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Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 16 Jun 2008, 13:38
by funso banjo baby
all your points are grossly inaccurate

Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 16 Jun 2008, 17:00
by WildWaylon
Harrison has proved he isnt the boxer we thought he might be. He has proved he isnt the best in Britain so the chances of him winning a World title are nil. I am amazed he is still getting a chance to fight on the top of the bill when he isnt worthy. Quite honestly I hope Rogan gives him such a pasting he is left with nowhere to go. Rogan has guts and a big heart which should see him through. Skills are important obviously but you have to be brave and have the right attitude which is what Harrison lacks. Just imagine Mayweather with all the skills he has, if he was afraid to be hit and had Harrisons general attitude. He certainly wouldnt have an unbeaten record and would most likely have lost to Hatton. Champions are brave warriors, they dont all have great skills but they do have the determination to win. Rogan wins it for me and if he does I just hope A-Farce gets on his bike and rides off into the sunset never to be heard of again.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 16 Jun 2008, 18:55
by WildWaylon
boxrec wrote:I agree that Audley isn't as good as he thinks he is, but this should be an easy win for him. He struggles against the top british fighters, not the lower ones.
Rogan has proved he can come through a tough competition and beat the favourite. I agree none of the fighters were at British level but neither is Harrison. He cant beat an on form Danny Williams, got KOd by Sprotty and heaven help him if he went against Matt Skelton. Rogan is a tough man with huge pride and desire like Big Matt, and although he doesnt have Matts size he has enough power I think to topple Harrison. Cant see Rogan taking this fight just because its a good earner.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 16 Jun 2008, 19:08
by jameswilson
WildWaylon wrote:boxrec wrote:I agree that Audley isn't as good as he thinks he is, but this should be an easy win for him. He struggles against the top british fighters, not the lower ones.
Rogan has proved he can come through a tough competition and beat the favourite. I agree none of the fighters were at British level but neither is Harrison. He cant beat an on form Danny Williams, got KOd by Sprotty and heaven help him if he went against Matt Skelton. Rogan is a tough man with huge pride and desire like Big Matt, and although he doesnt have Matts size he has enough power I think to topple Harrison. Cant see Rogan taking this fight just because its a good earner.
It's all well and good just looking at results tho, its hardly like Audley took an absolute beating against Sprott, he was ahead on the scorecards and got whacked out because he forgot his defence, he will have learned that lesson the hard way I feel. Audley took shots against Dominick Guinn and didn't get knocked down, so it's hardly like every time he gets hit he falls flat on his face.
People can bring the heart thing up and Im sure Rogan is extremely determined, but I struggle to see what massive barriers he has overcome in the ring as a pro. In my opinion he hasn't been in massive wars where he has had to dig deep for 10 rounds and show massive heart (not saying Audley has either before anyone goes too mad.) While Rogan will be training and trying a lot harder I dont see how he will KO Audley if he can't KO Paul King.
Like I say anyone who wants to try to take 500quid off this thick Audley supporter is welcome to wager with me, I have ultimate respect for Mr Rogan however Im supremely confident for this fight.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 16 Jun 2008, 19:11
by jameswilson
Also Iv never seen anyone ask this, but does anyone here have any idea about how much (more or less) each guy will be earning for this. Are we talking 50k plus for either fighter and does the winning fighter get more than if he loses?
I know the chances of anyone knowing this are zero but does anyone have any kind of idea what the domestic heavies earn?
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 16 Jun 2008, 19:57
by el_grande_mauro_mina
Rogan stands no chance at all. He has never gone 8 rounds never mind 10. Rogan may stand
something of a chance in another 5-10 fights time but he is getting this fight on the back of
prizefighter - Does anyone really think Harrison wouldn't have walked prizefighter?
What will happen is that Harrison will stick his jab into Rogans big face, busting him up and stopping
him inside 4 rounds. It won't be close or have drama to it - the fight doesn't do Harrison any good as
when he beats up Rogan he will be seen as boxings equivalent to Lord Flashman.

Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 04:53
by funso banjo baby
disagree
i think butlin...rogan and dolan would have beaten aforce in prizefighter
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 05:07
by Asterix
I think Harrison would have walked Prizefighter, too.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 05:09
by josh fg
Yeh he would have cut a swave throuhg prize fighter and not neccessarily in the conventional way of KOing everyone he could have jabbed all there head off and still not been tired.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 15:46
by Goz
It is hard to judge the 2 fighters because despite Harrison's failure of a pro career he has been operating a level or two above Rogan.
My heart says Rogan might give him an argument, my head says Harrison easily.
I think Rogan might have enough to rough Audley up for 1-2 entertaining rounds before Harrison pulls something out to stop him in 3-4. I'll quite look forward to it though!
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 16:42
by Coco
While Audley has very much disappointed as a pro, and has a dodgy chin and stamina, don't forget how talented he is, and he is a massive bastard 2
Look what he did to Williams in their second fight
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 17 Jun 2008, 17:26
by WildWaylon
fatcity69 wrote:search wrote:Rogan is gonna get clubbed to the canvas here.
Audley is 1000x more skilled.
1000x ?????... I think not... youre really overrating Audes skill level... his defence is often weak, especially on the inside and he often uses his jab as just a slap or as a means to tryonhg to keep his opponent away from him... the truth is that even skills wise Audely isnt close to world class...
I use the expession pawing where AH is concerned. A bit like a cat trying to warn off another with its paw just prior to a fight. He does have decent skills, he wouldnt have got the Olympic gong if he hadnt. He just lacks guts and determination, elements essential to winning fights and of course titles.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 03:33
by ra2006
From Audley on his website:
Yo fight fans,
I was hoping to confirm Samuel Peter and I was on. Unfortunately, after tense negotiations with team Peter we were unable to agree; they wanted much more money to fight me. Funny thing is they were happy to fight Skelton for less money, but to fight me, well, it was a different story. What does that tell you? The guy they love to hate, is still viewed as a threat.
So we have to move on, but I'm hopeful talks will resume later on this year. If Vitali does not come back this year, then it is possible the money Frank offered will become appealing as his mandatory won’t be until next year.
Anyway, we have to move on and keep busy, so Martin Rogan and I will clash. He is unbeaten and talking a good fight, which bodes well for the fans and viewers. I expect him to be fit and keen but my class and ability will make the difference and I won't be taking him lightly, so expect a vintage performance.
I'm training hard and looking forward to boxing to the UK again and I look forward to seeing some familiar faces in crowd.
A Force
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 07:00
by stujones
So why isn't Skelton vs Peter on Mr Warren?
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 07:15
by nickd
ra2006 wrote:From Audley on his website:
Yo fight fans,
I was hoping to confirm Samuel Peter and I was on. Unfortunately, after tense negotiations with team Peter we were unable to agree; they wanted much more money to fight me. Funny thing is they were happy to fight Skelton for less money, but to fight me, well, it was a different story. What does that tell you? The guy they love to hate, is still viewed as a threat.
So we have to move on, but I'm hopeful talks will resume later on this year. If Vitali does not come back this year, then it is possible the money Frank offered will become appealing as his mandatory won’t be until next year.
Anyway, we have to move on and keep busy, so Martin Rogan and I will clash. He is unbeaten and talking a good fight, which bodes well for the fans and viewers. I expect him to be fit and keen but my class and ability will make the difference and I won't be taking him lightly, so expect a vintage performance.
I'm training hard and looking forward to boxing to the UK again and I look forward to seeing some familiar faces in crowd.
A Force
Vintage performance?
Seriously how many impressive performances has he delivered in his career 1 or 2? He talks like he's some sort of all time great.
The dellusion continues.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 07:16
by Scrap
James Wilson interesting sparring partner hes got.
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Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 07:17
by Ted
ra2006 wrote:...so expect a vintage performance.
so that will be 2 punches per round, tiring towards rd 6-8 and then getting KO'd?
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 18 Jun 2008, 12:39
by overhand_right
A 37 year old 10 fight clubfighter?
Stop dreaming guys, Audley will flatten this guy easily.
Rogan will realise quickly hes totally out of his depth.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 03:33
by Deserter
overhand_right wrote:A 37 year old 10 fight clubfighter?
Stop dreaming guys, Audley will flatten this guy easily.
Rogan will realise quickly hes totally out of his depth.
Hate to say it, as I'd love nothing more than to see Rogan spark Fraudley, but this is right on the money. We've got a habit in cases like this of hearts ruling heads. I can see Rogan possibly lasting the distance, purely because Fraudley seems increasingly 'gun-shy', but a far more likely is that Harrison uses his superior boxing skills over the first few rounds until Rogan's pace drops and he starts to soak up punishment, leading to a stoppage around the fifth or sixth.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 11:06
by WildWaylon
Rogan will try to land one and as usual AH will back off afraid of being hit. If it goes all the way AH will get the decision having landed enough clean shots on the retreat. AH could get a stoppage win but I cant see him getting a KO. Could be a better fight than we think. OK age, and just 10 fights, it looks just one way but I dont think it will be. I think Rogan will put in the fight of his life.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 13:23
by oliverfennell
WildWaylon wrote:Rogan will try to land one and as usual AH will back off afraid of being hit. If it goes all the way AH will get the decision having landed enough clean shots on the retreat. AH could get a stoppage win but I cant see him getting a KO. Could be a better fight than we think. OK age, and just 10 fights, it looks just one way but I dont think it will be. I think Rogan will put in the fight of his life.
Rogan's no better than Dominic Negus, and even an old but experienced Audley is better than the novice Audley who handled Negus fairly easily.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 14:05
by WildWaylon
Are we going to see it, ITV havent allowed much time. Then again if the fights go as predicted on here, we should see both.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 14:13
by funso banjo baby
what do u think Rogan would have done to Jason Barnett ?
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 19 Jun 2008, 14:36
by jameswilson
funso banjo baby wrote:what do u think Rogan would have done to Jason Barnett ?
He would have beaten him. But you can hardly predict a crushing win, Rogan is hardly a knockout artist.
Re: audley harrison v martin rogan
Posted: 20 Jun 2008, 04:57
by funso banjo baby
Rogan is still a novice
and hes already been in a lot deeper than harrison at this stage