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BAMBI wrote:I wonder how it will affect Enzo calzags? All of the fighters he trains are with Warren, which comes to my conclusion that Joe and Fwank have parted ways on a mutual understanding.

Shirow wrote:According to one of the articles online the 'issues' with Warren involved disputes over monies owed from the Hopkins fight. If that's true i don't see them working together at all for the farewell fight.

Terry D wrote:Joe does not owe allegedly. Yes the guy made some good fights for him but he also put his career on the backburner to build Hatton up at Joe's expense. Joe's real fights came after Hatton jumped ship.

I imagine SN will take this with class and extend Joe warm heartfelt good luck messages via the national press. After all the Kessler win was allegedly's happiest moment in boxing.

HMP BOXER wrote:too little too late,joe should have left him years ago.he would have been involved in many superfights & meaningfull fights if he had done so.what does he hope to achìeve now on his own that warren cant do for him? maybe warren was trying to get the pavlik fight for him and maybe daddy enzo, after being there when lockett got smashed said NO SIR THANK YOU. i mean come on whats a fight with roy jones going to prove,infact it will prove not much just like the hopkins fight.jones hasnt exactly been active of late either

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tony3 wrote:I agree. Jones, as incredible as he was in his halcyon years is now a faded-hero. That isn't just the fact either, it's also the general perception of his current standing.

Conversely Pavlik is the rising star and collectively his and Calzaghe's stock may be the highest in the pro ranks. I refuse to believe that this contest would be less lucrative that the touted Jones swansong.

One thing I will dispute is the risk involved in fighting Jones. Although RJ is years removed from his prime, he still has very fast hands and is a legitimately concussive puncher (carrying far more weight in his hands than Pavlik). Providing Jones doesn't go into a defensive shell and wait for an opening all night whilst Calzaghe outworks him, there's a greater chance than most people think of Joe's 0 being snatched away inside of the sceduled 12 rounds.

To be honest I think this whole legacy thing is a redundent issue because whatever the fans say; Calzaghe is a virtual lock for the hall of fame and whichever of the two matches Joe selects, each is laden with it's own set of hazards, but for him to infer that Pavlik has less commercial potential than RJ at this point is bordering on absurd IMO.

I think its absurd to say its bordering on absurd. Pavlik's not exactly a household name. He's still got a lot more fighting to do. Fighting Jones is more iconic. Yes Jones is past his prime, but so is Joe, hence why we are talking about his final fight. There are only about three years between them. And as many have mentioned, fighting Jones still has its dangers. Contrary to what some think, Jones is clearly not a completely shot fighter - he's not as good, but still dangerous and has retained speed. So I think a fight with Jones is satifactory on two levels, firstly level of competition (though it is not as dangerous as fighting Pavlik) and secondly, due to the greater publicity it would draw. I also think Joe actually wants to fight Jones from a personal perspective, because of who Roy Jones is. So good for him I say.

As for splitting from Warren, he wants to generate a bigger percentage for himelf, and why not on his final fight against someone as iconic a Jones. I think it will be an amicable split.

DavidPayne wrote:For those worried about this fight not getting attendance. I'm reminded of my Dad, who had become a rare attendee at Nottingham Forest being compelled to go and see Sheffield Wednesday v Chelsea because...

"He wanted to see Ruud Gullit live while he could".

I think RJJ will generate similar affection from boxing fans, a chance to see a legend.