
banjo wrote:Well DG, if thats true then it shows that Ricky had no confidence in himself. Most people would jump at the chance to take on proven fighters like Corley and Urkal, so what if you get beaten, losing happens in any sport. It's how defeat affects you mentally that matters not the actual losing.

Its a long interview but Corley mentions it.

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/boxing-ne ... erview.php

EL: What is next for you after defeating Randall Bailey?

DC: We are back in the gym training right now getting ready for whomever they want me to fight next. My mandatory is Ricky Hatton and he does not want to fight me and he is set to square off against Vince Phillips. We will see which fighter is at number two and find out if they want to take the fight. Right now I don't care who I fight. I just want to defend my title.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:42
by DG.
HughJohnson wrote:
DG. wrote:
EddieShredder wrote:Didn't end up on his arse, like Junior though did he?

I also noticed he threw a fair few punches... something your friend Junior might like to consider doing, if he wants to get back in the mix :TU:

If Hatton was fighting Bradley, he would have been!
Pound for pound or not, I would rather finish the fight on my feet than on my arse!

Junior got back up and finished the fight.
Hatton did not.

Lazcano is not the fighter he was, even you know that.

Handpicked Vs Mandatory

Hatton does not fight tough fighters.

Even PBF was thought to be a soft puncher.

Remember Hattons speech?

'I hope he hit me harder than he hits those fcuking pads'

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3404508

Looks lke he did!



:lol:

Hatton doesnt fight tough fighters...your off your skull
Tackie, Laczano, Urango, Mausa, Tzysu, Oliviera, Mayweather, Collazo.
All tough mofo`s, tell me frucking different and I`ll call you a liar.

All those guys i mentiond are all tougher than Witter. Junior is scared to ingage in a proper fight we saw that against Decent but average punching Bradley, as soon as he lunges in looking for a oneshotKO he ties up quicker than Hattons shoelaces...lame, really lame.

Comparing Hatton getting stopped from an alltime great(in a foriegn country) and Witter getting floored and soundly beaten from and unheard of novice.. They both got beat end of...but if you want to get beat of the no-one..you go girl.

And Witter only fought his mandatory because His light punching hand picked opponent pulled out.

Before both Hatton and Witters most recent outings...who would you of said was the better fighter? Lacano or Bradley????????:??:???>?>?>?>??>?>?>?>@>@>:>?>:>Yeah thought so.

You don't follow boxing, do you?


After Witters and Hatton RECENT OUTINGS who is the better fighter?

Lazcano or Bradley?
Lazcano was never going to win. You twit.

Hattons opponents?

Tackie, Loses all the big ones, no boxing skill at all.
Laczano, Years past his peak, inactive, coming off a loss, career light weight
Urango,limited - no boxing skills
Mausa, No boxing skills AT ALL!
Tzysu, Past his prime - the only real RISK Hatton thought he was taking
Oliviera, Past his prime

Mayweather, BEAT HIS ARSE LIKE A DOG DESPITE BEING A SMALLER FIGHTER.

Collazo.Paper Champ, Hatton did not beat him, SSM showed the difference between a paper chamo and a top fighter.

Witter has more guts than Hatton. Hatton has more money and fame, ut ass a fighter, Hattons a hand picked opponent type of fighter.

On last night s showng, Haton is finished once he fights a top fighter.

PM will beat him and he was crap last night. N'dou will beat Hatton.

:lol:

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 08:53
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
HughJohnson wrote: Before both Hatton and Witters most recent outings...who would you of said was the better fighter? Lacano or Bradley????????:??:???>?>?>?>??>?>?>?>@>@>:>?>:>Yeah thought so.
Bradley won every round against the man who beat Lazcanno, so Bradley (think his name is Gazanco or something), Lazzy officially got an SD but it was a gift SD

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 09:07
by banjo
What people need to remember is that Lazcano was a top LIGHTWEIGHT contender 4 years ago. What has he done since losing to Castillo besides losing to sissy Viv?

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 09:17
by Max Molyneux
If Paulie were to win, he would have to use his handspeed and footwork to his advantage and work on counter hooks mostly. He seems to be a bit negative and would probably get outworked.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 09:21
by DG.
I think Hattons lack of power and his inability to change tactics now means he is a sitting duck for a decent fighter who can counter punch with power.

I think Hatton has 1 fight left in him and he is beaten by PM id he steps to him.

The Hatton of last night is a beating waiting to happen.

Re: Admit it.

Posted: 25 May 2008, 09:23
by Max Molyneux
Floyd doesn't have power and stopped him, good accuracy and speed should be enough.