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Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 11:17
by Autobarn
DG. wrote:jackthehat wrote:i think this DG. fella doesnt like Hatton very much, he lives on here pulling him down all day everyday. If Hatton boxes like he did the other night Bradley might beat him, but if the Hatton from old turns up he would probably knock Bradley out, Bradley was nothing special dont get carried away DG. he was good but was just a good technical boxer who stuck to his game plan against Witter who was never really world class anyway lets face it. Cotto would smash Hatton up but Cotto is a welterweight, how do you think Hatton would go on against Bernard Hopkins then DG.?
Well, Hatton weighs more than B-Hop put of the ring so its a fair contest!
Cotto is a Welter? so?
Hatton thinks nothing of lining up or fighting former flyweights ( Pacman) - Lightweights Diaz - Lazcano - pederson - Smith - Pep etc etc.
As B-Hop said ' To be great - you must do great things'
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Hopkins did 2 great things - holding onto the middleweight title and beating Trinidad. Trinidad would lead to a bit of a trend in that Hopkins beats smaller guys at the highest level. Greatness or great handicapping, making sure you fight smaller men?
Hatton beating Tszyu was a great achievement - Tszyu was easily as good as Hopkins. OK Ricky's career hasn't gone how many ppl wanted it to, but he's looking to fight another title holder - hardly amazing, but adequate and - as they say - "it makes sense."
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 11:28
by Horse
hitman_hatton1 wrote:hatton will fight malignaggi next.
despite the last 2 fights not being good he's still arguably the top contender at 140 right now.
He might "arguably" be the top contender, but in reality he is below Torres and Bradley.
I can't believe people are happy with this fight. What is it with Hatton and that stupid IBF title?
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 11:32
by DG.
Terry D wrote:Bradley is not particularly good. Junior was terrible on the night. It took him nearly 8-rounds to land his left hand despite Bradley getting hit loads with that shot in previous fights against middling opposition.
Has DG lost his marbles this weekend or something?
T. Diddly.
After watching Hatton on Saturday, I have a feeling Bradley is too much for him.
Hattons strength advantage will not be there and neither will the speed and power...not even the stamina!
Hatton is on the way out, Bradley is on the way up, Bradley admittedly beat an out of sorts Witter, a crap Witter that sufaces from time to time, but something tells me Bradley can and will improve, Hattom peaked 2/3 years ago.
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Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 11:37
by DG.
Autobarn wrote:DG. wrote:jackthehat wrote:i think this DG. fella doesnt like Hatton very much, he lives on here pulling him down all day everyday. If Hatton boxes like he did the other night Bradley might beat him, but if the Hatton from old turns up he would probably knock Bradley out, Bradley was nothing special dont get carried away DG. he was good but was just a good technical boxer who stuck to his game plan against Witter who was never really world class anyway lets face it. Cotto would smash Hatton up but Cotto is a welterweight, how do you think Hatton would go on against Bernard Hopkins then DG.?
Well, Hatton weighs more than B-Hop put of the ring so its a fair contest!
Cotto is a Welter? so?
Hatton thinks nothing of lining up or fighting former flyweights ( Pacman) - Lightweights Diaz - Lazcano - pederson - Smith - Pep etc etc.
As B-Hop said ' To be great - you must do great things'
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Hopkins did 2 great things - holding onto the middleweight title and beating Trinidad. Trinidad would lead to a bit of a trend in that Hopkins beats smaller guys at the highest level. Greatness or great handicapping, making sure you fight smaller men?
Hatton beating Tszyu was a great achievement - Tszyu was easily as good as Hopkins. OK Ricky's career hasn't gone how many ppl wanted it to, but he's looking to fight another title holder - hardly amazing, but adequate and - as they say - "it makes sense."
I never said B-Hop was great. KT as good as B-Hop when Hatton fought him? ?
I think not.
Hopkins has never been battered and is still one of the most effective fighters even today despite being boring!
Hopkins fighting smaller men is as bad or WORSE than Hatton. In fact, its worse.
Until boxing gets a real league table that means a fights b - the sports going down.
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 12:01
by DG.
Terry D wrote:I still have DeeGiggles address so I'll send him some marbles ASAP

Steady on Diddly!
The 3 Gimps ( Goz, HJ and Asterix) would pay a high price for my address!
Do not give in - no matter how much they offer!
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Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 12:05
by Max Molyneux
He should fight Andrew Kid Thunder Hartley, when uncle festers collide.

Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 12:13
by Autobarn
Hatton is massively successful, has held a genuine world title and he could well become one of the two premiere promoters in the UK. I have a feeling his career in promoting is going to last well beyond his own fights. In boxing, you don't make the best $$ for the best fights anymore, and Hatton has made more money than anyone in this country since Lennox Lewis. It doesn't mean the sport's going down the toilet - it just means that the guys that are in the epic fights are working harder for less pay. Money talks and if you could make the best money for the least risk, you would like anyone.
Ricky's career isn't compelling anymore but he has gone the way that makes the most money, building a home fan base, fighting WBU level fights which pay more than the domestic & Euro titles, facing the modern great at the right time, being able to work the crowd after hard fights, milking the various alphabet titles and then cashing it in with Mayweather/lengthy press tour/reality TV series.
If he wants to fill up stadiums and fight in NY, if these are his dreams who are we to mock it all? He's not going into the Hall of Fame for his fighting accomplishments, but he's been a good fighter and gave British boxing one of its great nights vs Tszyu. Hatton fights are an event, and DG's bitching cannot change that.
Hopkins could very well have an "off night" or look jaded or out of sorts if he fought in his opponent's backyard, if he fought on the terms of his opponent, rather than his own.
Bernard should have been booed out of boxing and blackballed by the networks after the Taylor fights & the Wright maul, because he's just spoiling on the run, not really trying to win bouts. He's been carried by Golden Boy who could put Mickey Mouse in a fight on HBO.
Bernard has no qualms fighting smaller men, DG, so perhaps Hatton should start? Casa, Marquez, Pacquiao are great names so why not come into big fights with a serious advantage?
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 26 May 2008, 12:53
by DG.
hitman_hatton1 wrote:hatton unified 2 of the titles in the division.
and was promptly stripped.
if that's the reward he's getting out of it then u can't really blame him for picking and choosing who he's gonna fight.
it's not as if there has been a clear challenger emerge at 140 like say mikkel kessler did at 168.
What???
Give me strength!

Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 07:16
by DIRT SUGAR
Hatton's still top of the light-welterweight stakes IMO until someone beats him at the weight and what I meant is how anyone thinks Bradley or Witter not so much beat Hatton, as walk through him as if he's some face-first pug is ridiculous.
Hatton would be pumped up and would murder Witter, who peaked vs Ndou and was blowing out of his butt at the end of that fight and Bradley beat a faded Witter who had a dreadful night against a solid but unspectacular challenger.
Calling Hatton fringe-world class is a joke. He's a genuine world champion and still a top-10 light-welter and the man to beat in the 10st division.
I never thought Hatton would beat Mayweather but if anyone thinks he got a fair shake off Joe Cortez on the night is having a laugh. Mayweather was allowed to totall neutralise Ricky with his forearm all night. He fought like one of the 300 against De La Hoya and Hatton. Holding his left arm out as if he was holding a shield and clubbing with his right as if holding a sword. Like all great fighters, he got away with it (much like Ali using his left hand to pull fighters' heads down).
I just think Hatton deserves some respect because he's taken on and beaten some good, solid opposition here and overseas and coming up short against Mayweather was nothing to be embarrassed about, even if I did think he'd give PBF a tougher night's work.
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 07:32
by Dioufy
Paulie, Torres and then Mayweather at 140lbs at Wembley - I can dream I s'pose.
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 12:08
by DG.
boxrec wrote:Alfonso Gomez
That would be a good fight!
But Gomez would win despite what Cotto did to him.
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 14:43
by DG.
Terry D wrote:DG. wrote:boxrec wrote:Alfonso Gomez
That would be a good fight!
But Gomez would win despite what Cotto did to him.
Is there anyone you think Hatton can beat? If a strand went up asking if the guy could beat Juan Lazcano you would be on there saying no, no, no!

Gomez is too big and rough for Hatton
Bradley too hungry for Hatton.
I doubt Hatton cn beat any of the top 10 at Welter ( I do not think he beat Collazo).
Hatton can beat Maussa - Lynes and Bami.
He can beat this version of Lazcano!
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Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 18:36
by HughJohnson
DIRT SUGAR wrote:Hatton's still top of the light-welterweight stakes IMO until someone beats him at the weight and what I meant is how anyone thinks Bradley or Witter not so much beat Hatton, as walk through him as if he's some face-first pug is ridiculous.
Hatton would be pumped up and would murder Witter, who peaked vs Ndou and was blowing out of his butt at the end of that fight and Bradley beat a faded Witter who had a dreadful night against a solid but unspectacular challenger.
Calling Hatton fringe-world class is a joke. He's a genuine world champion and still a top-10 light-welter and the man to beat in the 10st division.
I never thought Hatton would beat Mayweather but if anyone thinks he got a fair shake off Joe Cortez on the night is having a laugh. Mayweather was allowed to totall neutralise Ricky with his forearm all night. He fought like one of the 300 against De La Hoya and Hatton. Holding his left arm out as if he was holding a shield and clubbing with his right as if holding a sword. Like all great fighters, he got away with it (much like Ali using his left hand to pull fighters' heads down).
I just think Hatton deserves some respect because he's taken on and beaten some good, solid opposition here and overseas and coming up short against Mayweather was nothing to be embarrassed about, even if I did think he'd give PBF a tougher night's work.
At last!!!!! The cold light of common sence has shone upon this muddy motly crue.
It will probly be ignored, but i think you hit it spot on SUGAR

Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 18:50
by observer1
Hatton is just another British Hyped Fighter.
I'm pretty sure he wont even be able to beat Oscar. a Rematch With Mayweather will see the Same Result as Last Time.
If Hatton wants to be a Goat, I guess only way that is going to happen is if he Fights Malignaggi where the Traditional Hatton Fans will call him a Legend,

Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 18:52
by DG.
observer1 wrote:Hatton is just another British Hyped Fighter.
I'm pretty sure he wont even be able to beat Oscar. a Rematch With Mayweather will see the Same Result as Last Time.
If Hatton wants to be a Goat, I guess only way that is going to happen is if he Fights Malignaggi where the Traditional Hatton Fans will call him a Legend,


Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:04
by Coco
DIRT SUGAR wrote:Hatton's still top of the light-welterweight stakes IMO until someone beats him at the weight and what I meant is how anyone thinks Bradley or Witter not so much beat Hatton, as walk through him as if he's some face-first pug is ridiculous.
Hatton would be pumped up and would murder Witter, who peaked vs Ndou and was blowing out of his butt at the end of that fight and Bradley beat a faded Witter who had a dreadful night against a solid but unspectacular challenger.
Calling Hatton fringe-world class is a joke. He's a genuine world champion and still a top-10 light-welter and the man to beat in the 10st division.
I never thought Hatton would beat Mayweather but if anyone thinks he got a fair shake off Joe Cortez on the night is having a laugh. Mayweather was allowed to totall neutralise Ricky with his forearm all night. He fought like one of the 300 against De La Hoya and Hatton. Holding his left arm out as if he was holding a shield and clubbing with his right as if holding a sword. Like all great fighters, he got away with it (much like Ali using his left hand to pull fighters' heads down).
I just think Hatton deserves some respect because he's taken on and beaten some good, solid opposition here and overseas and coming up short against Mayweather was nothing to be embarrassed about, even if I did think he'd give PBF a tougher night's work.
About right mate
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:17
by DG.
Coco wrote:DIRT SUGAR wrote:Hatton's still top of the light-welterweight stakes IMO until someone beats him at the weight and what I meant is how anyone thinks Bradley or Witter not so much beat Hatton, as walk through him as if he's some face-first pug is ridiculous.
Hatton would be pumped up and would murder Witter, who peaked vs Ndou and was blowing out of his butt at the end of that fight and Bradley beat a faded Witter who had a dreadful night against a solid but unspectacular challenger.
Calling Hatton fringe-world class is a joke. He's a genuine world champion and still a top-10 light-welter and the man to beat in the 10st division.
I never thought Hatton would beat Mayweather but if anyone thinks he got a fair shake off Joe Cortez on the night is having a laugh. Mayweather was allowed to totall neutralise Ricky with his forearm all night. He fought like one of the 300 against De La Hoya and Hatton. Holding his left arm out as if he was holding a shield and clubbing with his right as if holding a sword. Like all great fighters, he got away with it (much like Ali using his left hand to pull fighters' heads down).
I just think Hatton deserves some respect because he's taken on and beaten some good, solid opposition here and overseas and coming up short against Mayweather was nothing to be embarrassed about, even if I did think he'd give PBF a tougher night's work.
About right mate
Let it go guys.
Hatton was never in PBF league.
Life and death with Collazo does not prepare you for Mayweather.
Hatton is a dirty fighter.
Making room for his punches with his head up close.
Pulling fighters arms down with his gloves and head.
Holding way more than is allowed.
Numerous low blows,
He was just schooled and shown what life is like at the elite level, he had never been there before.
KT was not 'elite' when Hatton fought him, KT is like Vitali, allowed to keep his belt/position due to past glories.
Even if Dave Parrish(?) or Mickey Van was the ref for PBF, Hatton would still have been destroyed even quicker.
PBF barely got out of 1st gear - he opened up maybe 3 times and Hatton was done!

Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:19
by banjo
Hey DG have you been drinking?

Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:20
by DG.
banjo wrote:Hey DG have you been drinking?

Orange juice!
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Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:25
by banjo
DG. wrote:banjo wrote:Hey DG have you been drinking?

Orange juice!
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Come over to the post whoring thread in other sports etc.
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 27 May 2008, 19:40
by DG.
banjo wrote:DG. wrote:banjo wrote:Hey DG have you been drinking?

Orange juice!
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Come over to the post whoring thread in other sports etc.
I think that place is great!
I just ripped Asterix - Goz and HJ a new one, whats best is that I can not see their replies because they are blocked!
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Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 28 May 2008, 08:05
by Peter Hick
I think Ricky should fight Antonio Margarito next :)
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 28 May 2008, 13:53
by HughJohnson
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I think that place is great!
I just ripped Asterix - Goz and HJ a new one, whats best is that I can not see their replies because they are blocked!
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You didnt rip nothing, you contridicted yourself than ran away like a little spoilt bitch, spouting some crap about how you would gladly kick my teeth in....biggest laugh ive had in ages, little tart to scared even to read my posts never mind ATTEMPT to kick my teeth in.
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 28 May 2008, 15:57
by Grilling Machine
A Mayweather rematch won't happen at 140, because Ricky would lose on two counts rather than one. (What weight does the Hatton-Mayorga contest occur at then?!)
Speaking of which: when was Toney vs. Williams cancelled?
Re: Who should Hatton fight next?
Posted: 28 May 2008, 16:08
by Horse
Grilling Machine wrote:A Mayweather rematch won't happen at 140, because Ricky would lose on two counts rather than one.
What do you mean?